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The most lucrative speed cameras in Canberra are…

By johnboy - 17 April 2013 36

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The magic of FOI presents a list of the red light and speed cameras in the ACT and how much money they’ve raked in.

Northbourne Avenue and Antill Street seems very popular.

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The most lucrative speed cameras in Canberra are…
dtc 11:03 am 18 Apr 13

bundah said :

Ha no i think it would be far more effective to have a revolving numberplate.

I know in the US they used to sell little lights (lasers) that sat above your number plate and went back and forth very quickly, so in the time taken to expose a photo the light just blurred out the entire number plate. But you could see the plate fine when looking at it with your eyes.

The other way is to have a plastic diffusion cover, like those pictures that change when you view from different angles. The premise is that if you are at an angle to the camera (which you are) then you cannot see through the diffuser to record the number plate. Or have a highly reflective cover that reflects the flash – maybe why infrared flashes are used now?

Of course, all illegal in Australia (and rightly so)

bundah 10:08 am 18 Apr 13

p1 said :

My spray about $peed camera$:

I would support them if they could increase the numbers – and therefore the revenue – to the point where rego (including insurance) became free.

bundah said :

The newer red light/speed cameras apparently have infrared flashes so they’re invisible.

I have often wondered if a heated numberplate would emit enough infrared radiation so as to appear as a washed out blob of light in such a photo….

Ha no i think it would be far more effective to have a revolving numberplate.

p1 9:56 am 18 Apr 13

My spray about $peed camera$:

I would support them if they could increase the numbers – and therefore the revenue – to the point where rego (including insurance) became free.

bundah said :

The newer red light/speed cameras apparently have infrared flashes so they’re invisible.

I have often wondered if a heated numberplate would emit enough infrared radiation so as to appear as a washed out blob of light in such a photo….

NoAddedMSG 9:33 am 18 Apr 13

JimCharles said :

What this tells me that the system isn’t working.
One of the most unfathomable ones is the Barton Highway, between Gungahlin Drive and Ellenborough Street (which is also nowhere near the red light despite being described as such).
2010 – 3600 infringements. 2011 – 4223. 2012 – 4888.

That’s a hefty increase, year on year….so it’s NOT making people slowdown.

Except that bit of road is seeing substantial increases in traffic in recent years, so you would expect more tickets anyway. To be able to claim it is not working you would need to work out the number of tickets issued per vehicle passing the camera, and see what the trend for that figure is. So if for example traffic has doubled since 2010, then you are actually looking at a positive result for the cameras because the number of tickets hasn’t doubled.

Tooks 9:17 am 18 Apr 13

Speed cameras are primarily about revenue; safety is secondary. As long as they’re spending that revenue wisely, I don’t have a problem with them.

I’ve said it time and time again: if you get caught by a speed camera you are 1) speeding (obviously) and 2) not paying attention ( which is worse than speeding).

bundah 9:03 am 18 Apr 13

@ dtc

The newer red light/speed cameras apparently have infrared flashes so they’re invisible.

But seriously the red light/speed cameras are clearly marked so how hopeless are some people?

switch 8:41 am 18 Apr 13

JimCharles said :

Bad design all round, but bloody lucrative by the looks of things.

Speaking of lucrative bad design, have the point-to-points on Hindmarsh paid for themselves yet? They’ve earned about $500k so far.

FioBla 1:19 am 18 Apr 13

^ relying on others here to check those numbers.

FioBla 1:18 am 18 Apr 13

My calculations show that all infringements (speed and red) per camera are:

2010: 893
2011: 983
2012:1062

Thanks for contributing to general revenue. Should get a Like ???? Canberra T-shirt with each payment.

JimCharles 4:27 pm 17 Apr 13

What this tells me that the system isn’t working.
One of the most unfathomable ones is the Barton Highway, between Gungahlin Drive and Ellenborough Street (which is also nowhere near the red light despite being described as such).
2010 – 3600 infringements. 2011 – 4223. 2012 – 4888. That’s a hefty increase, year on year….so it’s NOT making people slowdown.

However, my problem with this location is on the eastbound direction going towards Northbourne. I freely admit to being caught once here, my wife twice. …neither of us having had a speeding ticket or accident in the previous 25 yrs despite driving at a consistently faster speed in an environment with much more traffic and more speed camera’s than you can shake a stick at.
You turn onto Barton Highway from Gungahlin Drive, you only have about 300 metres before the right turn onto Ellenborough Street in which space you’ve got to accelerate up to quick traffic speed, feed in from the left and immediately get across 2 extra lanes of traffic to be able to slow down and get into the right hand feeder for Ellenborough Street.
You have to match or exceed the speed of the traffic (sometimes only for a moment) to safely feed into traffic flow just to get across. If you go too slow, it’s more dangerous because somebody travelling at 80 can pile in the back or you or you end up making them swerve or jam their brakes on.
It’s a really bad place for a camera because if it makes you go too slow under threat of a ticket, that can increase the risk of causing an accident and you put yourself in more danger.
Bad design all round, but bloody lucrative by the looks of things.

Rollersk8r 4:27 pm 17 Apr 13

So in conclusion: even though people very slowly learn to slow down at particular points on the road, speed cameras still make a lot of easy sweet moolah.

Antill went from around 17 fines per day in 2010, to 14 in 2011, to 9 in 2012. Just a few more years and speeding will be a thing of the past! Yeah, right.

basketcase 4:24 pm 17 Apr 13

The last three entries in that list would suggest different red light fines for different intersections, or would they be speeding fines? or maybe both?

dtc 4:01 pm 17 Apr 13

Are ‘red light’ cameras also speed cameras? That is, can we tell whether people have been busted speeding or for going through a red light?

What happened to the speed cameras in 2012 (eg on Fed Highway) – are they not working?

Also, for the technically minded – a red light camera that I go past regularly used to ‘flash’ after the light turned red every time. Now it doesnt flash at all – does this mean its not working? Looking at the stats that particular camera has dropped from over 1000 breaches in 2010 to, um, 1 in 2012. Which suggests its not working (or has been turned off), although all the physical items and signs are still there.

deye 3:49 pm 17 Apr 13

Interesting that some of the cameras listed as type “red light camera” aren’t at intersections.

Erg0 2:48 pm 17 Apr 13

I’ve never been sure about this – which side of the intersection is the high-performing Hindmarsh Dr/Ball St red light camera actually aimed at? Is it the traffic coming down Hindmarsh towards Athllon Dr?

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