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Speed Camera on the Barton Highway – Revenue Raising… Proof Positive

By Jonathon Reynolds 5 October 2007 32

A couple of weeks ago I tried my hand at producing a YouTube video. I submitted a link to that video as a comment in regard to an article on speed cameras. Two weeks later, same location, same speed camera – I’m back with a new video.

Interestingly, now we discover that the speed camera on the Barton Highway (near the GDE) has been turned around to “catch” traffic heading out of Canberra after the October long weekend. In my books this is proof positive that the ACT Government doesn’t have this camera here for safety… but rather purely revenue raising purposes only.

Why would you target traffic leaving the ACT after a holiday long weekend. If they were serious about the issue of speeding, there would be roadside patrols pulling speeders over then and there.


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hairy nosed wombat 10:16 am 09 Oct 07

That is right, there is nothing like having a trail by media, followed by a good old witch hunt. If someone wants to collect the faggots, we can burn them at the stake.

oh, and for those who are not up with old english terms: Faggot = a bundle of sticks and branches bound together

la mente torbida 9:36 am 09 Oct 07

Amazing….no need for Police Accident Squads….just use RiotACT subscribers to determine cause based on vehicle(s), location and in-buit prejudices.

hairy nosed wombat 10:51 am 08 Oct 07

Speeding does cause accidents.

Seen this morning near the Barton highway greed camera, (well the after effects of it) a two car accident where one car must have tapped their brakes, after realising they were going too fast and approaching the greed camera, and the car behind …
Just another effect of these fixed greed cameras, benefit for the local panel beaters.

el ......VNBerlinaV8 12:44 pm 06 Oct 07

Just quietly – speed cameras stop me from speeding.

miz 11:06 am 06 Oct 07

Remember BUGAUP? Perhaps in the spirit of BUGAUP, a few civil minded citizens could cover the cameras with black garbo bags every night in protest . . . ? (I know I am tempted . . )

Jonathon Reynolds 8:55 am 06 Oct 07

The “Beefcake” thanks you for your film making advice and advises that a lapel microphone has now been procured for the next exciting episode. 😛

Hasdrubahl 7:03 am 06 Oct 07

Filmmaking 101: never record a Piece To Camera next to a busy road.

Had to play it twice to hear this beefcake’s beef.

shauno 12:31 am 06 Oct 07

Speeding in general does not cause accidents. It makes the outcome of accidents worse but thats all. I believe the statistics in Canberra would show categorically that speeding is a minor contributor to all accidents in the region.

Pandy 12:07 am 06 Oct 07

Stanhope has admitted that speed cameras no longer need to be placed at black spot locations. They are there to remind people that speeding causes accidents in general.

barney 11:13 pm 05 Oct 07

Gee. RiotACT is changing …

Woody Mann-Caruso 10:23 pm 05 Oct 07

The fact is, speed cameras do not stop people from speeding unless they are in speed camera zone

But Thumper says that speed cameras catch heaps of people speeding. Which is it? Do speed cameras make people slow down near speed cameras, or don’t they? You can’t have it both ways – or maybe you can if you’re as thick as a whale omelette. Did Orange have to hire a new village idiot when you moved?

Because they still catch heaps of people speeding.

How many more would speed if the camera wasn’t there?

p1 4:27 pm 05 Oct 07

….if we really want to reduce the number of crashes we need to put a red light camera at every intersection….

I think that the red light/speed combination cameras are a significantly better option from a road safety point of view.

Being “inobservant” while driving is a safety problem in and of itself, and if the speed cameras discourage this too then that’s great.

This is quite true I guess (and I claim typo for the inobservant thing, the “i” and “u” are right next to each other.

“The most frequent accident-type is the ’rear end collision’…

the closest I have come to a rear-ender in a long time was from another motorist pulling in front of me just before a speed camera, then slowing suddenly from the 10km/h over the limit he had been happily doing to 10km/h under the limit.

JD114 3:40 pm 05 Oct 07

I would be prepared to lay a substantial portion of my next month’s salary that a far greater reduction in road accidents and casualties would result from an effective campaign to punish motorists who leave less than a two second gap between them and the vehicle in front combined with ways to check the alertness of drivers.

An alert driver on a stretch of road with ample distance to the next vehicle at 10-20km/hr abovethe limit is a hell of a lot less risk to the community than a half awake stereo fiddling bored driver who thinks that 20-30m gap at 100km/hr is ample…

But the lowly intellects who inhabit the various Road Safety offices around the country are incapable of thinking outside the easy mantra of “all speed is bad”. Still, this is the country that voluntarily elected the Workchoices team so with that kind of dumbkopfs at the top, we should expect little better further down the food chain.

AG Canberra 3:10 pm 05 Oct 07

The ACT Gov tells us that the cameras are an integral part of both the ACT Road Safety Strategy and the National Road Safety Strategy.
Try these facts from ACT Crash data and see if they seem to match with the installation of fixed speed cameras on clear straight sections of road:
“The most frequent accident-type is the ’rear end collision’ (46% of all crashes). In terms of severity, the ‘right-angle collision’ type is the most frequent, (28% of all casualty crashes)”
“The sharp peaks (of accidents) from 8 am to 9 am and 5 pm to 6 pm coincide with the relatively short and confined traffic volume peaks in the ACT.”

Looking at this logically if we really want to reduce the number of crashes we need to put a red light camera at every intersection and somehow get people to back off from the car in front and pay attention.

Putting speed cameras on busy arterial roads WILL NOT reduce accidents in these locations as the average speed during this time is mostly below the speed limit anyway. People will continue to run up the arse of the car in front and no amount of speed cameras will stop that.

caf 2:19 pm 05 Oct 07

Being “inobservant” while driving is a safety problem in and of itself, and if the speed cameras discourage this too then that’s great.

p1 1:12 pm 05 Oct 07

So what exactly is the issue here? That governments are not doing enough for safety, or that they should not raise revenue?

The issue is that they should claim to be dealing with a safety issue, when in fact they are revenue raising. If they were to simply admit that speed cameras are a tax on stupid/inobservant people (in the same way that pokies are a tax on people with poor math skills) then that would be fine. But then they would have to actually DO something about road safety (and that would take money, without turning a profit).

Mr Evil 12:29 pm 05 Oct 07

“Maybe they can introduce Rape-detecting cameras….”

And attach one to each Canty Bulldog player.

PigDog 12:24 pm 05 Oct 07

So what exactly is the issue here? That governments are not doing enough for safety, or that they should not raise revenue?

Thumper 12:04 pm 05 Oct 07

Pro tip. Learn to read. My comment at 8.41.

hingo_VRCalaisV6 12:02 pm 05 Oct 07

If it is true what you speed camera fanatics are saying, that if they can create a machine to stop people speeding, then why don’t they just replace human’s with these cameras? Maybe they can introduce Rape-detecting cameras or granny-basher cameras. What a wonderful age we live in.

The fact is, speed cameras do not stop people from speeding unless they are in speed camera zones. Take a look at the drivers around you and its pretty fucking obvious.

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