Parking 2013 Greatest Hits. June.

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As we work down to the end of the year we present four great parking pictures from each month.

June gave us:


1) Darrell had a real corker from Hobart Place:

bad parking

2) Matt discovered an unusual level of affirmative action in ACT Policing:

disabled parking

3) The Bus Driver found a real gem at Anzac Park West:

daewoo

4) Dilandau found that money maketh not the parker at the Belconnen Mall”

porsche

Stay tuned for the best of July tomorrow. Keep sending parking pictures in to images@the-riotact.com with the word “parking” in the subject line.

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c_c™ c_c™ 10:01 pm 06 Jan 14

c_c™ said :

Is it at all surprising the government doesn’t provide an efficient way of obtaining service for non-urgent issues, they can’t even do it for urgent issues. I recently found a public fixture leaking a large amount of water, rang ACTEW, who said ring the Government. Ring the Government, they say it’s a Federal fixture call the NCA. Ring the NCA, they finally send out their crack response team. Ideally the first people I rang would have had a procedure for passing on the report, rather than a citizen spending 20mins on the phone.

Erm, this of course was meant to be a reply to this thread: http://the-riotact.com/act-housing-maintenance-phone-number-not-working/122050

Perils of working in multiple tabs.

roshen roshen 9:43 pm 06 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Ironically, today I parked at work between two cars which were not middled in their spots, opened my VW Polo door, got caught in a gust of wind and smacked into the door of the neighbouring car.

There was no noticeable damage but it was a lovely shiny new car and Roshen must have been sitting on my shoulder, so I left a note.

I haven’t heard from the owner yet – will let you know if I do.

Total Respect!

IrishPete said :

See also post number 51. Wind. Unintentional. Shit happens.

IP

S*** does happen IP, but if everyone does what Queen_of_the_Bun did today wouldn’t the world be a better place to live in?

IrishPete IrishPete 8:23 pm 06 Jan 14

zorro29 said :

Well this got heated…

My 2 cents re a few comments (including from IP): People shouldn’t have to expect their car will be dented, scratched or even touched by others. I love my car and have always been very protective of it. If I pay a lot of money for an item and keep it in good condition, why is it reasonable that someone who has no respect for others can ding it? Not in my world…people need to learn respect for others (and their property) and responsibility.

Because you are leaving it in a public place exposed to the elements.

Of course you should be able to expect everyone to be responsible and to have good insurance with limited excess.

But then there’s the real world that you actually live in, in which you make compromises every day, every hour, possibly even every minute. Like locking your front door, Locking your car. Where I live I don’t have to – jealous?

See also post number 51. Wind. Unintentional. Shit happens.

IP

IrishPete IrishPete 8:17 pm 06 Jan 14

c_c™ said :

Is it at all surprising the government doesn’t provide an efficient way of obtaining service for non-urgent issues, they can’t even do it for urgent issues. I recently found a public fixture leaking a large amount of water, rang ACTEW, who said ring the Government. Ring the Government, they say it’s a Federal fixture call the NCA. Ring the NCA, they finally send out their crack response team. Ideally the first people I rang would have had a procedure for passing on the report, rather than a citizen spending 20mins on the phone.

A decent public servant will take the responsibility from you – get all the details from you, a number to call you back on, and say “thanks, I’ll take it from here”. That’s what I used to do when I was in a phone answering role, unless the issue was way out of my area (which was rare; people generally don’t phone a service at random).

c_c™ c_c™ 7:43 pm 06 Jan 14

Is it at all surprising the government doesn’t provide an efficient way of obtaining service for non-urgent issues, they can’t even do it for urgent issues. I recently found a public fixture leaking a large amount of water, rang ACTEW, who said ring the Government. Ring the Government, they say it’s a Federal fixture call the NCA. Ring the NCA, they finally send out their crack response team. Ideally the first people I rang would have had a procedure for passing on the report, rather than a citizen spending 20mins on the phone.

Queen_of_the_Bun Queen_of_the_Bun 7:34 pm 06 Jan 14

roshen said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

If that’s your idea of a personal attack, you may be too sensitive for the interwebs. However, if you found that offensive, I apologise.

I have been googling “property damage laws” but am yet to find anywhere that states that accidental damage from opening a car door constitutes a criminal offence. If it is that easy to google, perhaps you could provide me with a link.

Look I’m not sensitive and no offence was taken but lets just say I came back with another insinuating comment about the way you live your life, then I’d think the argument will tangent off to somewhere inappropriate. I’m just trying to keep the argument on topic that’s all.

Nothing is available on google that I can see that specifically deals with this type of property damage, but I’m pretty sure that since a car is someone’s property it should come under the general property damage laws.

Ironically, today I parked at work between two cars which were not middled in their spots, opened my VW Polo door, got caught in a gust of wind and smacked into the door of the neighbouring car.

There was no noticeable damage but it was a lovely shiny new car and Roshen must have been sitting on my shoulder, so I left a note.

I haven’t heard from the owner yet – will let you know if I do.

Clown Killer Clown Killer 1:38 pm 06 Jan 14

I’m assuming all this debate is in reference to the picture of the Porsche.

Just for the record, it’s not parked on a pedestrian crossing. Diagonal white stripes dont mean anything other than the car park owners hope that the area would be kept clear.

The park might be illegal if there are signs requiring drivers to ‘park in marked bays only’.

Seriously though guys, give it a rest – do you want this to become a Mully?

zorro29 zorro29 12:13 pm 06 Jan 14

Well this got heated…

My 2 cents re a few comments (including from IP): People shouldn’t have to expect their car will be dented, scratched or even touched by others. I love my car and have always been very protective of it. If I pay a lot of money for an item and keep it in good condition, why is it reasonable that someone who has no respect for others can ding it? Not in my world…people need to learn respect for others (and their property) and responsibility.

IrishPete IrishPete 10:02 am 06 Jan 14

Are you folks still going at it hammer and tongs?

Of course property damage is a criminal offence, but most crimes require some intent. So accidental damage probably wouldn’t come under it.

Leaving the scene of a traffic accident is an offence, I think, but whether opening a car door into another car would count, I don’t know. (Car door scratches and scrapes are probably the least annoying though – bumper scrapes and bullbar scrapes would be much more annoying and financially damaging).

But something doesn’t have to be criminalised to be wrong – civil action would always be an option, if you could identify the perpetrator. Dash cameras may increase the likelihood of this, though you would probably still have get a court order for the government to release the identify of the owner of a car based on its registration plate. It probably wouldn’t be worth the time, cost and effort for minor damage, but if people started doing it and others became generally aware that they might be chased by the owner of the damaged car, then the occurrence might reduce.

IP

roshen roshen 9:39 am 06 Jan 14

roshen said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Anecdotal evidence does not make facts.

Now please post a source of your claims of canberra car park apocalypse.

Cheers.

I know you’re big on “facts” but what are you trying to achieve here? I don’t think the argument is where you’re taking it.

But anyway, to answer your question I’ve found a few articles from insurance companies

AAMI: http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CEsQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aami.com.au%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Ffm%2Fnews%2FCarParks-TopSpotForAggressionAndBadManners.pdf&ei=H9zJUs67EKuXigfZiYH4DA&usg=AFQjCNEEwj6aNtccg_ZPGx8JE5zickl3_A&bvm=bv.58187178,d.dGI

This one’s from 2007 and say that in the ACT 81% of people do not provide details on car park damage.

Here are some others in different states.

http://www.suncorp.com.au/insurance/safer-roads/ninety-four-percent-drive-off-after-car-park-damage

http://www.nrma.com.au/honesty-not-policy-sydney-car-parks

http://www.sgio.com.au/wa/honesty-not-policy-wa-car-parks?sireq=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sgio.com.au%2Fwa%2Fhonesty-not-policy-wa-car-parks&simigvis=MS43OTguOTY3MzIyMzM5MjI1LjEzODg5NjEwNDQ1NjAuNjczMjZhZmM_*&sirefer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.au%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3D%26esrc%3Ds%26frm%3D1%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D3%26cad%3Drja%26ved%3D0CD8QFjAC%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.sgio.com.au%252Fwa%252Fhonesty-not-policy-wa-car-parks%26ei%3DH9zJUs67EKuXigfZiYH4DA%26usg%3DAFQjCNEAmvpBQ9L4OaqdG_SH29ZsqZlljA%26bvm%3Dbv.58187178%2Cd.dGI

I think the issue with car park damage is big as several major insurance companies have released articles on it and the problem is widespread across Australia.

roshen roshen 9:13 am 06 Jan 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Anecdotal evidence does not make facts.

Now please post a source of your claims of canberra car park apocalypse.

Cheers.

I know you’re big on “facts” but what are you trying to achieve here? I don’t think the argument is where you’re taking it.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 8:17 am 06 Jan 14

roshen said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

You are a bell end(not a personal attack because it is fact).

You are crying about being attacked because you have zero argument. You are trying to defend a grade a tea bag and have been called out on it.

You still have not provided me with actual sources that there is a wide spread problem of cars getting damaged in Canberra car parks

Firstly, how have I had a zero argument? I’ve been answering all questions and there’s no doubt in peoples mind that damage to other people’s cars happen. My argument has always been that I understand and have no issues with this happening because of the damage that is done. Again, I would like to stress that I was not defending that driver as you have put it, but saying that if I saw it in person, I would have no issues with it and I stand by that.

I’ve also responded to your previous question when I said I’m not an insurance company but you can tell from other people that have posted with either personal experience or friends that this happens regularly. I don’t think the question is whether or not it happens because it does, the argument is that I don’t mind it happening whereas other people here do.

And I beg to differ when you call me a “bell end” and I do take that as a personal attack because it’s unsubstantiated. Why? Because I’ve been polite (bar a few sarcastic comments), I’ve answered everything thoroughly and honestly, I’ve refrained from name calling and I’ve respected other opinions.

If I may quote you again in Parking 2013 Greatest Hits. May you mentioned

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Yeah damn straight. I am a advocate for it to be legal to key cars if tea bags who think because they have a flash car, they should park over lines so no one can park next to them. In the very least, get a bunch of peeps to park them in.

Then a few days later you said to me:

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Honestly has never happened to my good self.

I do like your logic though. Peeps are assholes so I’m gonna be a asshole aswell.

Stay classy, champ.

I’m not quite sure that you’re quite the benchmark when it comes to rating the personalities of other people but I’ve respected your views and answered all your questions.

But in return, I don’t think you have responded to the acknowledgments that I presented to you earlier.

Anecdotal evidence does not make facts.

Now please post a source of your claims of canberra car park apocalypse.

Cheers.

roshen roshen 2:51 pm 05 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

If that’s your idea of a personal attack, you may be too sensitive for the interwebs. However, if you found that offensive, I apologise.

I have been googling “property damage laws” but am yet to find anywhere that states that accidental damage from opening a car door constitutes a criminal offence. If it is that easy to google, perhaps you could provide me with a link.

Look I’m not sensitive and no offence was taken but lets just say I came back with another insinuating comment about the way you live your life, then I’d think the argument will tangent off to somewhere inappropriate. I’m just trying to keep the argument on topic that’s all.

Nothing is available on google that I can see that specifically deals with this type of property damage, but I’m pretty sure that since a car is someone’s property it should come under the general property damage laws.

roshen roshen 2:48 pm 05 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

http://www.covercraft-pacificshop.com/carcovers/custom_fit_comparison.html

Thanks, I never knew car covers were anymore protective than a plastic bag. Point taken.

roshen roshen 2:46 pm 05 Jan 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

You are a bell end(not a personal attack because it is fact).

You are crying about being attacked because you have zero argument. You are trying to defend a grade a tea bag and have been called out on it.

You still have not provided me with actual sources that there is a wide spread problem of cars getting damaged in Canberra car parks

Firstly, how have I had a zero argument? I’ve been answering all questions and there’s no doubt in peoples mind that damage to other people’s cars happen. My argument has always been that I understand and have no issues with this happening because of the damage that is done. Again, I would like to stress that I was not defending that driver as you have put it, but saying that if I saw it in person, I would have no issues with it and I stand by that.

I’ve also responded to your previous question when I said I’m not an insurance company but you can tell from other people that have posted with either personal experience or friends that this happens regularly. I don’t think the question is whether or not it happens because it does, the argument is that I don’t mind it happening whereas other people here do.

And I beg to differ when you call me a “bell end” and I do take that as a personal attack because it’s unsubstantiated. Why? Because I’ve been polite (bar a few sarcastic comments), I’ve answered everything thoroughly and honestly, I’ve refrained from name calling and I’ve respected other opinions.

If I may quote you again in Parking 2013 Greatest Hits. May you mentioned

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Yeah damn straight. I am a advocate for it to be legal to key cars if tea bags who think because they have a flash car, they should park over lines so no one can park next to them. In the very least, get a bunch of peeps to park them in.

Then a few days later you said to me:

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Honestly has never happened to my good self.

I do like your logic though. Peeps are assholes so I’m gonna be a asshole aswell.

Stay classy, champ.

I’m not quite sure that you’re quite the benchmark when it comes to rating the personalities of other people but I’ve respected your views and answered all your questions.

But in return, I don’t think you have responded to the acknowledgments that I presented to you earlier.

Queen_of_the_Bun Queen_of_the_Bun 2:32 pm 05 Jan 14

roshen said :

I know you want to have the last word – I can keep going until 5pm then I have a life to live….guess you’ll be going a lot longer than that.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Debates are great. When one person has to resort to claiming to being personally attacked because they can no longer come up with any arguments to defend their position, that’s pretty weak.

So can you tell me if your first comment was personal or not?

And how have used this as a replacement for my argument? I’ve stated this after stating my points.

And just one more point for you. Can you tell me what brand of car cover will withstand the force of door dings?

And if you google “property damage laws” you will find it coming up under the crimes ACT for different states.

If that’s your idea of a personal attack, you may be too sensitive for the interwebs. However, if you found that offensive, I apologise.

I have been googling “property damage laws” but am yet to find anywhere that states that accidental damage from opening a car door constitutes a criminal offence. If it is that easy to google, perhaps you could provide me with a link.

Queen_of_the_Bun Queen_of_the_Bun 2:09 pm 05 Jan 14

roshen said :

I know you want to have the last word – I can keep going until 5pm then I have a life to live….guess you’ll be going a lot longer than that.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Debates are great. When one person has to resort to claiming to being personally attacked because they can no longer come up with any arguments to defend their position, that’s pretty weak.

So can you tell me if your first comment was personal or not?

And how have used this as a replacement for my argument? I’ve stated this after stating my points.

And just one more point for you. Can you tell me what brand of car cover will withstand the force of door dings?

And if you google “property damage laws” you will find it coming up under the crimes ACT for different states.

http://www.covercraft-pacificshop.com/carcovers/custom_fit_comparison.html

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 1:19 pm 05 Jan 14

roshen said :

I know you want to have the last word – I can keep going until 5pm then I have a life to live….guess you’ll be going a lot longer than that.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Debates are great. When one person has to resort to claiming to being personally attacked because they can no longer come up with any arguments to defend their position, that’s pretty weak.

So can you tell me if your first comment was personal or not?

And how have used this as a replacement for my argument? I’ve stated this after stating my points.

And just one more point for you. Can you tell me what brand of car cover will withstand the force of door dings?

And if you google “property damage laws” you will find it coming up under the crimes ACT for different states.

You are a bell end(not a personal attack because it is fact).

You are crying about being attacked because you have zero argument. You are trying to defend a grade a tea bag and have been called out on it.

You still have not provided me with actual sources that there is a wide spread problem of cars getting damaged in Canberra car parks

roshen roshen 11:01 am 05 Jan 14

I know you want to have the last word – I can keep going until 5pm then I have a life to live….guess you’ll be going a lot longer than that.

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Debates are great. When one person has to resort to claiming to being personally attacked because they can no longer come up with any arguments to defend their position, that’s pretty weak.

So can you tell me if your first comment was personal or not?

And how have used this as a replacement for my argument? I’ve stated this after stating my points.

And just one more point for you. Can you tell me what brand of car cover will withstand the force of door dings?

And if you google “property damage laws” you will find it coming up under the crimes ACT for different states.

Queen_of_the_Bun Queen_of_the_Bun 9:13 am 05 Jan 14

roshen said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Ha, stuck at work for an hour longer than expected so:

Roshen, if you are not the driver, why do you take advice to the driver as being to you?

Also, why do you assume the driver is a him? Because women don’t drive Porsches? Because women don’t park on pedestrian crossings? Or because you know the driver personally?

As mentioned in my previous post, it would also be surprising that your “advice” was to that driver given that they probably haven’t read this post and your “advice was in direct response to mine.

And yes it was my mistake to say the driver was a male. I’m happy for you to keep on calling it a pedestrian crossing because that’s not the point. However, I’m just surprised by the attitude and level of attacks on people that have differing views. I’ve always kept my comments to the point and admitted where I’ve been wrong but it seems like the same level of respect isn’t always given.

Again, I’d appreciate a level headed argument but if you could please refrain from personal attacks or insinuations that would be much appreciated.

What personal attack? No-one on this site has attacked you, as far as I can tell. People have questioned your knowledge of the road rules and asked you to substantiate your claims of widespread criminal damage in car parks.

I have checked the road rules and cannot find a reference to opening your car door into another car as being a criminal offence.

My “advice” was to any driver who wants to protect their car from accidental damage in a car park. Why you read it as being about you is a matter for you.

Debates are great. When one person has to resort to claiming to being personally attacked because they can no longer come up with any arguments to defend their position, that’s pretty weak.

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