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Road safety cameras being evaluated

By Barcham - 20 November 2013 39

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Simon Corbell announced today that Canberra’s road safety camera program is to be evaluated in order to assess what its impact exactly has been on crash and speeding rates in the ACT.

Proposals will be sought by the end of the year with evaluatin taking place over the first half of 2014.

“The ACT’s Road Safety Camera Program is one component of managing speed crash risks on ACT roads, along with police enforcement and community education and awareness. It is important that we understand how effectively the cameras are contributing to road safety outcomes,” said Mr Corbell.

“The camera program has evolved over more than a decade and now includes mobile, red light and speed, fixed speed only and point to point cameras. With a decade of operation now established, it is appropriate to evaluate the performance of the program as a whole

“An evaluation of the program will assist the Government to identify any opportunities to gain improved road safety effectiveness from the existing program and help ensure that any future changes are as well informed as possible.

“The evaluation will look at the impact of the road safety camera program as well as the governance of the program.”

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Road safety cameras being evaluated
BimboGeek 5:03 pm 20 Nov 13

Well I’ll agree with the “feedback comes far too late after making the mistake” argument. Teachers know students learn from mistakes only if they are caught immediately and the correct answer reinforced. Otherwise they only learn to continue making the same mistake.

davo101 4:55 pm 20 Nov 13

goggles13 said :

a sample size of 8 is not really meaningful

60 seconds of googling produces this meta-study that found 28 of 28 available studies showed a reduction in crashes after the installation of speed cameras.

gazket 3:39 pm 20 Nov 13

More Labor waste

goggles13 3:16 pm 20 Nov 13

Martlark said :

maxblues said :

According to an ABC radio listener, studies done at English universities show that speed cameras/speed camera signs cause more accidents because motorists are too busy checking the sides of roads and their speedometer, rather than watching the road conditions and the traffic around them. A point was made about the distinction between driving in a safe manner and keeping below a speed limit.The NRMA (also on ABC radio) are not fans of speed cameras because of the lag time and disconnect between someone speeding and someone receiving a fine in the mail. They would prefer a larger police presence on the roads to discourage people speeding in ‘real time’.

I call bunk on this. A quick search of scientific data shows up the follow meta analysis from the British Medical Journal. http://www.bmj.com/content/330/7487/331

Abstract quote:

Results: 14 observational studies met the inclusion criteria; no randomised controlled trials were found. Most studies were before-after studies without controls (n = 8). All but one of the studies showed effectiveness of cameras up to three years or less after their introduction; one study showed sustained longer term effects (4.6 years after introduction). Reductions in outcomes across studies ranged from 5% to 69% for collisions, 12% to 65% for injuries, and 17% to 71% for deaths in the immediate vicinity of camera sites. The reductions over wider geographical areas were of a similar order of magnitude.

So, there you are, speed cameras are effective in reducing death and injuries on the roads.

a sample size of 8 is not really meaningful

johnboy 2:54 pm 20 Nov 13

I used to buy the distraction argument.

And I’d be all for taking a lot of the crap off our roadsides.

But if you’re unable to keep track of speed signs you’re not really competent to be driving IMHO.

Martlark 2:52 pm 20 Nov 13

maxblues said :

According to an ABC radio listener, studies done at English universities show that speed cameras/speed camera signs cause more accidents because motorists are too busy checking the sides of roads and their speedometer, rather than watching the road conditions and the traffic around them. A point was made about the distinction between driving in a safe manner and keeping below a speed limit.The NRMA (also on ABC radio) are not fans of speed cameras because of the lag time and disconnect between someone speeding and someone receiving a fine in the mail. They would prefer a larger police presence on the roads to discourage people speeding in ‘real time’.

I call bunk on this. A quick search of scientific data shows up the follow meta analysis from the British Medical Journal. http://www.bmj.com/content/330/7487/331

Abstract quote:

Results: 14 observational studies met the inclusion criteria; no randomised controlled trials were found. Most studies were before-after studies without controls (n = 8). All but one of the studies showed effectiveness of cameras up to three years or less after their introduction; one study showed sustained longer term effects (4.6 years after introduction). Reductions in outcomes across studies ranged from 5% to 69% for collisions, 12% to 65% for injuries, and 17% to 71% for deaths in the immediate vicinity of camera sites. The reductions over wider geographical areas were of a similar order of magnitude.

So, there you are, speed cameras are effective in reducing death and injuries on the roads.

maxblues 2:05 pm 20 Nov 13

According to an ABC radio listener, studies done at English universities show that speed cameras/speed camera signs cause more accidents because motorists are too busy checking the sides of roads and their speedometer, rather than watching the road conditions and the traffic around them. A point was made about the distinction between driving in a safe manner and keeping below a speed limit.The NRMA (also on ABC radio) are not fans of speed cameras because of the lag time and disconnect between someone speeding and someone receiving a fine in the mail. They would prefer a larger police presence on the roads to discourage people speeding in ‘real time’.

damien haas 1:20 pm 20 Nov 13

i like how speed cameras have now become ‘road safety’ cameras because we all know they have multiple applications like taking photos of numbskulls texting while driving, dangerously chopping in and out of lanes etc. yep good old road safety cameras targeting speed only.

house_husband 1:07 pm 20 Nov 13

Thumper said :

Put more of them and offset my taxes/ rego/ whatever against the undoubted revenue that they will bring in!

Agreed. I haven’t been caught speeding in 20+ years of driving so I’m in favour of dozens more cameras if this offsets my rego fees or rates.

Just so long as everyone realises they do nothing to very little in actually contributing to road safety.

Watson 12:31 pm 20 Nov 13

Thumper said :

Put more of them and offset my taxes/ rego/ whatever against the undoubted revenue that they will bring in!

This.

I welcome a review to see if they could make more a of a difference in different locations. But keep the ones that are already there where they are if they bring in the revenue. It’s easy money that then doesn’t have to get tacked onto our rates bills.

Thumper 12:06 pm 20 Nov 13

Put more of them and offset my taxes/ rego/ whatever against the undoubted revenue that they will bring in!

thebrownstreak69 11:07 am 20 Nov 13

“…asses what its impact…”

Tee hee.

Rollersk8r 10:41 am 20 Nov 13

I swear I read/heard elsewhere speed cameras were introduced by the Liberals. So this is perfect – if the cameras are ineffective it’s not Corbell’s fault. But assuming they are effective he will have no choice but to follow the report…

I also query the quote used in the Canberra Times that speed is a factor in more than a quarter of accidents. What does this really mean? In the context of speed cameras this can only mean more than 1 in 4 accidents are caused by cars breaking the speed limit, which I find highly unlikely.

Zeital 10:23 am 20 Nov 13

goggles13 said :

how much is the studying costing?

easy to predict the outcomes:
1. Effectively contributing to road safety and more should be installed to further help this.
2. Making a shedload of money for the Govt, so install more.

I would have to agree, money grabbing that does nothing to slow people down once they are ‘clear’ of these cameras.

goggles13 9:48 am 20 Nov 13

how much is the studying costing?

easy to predict the outcomes:
1. Effectively contributing to road safety and more should be installed to further help this.
2. Making a shedload of money for the Govt, so install more.

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