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The Battle of Mt Ainslie cast into sharper definition.

By johnboy - 13 October 2009 47

In the great conflict between legislature and executive that we know as the English Civil War the Battle of Marston Moor is widely considered to be definitive.

Particularly insofar as it begs the question; on which side would you stand?

With unthinking tradition and the safety of letting others determine your fate, with the King’s cavaliers?

Or would you take responsibility for yourself, choose to be a thinking part of your society, and take responsibility for the outcomes? As the great editor of the London Times, Simon Jenkins, described that conflict:

The historian Isaac Foot, father of Michael, said that he judged a man by one thing, ‘On which side would he have fought at Marston Moor’, the King’s or Parliament’s.

The pendulum of politics long ago stopped swinging from Left to Right, now being stuck on Right. But it always swings from Roundhead to Cavalier. It swings from the authority of democratic institutions, defended ceaselessly and sometimes bloodily, to the corruption of over-centralised power.”

This weekend, on Saturday, the gap toothed bogan cavaliers of the repulsive “Catch The Fire Ministries” are bussing in from all over the country to wage what they call “Spiritual Warfare” on decent and law abiding members of our community.

For those who don’t monitor media Pastor Danny (who claimed the Victorian bushfires were the vengeance of god for abortion legalisation) has been highlighted by winning an Ernie Award for his egregious sexism. And today for claiming that human rights are the work of satan:

Asked what evidence of Satan there was in Parliament, Mr Nalliah said: “The number of politicians who have serious marriage problems.”

Legislation supporting homosexuality, abortion and a push for a Bill of rights were other areas where Mr Nallian said the devil was having influence.

“Me trying to explain it to you is like trying to teach a cricketer how to play soccer,” Mr Nalliah said.

[For mine I would prefer a constitutional guarantee of limited rights (to make them all the more treasured), but I’m not going to stand with the cavaliers who consider human rights in general to be the work of the devil.]

So, this Saturday, how are you defined? Do you support intolerant nutcases, from out of town, as they wage self described “warfare” against your fellow Canberrans?

Or do you drive up the mountain to show these arseholes what you think of them?

Worse? Do you sit on the sideline and let better people than you decide the outcome?

See you there.

What’s Your opinion?


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47 Responses to
The Battle of Mt Ainslie cast into sharper definition.
Skidbladnir 11:50 am 13 Oct 09

Really, if you want to show Danny as lunatic fringedweller, just take a camera, say it will go on YouTube to document the Opening Salvo of the 09-? Spirit War, ask him gentle questions about what they are doing, and keep the focus on him and his followers.

Going up there dressed as mind-controlling\babykiller\warty\lighter than a duck witches is just going to trip the man into being justified.

However, seeing a conspiracy whereby you credit opponents have total control of the world through parliament is just outright paranoia.

Nambucco Deliria 11:40 am 13 Oct 09

I think you’ll find, Johnboy, that Parliament was actually on the side of cutting off people’s human rights in Seventeenth century England. If we lived under the glorious reign of Oliver Cromwell now, you and your folk-music loving chums would be the first into the ducking stools.

PBO 11:13 am 13 Oct 09

fnaah said :

So, Johnboy, is there actually a plan? Meet at a certain time/place, with slogans printed on placards/tshirts/etc?

I am going to wear my hat with a flap on the back so i fit in with all the fashionable christians and top off the rest of the outfit with a touch of stigmata.

Muttsybignuts 11:08 am 13 Oct 09

Don’t give the idiots any more attention than they deserve. What would have been a bunch of tools standing around praying or yelling or whatever by themselves and then skulking off has been turned into this almighty spectacle, albeit Satan almighty.
Now that National media has got on board, CTF will get reams of free advertising and coverage. If there is a showdown ( and by showdown I mean some uncomfortable name calling) between Christian nerds and Witch nerds and sh*t stirring nerds then Today tonight will lap it up and Nalliah will get his mug on National television. Which is exactly what he wants.

Jim Jones 10:36 am 13 Oct 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Wyvernsridge said :

In the olden days, there was always a bucket of tar and a bag of feathers…. but that is unacceptable today. So, maybe some rational conversation about what we feel about their nutbaggery?

Even better, how about some rational discussion that doesn’t involve name calling and emotive rhetoric.

Like calling homosexuals ‘satanic’ perhaps? Or maybe viewing marital problems as evidence of the Devil’s influence?

Is it possible to be more irrational and emotional than this?

Really, VY, it staggers me that you continue to stick up for this mob of fools.

Thoroughly Smashed 10:31 am 13 Oct 09

Trunking symbols said :

QUOTE: “Me trying to explain it to you is like trying to teach a cricketer how to play soccer,” Mr Nalliah said.

Translation: “I’m cannot rationally justify my position so I’m going to arrogantly claim that you wouldn’t understand it anyway.”

GnT said :

In related news, CTF’s Danny Nalliah has been nominated for a Good News Week Religion Award.

That one’s a tough one, they’re all such good nominations. I think I’m going to have to vote for the pope though, unfortunately many more people take him seriously.

fnaah 10:04 am 13 Oct 09

So, Johnboy, is there actually a plan? Meet at a certain time/place, with slogans printed on placards/tshirts/etc?

StrangeAttractor 9:53 am 13 Oct 09

Unfortunately I’m attending a pagan wedding ceremony this weekend so I’ll be unable to have a healthy debate with irrational nutjobs. I’ve tried to convince the couple to conduct it atop Mt Ainslie, but they didn’t like that idea 🙁

GnT 9:46 am 13 Oct 09

In related news, CTF’s Danny Nalliah has been nominated for a Good News Week Religion Award.

amarooresident2 9:44 am 13 Oct 09

Not sure the civil war analogy works in this case as the religeous nutbags were on the side of parliament. In fact one could argue that all Pastor Danny and his friends are doing is expressing their democratic right to make their (wrongheaded) point and that in fact those that plan to oppose them are in fact acting as the cavaliers in argueing for the status quo.

pptvb 9:23 am 13 Oct 09

What time?
I love taunting idiots.

S4anta 9:11 am 13 Oct 09

Go get ’em tiger! I haven’t seen anyone so worked since a middy was placed in your hand unwittingly.

Trunking symbols 9:08 am 13 Oct 09

QUOTE: “Me trying to explain it to you is like trying to teach a cricketer how to play soccer,” Mr Nalliah said.

Actually it is quite easy to teach a cricketer how to play soccer. My cousin, for example, was an accomplished cricketer during the summer months and played soccer during winter.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_ 8:18 am 13 Oct 09

Wyvernsridge said :

In the olden days, there was always a bucket of tar and a bag of feathers…. but that is unacceptable today. So, maybe some rational conversation about what we feel about their nutbaggery?

Even better, how about some rational discussion that doesn’t involve name calling and emotive rhetoric.

Wyvernsridge 5:45 am 13 Oct 09

In the olden days, there was always a bucket of tar and a bag of feathers…. but that is unacceptable today. So, maybe some rational conversation about what we feel about their nutbaggery?

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