Tis the season to be formal

what camera was use

And i have been building cars and hot rods since i was 15.
and own a 72 stingray

Danman
Shouldn’t th ecops
justdoing their jobin
Your got no idea of what you are talking about.
The police only target were they can make money like the school formal.
the dont can to area were there is real problems as i costs more to get a conviction.
We have road rage ,speeding,bad driving every day.
And like i said BEFORE just got to monaro high way,or the tuggernang express way and watch the speeding EVERY DAY.
SO PEOPLE THAT DO THE RIGH THING ARE SICK OF THE POLICE DOING NOTHING IN THE TROUBLE AREA.
from jim

El,
You are 100 percent correct, and I should certainly have singled out these nerds on the bumpstops.

Look, I don’t have a problem with hotting up cars, and did quite a bit of it myself through my teenage years.

Drivers of lowered and modified cars when *DONE PROPERLY* won’t generally have issues with the cops and defect notices.

Idiots who lower their cars dodgily (ie cut springs) to the point where they’re resting on the bump stops (and yes, I _have_ actually seen this more than a couple of times) are causing a danger to themselves and others by having insufficient suspension travel (not to mention *completely* arse-ing up the steering geometry) to keep any kind of decent handling/ride/steering control on the variable quality public roads.

(going round corners on two wheels = bad)

Of course, on the flip side, if the owner has invested in aftermarket lowered springs, shocks and swaybars, not to mention the huge amount of big brake stuff which has flooded onto the market, the car will handle and stop better than it ever could have in factory trim.

Just my 2c, anyway. “Do it once, do it right the first time” is great advice, IMHO.

Binker,
You are perhaps shortchanging the data that shows seatbelts do save lives. Quite simply, I believe only a mug would not wear a seatbelt whilst travelling in a motor vehicle.
To then extend this lack of solid evidence to any variation from manufacturers specification, and intimating it could cause the same serious, if not fatal result, is taking the arguement way too far.
Proponents of vehicle modification come from many sources. The majority are the younger generation, and low,loud and fast seem to be the written word.
(In my day,loud,(as in doof doof),was missing). That their vehicles are low, loud and fast, and therefore antisocial says more about our police force and their political masters than the evolution of hot cars. For heavens sake, my generation have been hotting up cars for the last 40 years. Why can’t these young blokes test their skills?

Im so over people saying “Shouldn’t th ecops be out catching criminals” etc etc

A cop is not one size fits all.

There are dedicated departments within and external to th epolice that deal with the higher issues such as drug trafficking – people trafficking for sexual exploitation – serious organised crime etc.

And then there are your beat police.

Sure they are entertwined – but each has their job to do and they do it well.

Its funny that no one ever complains when the police help them, its only when they get the short end – they then complain.

Besides – by definition of law – things you may consider petty ie defecting cars – fining for not wearing a sealtbelt – these rules are there to protect not only yourself but the wider community.

Its so juvenile to bitch an moan about guys who are justdoing their jobin protecting the community.

If you break the law – then you are a real criminal – the only difference may be in sentencing – but if you dont wear a seatbelt or drink drive – or if you import a container load of gammahydroxybutyrate your still breaking the law – no such thing as “real criminals” your either breaking the law or not. Its black and white.

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read “…useful purpose ancillary…”

“Can an example be shown that defecting a vehicle for being too low has contributed one iota to the greater wellbeing of society?”

No as you can’t prove a negative. You can’t prove that seat belts save lives. You can show a correlation between wearing of seat belts and a reduced level mortality/morbidity, you can demonstrate that crash test dummies experience an attenuation of deceleration in an accident but you can’t directly prove that seat belts save lives, as you can’t exactly repeat an accident with a person with and without a seat belt.

Presumably limitations on ride height etc are for safety purposes (being mechanically challenged I have no idea but there would be little other legitimate purpose in such regulation). Mortality/morbidity affects us all. Society invests in an individual through education health care etc and should that person die early then the return on this investment is not fully realised. Should the person not die but become disabled not only is societies investment not realised but further costs to society occur through health care and social security costs (sure the insurance company may cover some of it but it will never cover all of it).

Further, a police presence at events which involve young exuberant people, alcohol and cars (formals) in itself is likely to dampen the propensity for stupid life endangering behaviour and so serves a useful ancillary to removing unsafe vehicles from the road.

Wondering where vehicle defects are positioned in the great scheme of illegalities. Can they be proven to cause any measurable damage to the populace over and above such things as burglary, drug trafficking and car theft. The sort of things one expects police to concentrate on. Can an example be shown that defecting a vehicle for being too low has contributed one iota to the greater wellbeing of society? Do we really need a task force to be applied to these examples of individuality?

Welcome to Stanhopeless’ nanny state.

CARMER – karma of the vehicular persuasion

“just came home to check this site”

Must have been a ripper of a formal then!

I *think* (and bear in mind that I’ve read hundred’s of Jim’s comments that the rest of the world was spared after I deleted them) that Jim meant that if I had been defected it would be karmic vengeance for being so mean to him.

In Jim’s mind the whole cosmos revolves around him.

Jim also thinks it is sad that when I write about paying homage to something I’m mis-spelling “homepage”.

I particularly appreciated getting spelling tips from him.

When people can’t spell, your only help is to try saying it out loud. In this case, it should be spelt “Karma”.

No, I don’t know why this is meant to be an instance of Karma either, but then again, the brain of Jimbo is a strange and precious thing…

Who is CARMER?

As for the Year 12 formal being ‘an important night of your life’, J Dawg, I say, HAH HAH AHAH HAH HA. It is a miserable piece of crap that must be expunged from your memory with copious amounts of alcohol. Very convenient, really.

Maybe people regard their formals differently from others. Fair enough I say, considering what I said was a gross overstatement anyway.

so THATS what the line up was, and the big bunch of minis.. I saw them go past on parkes way as i was heading home.

I think you’ll find they were also nabbing people for charging for the ride without acreditation and licensing.

Hence a certain black stretch hasn’t been seen at a formal lately.

“just came home to check this site, on my way out to an after party now, cya all!”

OK, I’m impressed.

BTW Jimbo emailled me the following:

THAT’S CARMER you know what I mean
So you offer to drive your nephew to his formal and end up getting defected? Seems a little unfair.

I guess that’s what targeted policing is all about.

So I’d just like to clear up for Jim’s benefit that I wasn’t defected. In fact I wasn’t there at all. My car was, but seems to have made it back OK.

I don’t have much time for people who complain about the rules only when they’ve been impacted by them.

I thought at the time of my formal, ‘what a load of shit this fuss about how and when you arrive is. I just want to score with a hot chick, and get pissed’.’ Six years on, I still feel the same way. Unfortunately they won’t let me in.

As for the Year 12 formal being ‘an important night of your life’, J Dawg, I say, HAH HAH AHAH HAH HA. It is a miserable piece of crap that must be expunged from your memory with copious amounts of alcohol. Very convenient, really.

This was my formal tonight, It was Hawker College! What awesome fun, apart from the slack fucking photographers.

There was 2 lots of police and vehicle inspectors, one on the long haul in, and one on the way out of the car park, They nabbed so many cars tonight it wasn’t funny.

The only bad thing is, due to the police incompetence of blocking the road on the way down to pull people over, at least a 1/4 of the students came late, it was pretty much bullshit.

Still good times, And congrats to all year 12’s who finish this year.

(also Stan from 3D, He rocked as a DJ)

just came home to check this site, on my way out to an after party now, cya all!

How can these kids afford these cars/

Drug money or prostitution?

If its a defective vehicle, I couldn’t care less when or where the owner gets smacked with a clue by four.
Shouldn’t be on the road, simple as that.

What better way to arrive to one of the most important nights of your life (so far): with a few hundred dollar fine and point of your license.

I agree – but its a formal – at least get them on their way out – not while dropping people off – that said I dunno – I was not there.

It really doesn’t matter where a car is defected… if it is defected then it should not be on the (public) roads.

So you offer to drive your nephew to his formal and end up getting defected? Seems a little unfair.

I guess that’s what targeted policing is all about.