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So when do the legal explosives legally go on sale?

By MWF - 2 June 2009 54

I have family arriving from regional NSW on the coming long weekend. We are combining specialist appointments on the Tuesday with a weekend of legal explosives, seafood and poker.  It won’t be the same without the fireworks.

I haven’t seen any advertising yet. Is there some special date that they can advertise or start selling fireworks this year?

[ED – Better enjoy it, the Canberra Times reports that John Hargreaves is going to try to convince cabinet to go for a ban, which would make this year the last. Except for sparkler bombs]

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54 Responses to
So when do the legal explosives legally go on sale?
lobster 12:30 pm 02 Jun 09

Aren’t illegal fireworks made int he same factory by the same factories?
Just that they aren’t legal in Australia is all?

peterh 12:28 pm 02 Jun 09

Skidbladnir said :

I’m amazed that the solution to dealing with the issue of a minority of Canberrans increasing their usage of illegal fireworks is to make more fireworks illegal.

Bless you and your circular logic, Canberra.

skid,

at least they haven’t banned them altogether. wait for the sparkler bans after person gets superficial burn from hot end of sparkler… sometimes this place is so lame…

Skidbladnir 12:25 pm 02 Jun 09

I’m amazed that the solution to dealing with the issue of a minority of Canberrans increasing their usage of illegal fireworks is to make more fireworks illegal.

Bless you and your circular logic, Canberra.

peterh 12:14 pm 02 Jun 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

are you sure you want illegals?

Hang on, let me check my Magic 8 Ball.

Yes. Yes, I do.

you could build your own – they would have the same reaction when they go radically wrong…

Woody Mann-Caruso 12:00 pm 02 Jun 09

are you sure you want illegals?

Hang on, let me check my Magic 8 Ball.

Yes. Yes, I do.

Skidbladnir 11:56 am 02 Jun 09

By the way, from http://www.ors.act.gov.au/WorkCover/pdfs/DangSubs/Guides/ConsFireworkBrochure.pdf

When can I be supplied with consumer fireworks?
You can only be supplied with consumer fireworks between 8am on the Friday immediately before, and 5pm on the Sunday of, the Queen’s Birthday long weekend.

When can I use consumer fireworks?
You can only use fireworks during the Saturday and Sunday of the Queen’s Birthday long weekend between 5pm and 9pm.
It is an offence to use fireworks at any other time. The maximum penalty is $3000.

Who can use my consumer fireworks?
The only people allowed to use your consumer fireworks are:
• the person named as the authorised person on the receipt
• anyone under the direct supervision of the person named as the authorised person on the receipt.

If you use a consumer firework without authorisation you
may be guilty of a serious offence.
The maximum penalty for using a firework without authorisation is $75,000, imprisonment for 3 years or both.

peterh 11:44 am 02 Jun 09

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Forget legal fireworks. I want illegal fireworks 🙁

woody, I have seen the effects of the legal fireworks used incorrectly, are you sure you want illegals? at least the legal fireqworks are assembled fairly well…

Woody Mann-Caruso 11:22 am 02 Jun 09

Forget legal fireworks. I want illegal fireworks 🙁

cantanga 10:17 am 02 Jun 09

deezagood- I see your point, I shall also add doctors to my list (even though doctors aren’t relly all that vocal in the media when it comes to the debate over banning fireworks)

deezagood 10:01 am 02 Jun 09

cantanga said :

ChrisinTurner said :

Unfortunately, a few people going ‘nuts’ are going to make fireworks illegal for everyone.

Well them and the RSPCA, pet owners, some old people who have nothing better to do then whinge, politicians,smurfs and those damn hippies. It unfortunatly seems that there are more and more people jumping on the ban them bandwagon.

Cantanga – I honestly have no strong opinion about fireworks either way, as we are minimally directly impacted (we keep our dogs inside, use earplugs on firecracker weekends and are yet to have our letterbox blown up, but expecting that this may happen soon). I can see the rational argument against them though. Have a chat to any of the staff that work in the ER over firecracker weekend and you may actually see a different side to the story – lots of burn victims, lots of hurt kids etc… It was these types of injuries that made other states ban firworks in the first place. It really isn’t just the oldies, hippies and dog-lovers; I think a lot of people are questioning whether or not it is really worth it (from a cost-benefit equation perspective). I personally won’t be sad to see them go, nor will I be particularly bothered if they stay … until my letterbox gets blown up that is.

Skidbladnir 9:54 am 02 Jun 09

(From the CT article)
“It will be the last time Canberrans will be able to buy fireworks in the ACT if Labor MLA John Hargreaves succeeds with his plan to make cracker night illegal.
He said Canberrans were divided on the issue of fireworks.
The polling shows Canberrans are either 49 or 51 per cent for the ban.”

On the other hand, Canberrans are either 51% or 49% in favour of keeping fireworks, implying an even 50-50 split, and a 1% margin of error, for a 95% confidence interval, which requires a poll sample of about 10,000 people.

(Its been a while since I did statistics, but I do remember that margins of error are a diminishing return on sample size.)

Thankyou Canberra Times, and Ewa Kretowicz, for not questioning statistics provided by a Government prettymuch defined by lack of proper consultation, so that you are producing exactly the kind of spin they are trying to play.

cantanga 9:52 am 02 Jun 09

Oh and as for when they go on sale, if it is still the same as last year then not until one or two days beforehand

cantanga 9:51 am 02 Jun 09

ChrisinTurner said :

Unfortunately, a few people going ‘nuts’ are going to make fireworks illegal for everyone.

Well them and the RSPCA, pet owners, some old people who have nothing better to do then whinge, politicians,smurfs and those damn hippies. It unfortunatly seems that there are more and more people jumping on the ban them bandwagon.

ChrisinTurner 9:43 am 02 Jun 09

They are obviously illegally already on sale for the idiots who set fire to two AustraliaPost letterboxes last weekend. Unfortunately, a few people going ‘nuts’ are going to make fireworks illegal for everyone. A few years ago my wife, who was very ill from chemotherapy, suffered a bad shock caused by idiots throwing bungers from their second floor apartment at pedestrians. The police were there quickly but only gave them a caution.

luther_bendross 9:31 am 02 Jun 09

I saw the first ad of the season on TV last night, it said they go on sale 8am Friday. However, you can’t asplode them until Saturday night. I thought last year we could go nuts on Friday as well???

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