Teacher protest 2011 style

Bump. Two more days of industrial action planned for November 7th & 8th.

Get set for more half-arsed union spin about how teachers are striking for the benefit of students.

Please Elaborate on Lanyon. My kids go there, and apart from the crapy Head Mistress, I find the school teachings and teachers to be great

Ten years ago 🙂

Thumper said :

Interestingly, in their attempt to get pay parity the teachers neglect to tell anyone that in the NSW system you could be posted anywhere from Bombala to Ballina and anywhere in between, whereas in Canberra the worst you can get is, well Lanyon.

I also note that no-one has actually mentioned how much an ACT teacher gets paid. Believe me, it’s not that bad, really. And where is this money going to come from?

Having said that, I think schools should be employing more teachers to lighten the load on the current teachers.

Incidentally, I used to teach at Lanyon.

Please Elaborate on Lanyon. My kids go there, and apart from the crapy Head Mistress, I find the school teachings and teachers to be great.

Ben_Dover said :

Jim Jones said :

You don’t think that a strike that doesn’t effect the community in any way might be a bit … pointless?

There are five distinct words here. When “affect” is accented on the final syllable (a-FECT), it is usually a verb meaning “have an influence on”: “The million-dollar donation from the industrialist did not affect my vote against the Clean Air Act.”

Occasionally a pretentious person is said to affect an artificial air of sophistication. Speaking with a borrowed French accent or ostentatiously wearing a large diamond ear stud might be an affectation. In this sort of context, “affect” means “to make a display of or deliberately cultivate.”

Another unusual meaning is indicated when the word is accented on the first syllable (AFF-ect), meaning “emotion.” In this case the word is used mostly by psychiatrists and social scientists—people who normally know how to spell it.

The real problem arises when people confuse the first spelling with the second: “effect.” This too can be two different words. The more common one is a noun: “When I left the stove on, the effect was that the house filled with smoke.” When you affect a situation, you have an effect on it.

Less common is a verb meaning “to create”: “I’m trying to effect a change in the way we purchase widgets.” No wonder people are confused. Note especially that the proper expression is not “take affect” but “take effect”—become effective. Hey, nobody ever said English was logical: just memorize it and get on with your life.

The stuff in your purse? Your personal effects.

The stuff in movies? Sound effects and special effects.

“Affective” is a technical term having to do with emotions; the vast majority of the time the spelling you want is “effective.”

Get a life.

Frug said :

Payrates are here.

http://www.det.act.gov.au/employment/payrates

To save some hassle – $48219 for a first year out. $78837 for the highest paid classroom teacher. A middle band APS6 in DEEWR makes about the same as the highest paid teacher. Hope that helps.

The current rates are on the right hand side, so a first year teacher makes more than that.

Also, the middle band APS6 in DEEWR doesn’t get twelve weeks of paid leave per year.

Payrates are here.

http://www.det.act.gov.au/employment/payrates

To save some hassle – $48219 for a first year out. $78837 for the highest paid classroom teacher. A middle band APS6 in DEEWR makes about the same as the highest paid teacher. Hope that helps.

johnboy said :

Was there a push for parity at times NSW was earning less?

Actually, parity (particularly with NSW) has consistently been “a push” in the 10 years I have been in the education sector… it was only in the last two EBAs that we dropped significantly down; and during the previous negotiations (and due to the GFC), the ACT Government had said that it would be rectified this time around, should they be in a better financial position.

Interestingly, in their attempt to get pay parity the teachers neglect to tell anyone that in the NSW system you could be posted anywhere from Bombala to Ballina and anywhere in between, whereas in Canberra the worst you can get is, well Lanyon.

I also note that no-one has actually mentioned how much an ACT teacher gets paid. Believe me, it’s not that bad, really. And where is this money going to come from?

Having said that, I think schools should be employing more teachers to lighten the load on the current teachers.

Incidentally, I used to teach at Lanyon.

What’s that? People hate teachers striking because ‘you said so’?

Well, that’s good enough for me.

Wow lookout! An online poll from the Canberra Times to back up your poorly thought out argument! The very same Canberra Times that you berate for not being accurate, unbiased, or intelligent when they don’t support your argument.

I’m sure you’ll forgive me for not putting much stock in their online poll.

Oh, and look! A survey paid for by the teachers union! A survey of 400 people, whose questions, findings, and population sample are nowhere to be found online. Isn’t that something? In fact, the only evidence of the magical number of 88% also comes from the Canberra Times!

Well, that’s it. You’ve convinced us all with your airtight evidence, copied and pasted again, which had already been addressed elsewhere.