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Riding the newly opened Civic Cycle Loop. Parts 1 and 2

By johnboy 25 March 2013 53

I was summonsed this noon to the opening of stages 1 and 2 of the Civic Cycle Loop.

So with all the good will in the world I left the official ceremony to try out the new paths.

The above video I think speaks for itself. I solemnly swear I did not stage any of the difficulties encountered.

Most troublesome is the one way nature of paths on the side of the road. For most cyclists it’s going to be quicker and easier to stay bouncing between the footpaths and the road. Especially as turning right from these paths across both roads and the opposed cycle path takes a very long time.

I’ll leave it for keen eyed viewers to note what’s involved.

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Innovation 6:00 pm 10 Jul 13

Bump. I used part of this loop today riding anticlockwise. It certainly has flaws. A van crossing on Moore Street cut me off and a car turning left onto University Avenue nearly clipped me and had to stop at the last second. These intersections would be better if the cycle paths were raised and drivers had to drive over the raised crossings.

KB1971 8:47 pm 26 Mar 13

Dragonfly said :

Watch this one to the end

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

Hehehe, Johnboy could have done something similar……..

zippyzippy 8:20 pm 26 Mar 13

tim_c said :

Tell me these guys weren’t the inspiration for this new cycleway?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0VLouJFNQ

Yep, we got a better outcome than this “valpraiso cycle loop”.

enrique 8:11 pm 26 Mar 13

Those bumpy bits on Rudd Street are bloody ridiculous.

The family and I rode along there a couple of Sunday’s ago with a toddler in the back (i.e. one of those baby seats that sits up above the back wheel)… the poor kid almost bounced out of the seat and was suitably unimpressed.

Up-down-up-down-up-down… what’s the point!

It’s the most uncomfortable bike ‘lane’ I’ve ever been on.

On the upside, it will be much more interesting riding around town on a mountain bike now 😉

Agree with ABC129… they should have left the entire stretch at street level with a simple concrete divider.

Have a look at some of these for what they should of done…

http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-content/uploads/moved/buffered_bike_lane6.jpg

http://richmondva.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/picture1.jpg

http://streetsblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Montreal+Cycle+tracks.jpg

I shouldn’t be surprised really though should I… bloody ridiculous, not thought out road designs are the norm around these parts.

Growling Ferret 7:12 pm 26 Mar 13

Used the Marcus Clarke St bit today.

Summary – going south from Barry Dr – I guess you are meant to cross at Bunda St lights?

Going north is fine, but I still think its quicker to go down the Uni st whatever that is.

Overall – I think the meandering nature of the path has the intent of slowing people down to an acceptable shared space speed. The big Express Bus stop near the childcare centre is going to have plenty of pedestrians and cyclists run into each other…

Slightly OT – is the work on Ellenborough St near Yowani an extension of the on road cycle lane and completing the missing 100m?

Dragonfly 4:12 pm 26 Mar 13

Watch this one to the end

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

KB1971 1:49 pm 26 Mar 13

tim_c said :

Tell me these guys weren’t the inspiration for this new cycleway?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0VLouJFNQ

One of my fav vids evar!

patrick_keogh 1:42 pm 26 Mar 13

gooterz said :

I’m surprised they don’t tunnel under northborne to make either a pedestrian and car crossing to solve the problem of a divided Civic centre.

Doing it the other way up would be more expensive but would make more sense. The idea of making the last two blocks of Northbourne two-level would certainly remove a lot of congestion. Traffic bound for Commonwealth Av would use a tunnel from around the Barry Drive intersection, under City Hill to join Commonwealth Avenue. Vernon Circle could be entirely removed. North bound traffic would pop up at the same place, with an exit for London Circuit anticlockwise.

The surface traffic on Northbourne would then only be local traffic, and wouldn’t need to be three lanes in each direction, making life easier for pedestrians and local traffic. There would even be more space for the light rail terminal. City Hill would be much more accessible and through traffic would avoid at least three sets of traffic lights

tim_c 12:39 pm 26 Mar 13

Tell me these guys weren’t the inspiration for this new cycleway?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO0VLouJFNQ

Felix the Cat 11:39 am 26 Mar 13

gooterz said :

I’m surprised they don’t tunnel under northborne to make either a pedestrian and car crossing to solve the problem of a divided Civic centre.

Great idea, I’ll forward your suggestion on to Katy G immediately, hopefully the work can start next week.

KB1971 9:30 am 26 Mar 13

zippyzippy said :

3. Cars need to learn! Geez. Stopping in front of you and opening doors, stopping in your way on the green line etc. there’s going to be some time for everyone to get used to it.
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I was thinking while watching that about people like Masquara wondering why they get a mouthful while being a retard on the road. Now those incidents are just inconvenient but when someone nearly runs you over then the flight of fight response takes over.

KB1971 9:27 am 26 Mar 13

Benaresq said :

Am I the only one confused by the raised path? What is the logic behind it?

If the raised section continued across the road like a wide speed hump, I could see some sense in it but having a bike path which constantly changes height seems really strange to me…

The raised path make it easy to exit the cycle way, or that is what I have found anyway. If I need the car I park it across the lake, the little bit of the cylce loop I use is on the top end of Bundah St heading west. It is so much easier to pop off at the end of the raised seaction than use the driveay further dow or the pedestrian path right on the intersection.

I am not sure that is the intention but that is the way I am using it.

On the accident front, cyclists need to be aware that they cant do the speeds on this path that they can on the more open parts heading into the city. Its no different to driving on the highway, you have to slow down in built up areas.

Anyway, it makes it safer in some sections such as Marcus Clarke St, its not 100% perfect but it is an improvement.

It will be good when the eastern side is finished.

Kim F 8:45 am 26 Mar 13

Way too much stopping at red lights! What sort of cyclist are you ?

JC 11:31 pm 25 Mar 13

patrick_keogh said :

Furthermore, please decide whether you want to have your cake or eat it. Either there are hordes of cyclists making the additional 3m of road width a landmine of potential accidents for pedestrians or it won’t be used by cyclists. Pick one.

I can have my cake and eat it too in this case, simply because bikes or no bikes the way this intersection has been done makes it hard to see vehicles coming from the ANU direction. One of my colleagues has already had a close call here. Although it may have cost more the whole thing could have been done to get the same result and the refuge island kept.

bundah 10:35 pm 25 Mar 13

Thumper said :

So…

a) Monumental stuff up
b) Incredible waste of money
c) a & b
d) Passable but apparently designed by a 6 year old
e) Awesome, couldn’t ask for any more.

Consistency is very important when it comes to buggering up roadworks and upgrading cycleways and we’ve had that in spades for decades with roadworks so we’ve got some catching up to do with the cycleways and it seems we’re off to a good start!

poetix 10:25 pm 25 Mar 13

johnboy said :

Oh for those wondering about the camera.

Used in the shock case which you can hear banging against the left side brake lever.

I thought that was you thinking thoughts, such as ‘Shit’ and ‘Hi Jesus, remember me?’

poetix 10:09 pm 25 Mar 13

I found this scary, and I’m just the sort of wimp these measures are supposed to help. There seemed to be a lot of poles. A bit slalomy at times. Would be interesting to see it again at night.

On your bike! I’m a tad reluctant.

    johnboy 10:12 pm 25 Mar 13

    My girlfriend I’m trying to talk into riding saw this and said she never wanted to try anything so dangerous.

    I tried to explain that normally riding a bike isn’t this scary.

    johnboy 10:16 pm 25 Mar 13

    Oh for those wondering about the camera.

    It’s a Sony AS15 just holding it onto the handlebars as I had neglected to buy a mount.

    Used in the shock case which you can hear banging against the left side brake lever.

gungsuperstar 9:12 pm 25 Mar 13

p1 said :

johnboy said :

gooterz said :

How much are bicycle licences going to cost?

Free Free Free to get you off your large unpleasant bottom and into something healthier.

My large bottom is only unpleasant today because of all the time it spent on a mountain bike on the weekend.

Full of crap… only “cyclist” in the world who claims people should be paying for licenses/registration.

Good effort at a troll though, when you’re already well aware that most riders also have car licenses.

On the video, a pleasant surprise to only see to selfish pricks parking in it.

zippyzippy 8:52 pm 25 Mar 13

Here’s what I got from your vid (thanks for taking the vid by the way):

1. Parts of the loop still need to be finished. It’ll be better when it’s all done.
2. I wish they’d organised the crossing down near Rydges better. As is, you have to cross through 2 lights to continue the right way on the path. Maybe they should have had bikes crossing right back down near the bridge, then they’ve only one set of lights to go through to continue in the right side. I can see why people want to continue up the wrong way without crossing the road.
3. Cars need to learn! Geez. Stopping in front of you and opening doors, stopping in your way on the green line etc. there’s going to be some time for everyone to get used to it.
4. Ditto for pedestrians. They’ll be walking all over this thing and there’ll be lots of cyclist-on-ped interaction to sort through.
5. you’ve got to admit this loop is still pretty smooth and safe compared to the old way of working your way through traffic and footpaths.

patrick_keogh 8:45 pm 25 Mar 13

…oh and that’s summoned, not summonsed. Anyone who can make allusions to J.Alfred should know better.

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