Medecins Sans Frontieres/Doctors Without Borders
Refugee Camp in your city = Canberra (specifically, Glebe Park)
Until 6pm Wednesday 24 September 2008.
Open for tours every 15 minutes, 9am to midday, then 2pm to 5pm.
Or wander through between midday and 2pm and read the placards and talk to MSF staff.
Information on MSF and refugees in general to take away BUT please note this is a “charity-mugger”-free zone.
They can’t accept cash donations due to security reasons.
WARNING: after visiting the camp, you may never post again on the RiotACT. All your piddling little concerns…. let me rephrase that. All my piddling little concerns now seem to pale into insignificance by comparison.
A harrowing and intensely emotional experience.
Suspend disbelief and go have a look. (Highly recommended for the ‘blow them out of the waters/push them back into the ocean’ brigade.)
I was just telling DJ Gosper of the Karismakatz that my first ever cheque for my business ($50 in 2003) I had to return to the client because they’d made it out to ‘Overhead Productions’ and my bank wouldn’t accept it.
Overhead!!
*guffaw*
No, the ‘h’ doesn’t stand for handler. You gots until 6am Saturday and then I pretty much turn into a pumpkin for best part of ten days. (Except to return for Monday night’s ‘Trivia in the Tra dies’ from 7pm in Dickson. Buy me a beer there and I’ll reveal the mystery word.
peterh, you’ll have to buy me three for giving me the ‘overhead’ treatment!
Australia has absolutely no obligation to be bringing these people into the country
Maybe it’s just a nice thing to do.
Overheard said :
overhead,
does the h stand for handler?
In something highly mathematical, as opposed to something completely abstract.
Ralph said :
Oh, this is just classic comedy. You can’t make stuff like that up.
Ralph, you fh: so %$#^ing what!
I’ve got a communications degree. I know some theory, and I’ve seen a lot of it in practice. I’m no expert, and I certainly don’t presume to know more than anyone else on the subject or hold myself as some model communicator.
You’ve got some sort of degree and you’ve written a thesis on (I’m guessing) some narrowly-defined topic.
Bravo! Kudos = 10. Relevance = 2.5. Oh, hang on; you said Economics. Make that 1.5.
Go ahead.
Ralph,
(I’ll ignore that you didn’t answer the question, and thus you sow doubts as to the veracity of your claim)
So if it’s law, and you’re advocating that we shouldn’t take refugees, then you’re advocating we break our own laws? Hey vg, Tooks and other members of the constabulary, couldn’t you charge Dr Ralph for something there? Incitement? Sedition?
Whether its law or not doesn’t make it a good idea.
Economics. What’s yours?
Ralph,
You couldn’t have looked up the law yourself?
Tell me Ralph, what does PhD (post 21) stand for?
What was your thesis in matey?
Really, is it? Even it was, just because ‘it’s law’, doesn’t mean that it makes sense.
The PC has good numbers on labour market outcomes for unskilled migrants, and they aren’t positive.
So it’s appropriate then that the hard earned taxes of plumbers and miners is used to support people who adopt here on discretion? Ohh that’s right, these dumb proles need educating, then they’ll know the elites are correct.
Fair enough Aurelius, I’ll have to check it out.
and most refugees who are unskilled bust a gut to succeed here. they are grateful that we let em in, they don’t expect much in return. and then we incarcerate the illegal immigrants in detention centres and make them feel sub standard. Illegal immigrants come here because they want a new life. some are doctors, dentists, etc, but they aren’t recognised by the australian industry bodies as such until they pass examinations.
I do not agree with incarceration in a detention centre. I do agree to sending them back from their point of origin if there is a plausible reason for doing so. (criminals especially)
refugees in other countries will sometimes join the ranks of the poor and are treated as another poverty stricken person. They get displaced by famine, war or disease, and people who once were proud members of the community are reduced to terrible conditions and lives.
I have a couple of friends from uganda. The things that they speak of from a perspective of conditions, leaving their families etc are really horrible.
Thumper,
Yep. I’ll not start quoting chapter and verse because I don’t have the relevant info here (I am at work after all) but it’s both Australian law and part of several UN conventions that we’re a signatory to.
I don’t know that it’s actually enshrined in law.
Obligation maybe, but law?
Is it?
Ralph, we accept refugees because it’s Australian law that we do. Don’t like it? Move to a country with different laws. Oh, hang on, that’d make you a refugee….
With hurricanes and spitfires and the vagaries of the weather over the English Channel.
Ralph said :
How else are we supposed to protect ourselves from the Germans?
Loose Brown said :
Agreed + 2. That’s part of the job done…