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School based protection orders on the rise

By johnboy 22 November 2008 57

The Canberra Times brings word of a 38% increase in school based protection orders issued by the courts over last year.

The total number is 54.

    “The orders can apply to children as young as eight, require a court appearance and force the alleged bully to keep a distance of between 3m and 100m from their accuser, making them notoriously difficult for a school to enforce. Breaching an order is an offence that can result in a child acquiring a criminal record.”

Apparently Sheila Foliaki-Singh is the woman to see if you’re looking for some judicial intervention in the schoolyard.

You really can get a lawyer for everything these days.

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Special G 6:51 am 26 Nov 08

Granny said :

Gerry-Built said :

Maybe we need some tougher laws like these to protect all and sundry in our schools…?

Oh surely that couldn’t have happened!

Use substance to cause discomfort -it’s what that copper got charged with in the watch house.

Granny 12:08 am 26 Nov 08

Gerry-Built said :

Maybe we need some tougher laws like these to protect all and sundry in our schools…?

Oh surely that couldn’t have happened!

Gerry-Built 11:10 pm 25 Nov 08

Maybe we need some tougher laws like these to protect all and sundry in our schools…?

It is not a case of running off to get an AVO too early (caf @ #50 is right), it is just that the school can only go so far, and real action *requires* the law – assault is assault, even at school – and suspension is just simply not the answer to assault(or enough action)!

Tooks 1:14 pm 25 Nov 08

Hdopler said :

Tooks said :

Hdopler,

1. That’s never going to happen. Those days are gone.
2. What are you on about? Police will always be involved IF an incident is reported to them.

I think there are also too many people rushing off to get an AVO as a first resort.

Agree that many people rush off to get an AVO too early, but there have been cases where police have told a complainant that they will not get involved – not they can’t get involved – they won’t. That sucks.

Could you name a couple of cases where police told a complainant that they won’t get involved? Just curious.

Hdopler 1:02 pm 25 Nov 08

As

Hdopler said :

Tooks said :

Hdopler,

1. That’s never going to happen. Those days are gone.
2. What are you on about? Police will always be involved IF an incident is reported to them.

I think there are also too many people rushing off to get an AVO as a first resort.

Agree that many people rush off to get an AVO too early, but there have been cases where police have told a complainant that they will not get involved – not they can’t get involved – they won’t. That sucks.

As for 1, that’s both the problem and a potential solution.

Hdopler 12:48 pm 25 Nov 08

Tooks said :

Hdopler,

1. That’s never going to happen. Those days are gone.
2. What are you on about? Police will always be involved IF an incident is reported to them.

I think there are also too many people rushing off to get an AVO as a first resort.

Agree that many people rush off to get an AVO too early, but there have been cases where police have told a complainant that they will not get involved – not they can’t get involved – they won’t. That sucks.

Tooks 11:43 am 25 Nov 08

It’s not bollocks at all, although I was talking more about tit-for-tat cases (bad kid v another bad kid), rather than genuine cases of bullying.

caf 11:34 am 25 Nov 08

Bollocks. If an AVO is being sought it means that the child has spoken up, which means that the bullying has almost certainly been going on for months if not years.

Tooks 11:21 am 25 Nov 08

Hdopler,

1. That’s never going to happen. Those days are gone.
2. What are you on about? Police will always be involved IF an incident is reported to them.

I think there are also too many people rushing off to get an AVO as a first resort.

Hdopler 11:15 am 25 Nov 08

The problem can be fixed by:

1. Giving teachers real power over students: canning, suspension, expulsion should all be back on the cards. Caning last resort it should be noted, after all other methods have failed.

2. Police need to have their butts kicked and get involved in school cases. Granny is right in saying that the school is a workplace and the protection of the law should extend to it.

That said, the world is not a nice place and kids do need to learn to deal with people that are (a) idiots (b) nasty (c) mean-spirited etc without resorting to taking out AVO etc, as always there is a fine-line between what one child will perceive as ‘bullying’ and others as simply light-hearted ‘taking the Mickey’

Gerry-Built 4:23 pm 24 Nov 08

Special G (@#42): “Think outside the box instead of just whinging about it” – and your suggestion is thinking outside the box (along with the chain-gang and solitary)??? …and modifies the bad behaviour/bullying how? In this day and age, I think we are beyond such methods, are we not?

These problems are not here because we removed canes and dummies hats! They are here because nothing was put in their place except “schools need to work it out for themselves”… Classroom teachers have no power, and those that do (executive) are sometimes unwilling to do so because of the way the system is set up to discourage suspensions and eliminate expulsion.

…and rather than just “whinge”, I did actually throw some ideas in too 😛

Parents are also to blame in so far as not having set limits (ie what is acceptable) and disciplining (not beating up) their children with consequences when these limits are stretched or broken. If kids are already misbehaving by the time they are in school, what hope have teachers got of straightening them out after they’ve been broken already? Having said that, It’s not like a “Dummies Guide” is handed out to new parents, and perhaps that’s part of the initial problem?

Discipline is all about teaching a lesson, not scaring / threatening. Restorative Practices are meant to let they bully know what damage they’ve caused, but if the barometer is already broken, how can they understand?

Granny 9:55 am 24 Nov 08

Yes, come on Andrew. Why not take a peek incognito? It would be so much fun that alone should be worth it. It’s good to be the King! What’s power for if you don’t use it? How boring ….

BerraBoy68 7:24 am 24 Nov 08

Thumper said :

Right now I’m inviting the Minister to come to my school – WITHOUT NOTICE so the school doesn’t ‘clean up’ etc – and see what really goes on in a school.

As a public servant who once dealt in this sort of stuff, I can tell you that it won’t happen. Ministers never go anywhere without a full event brief.

Too true Thumper. It’s a bit like the Royals believing the world really does smell like fresh paint;) But what an initiative it would be for Barr to do something bold and different for a change!

nyssa76 7:07 am 24 Nov 08

Special G, we have Level 2’s with 1-3 years teaching experience PERIOD in the system.

They don’t even have the classroom experience down pat and they don’t have a clue to begin with. They’ve been chosen over teachers with 10+ years experience and knowledge. I still question that logic.

They don’t do any other Professional Development than ‘how to be a Level 2’.

It’s not about ‘whinging’, it’s about getting the job done and protecting our students from bullies.

Special G 6:44 am 24 Nov 08

Kids in the 80’s at Darra got more than just a cricket bat across the buttocks.

Special G 6:38 am 24 Nov 08

Level 2’s trained in dealing with behavioural issues.

If we don’t have them currently we get them. Think outside the box instead of just whinging about it.

shauno 5:02 am 24 Nov 08

Well Ive got to say it but this stuff was never an issue at Darra during the Eighties. I got the strap for simply talking in assembly in grade 5. The edge of the ruler across the knuckles in grade 5 and 6 and for high school entertainment I got the cricket bat across the arse. All in good fun and and all for a few small misdemeanour’s. Others copped it worse for more serious matters of school yard behaviour but it certainly kept us all under control.

It all seems to have unravelled due to bleeding heart left wingers and political correctness gone mad along with increasing levels of bureaucracy and regulation that is bring the country to its knees.

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