Tracer apps: a matter of how much you’re willing to trust the government

Emma Davidson 21 April 2020 50
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Does the government really need to know every location you’ve visited and who else was there? Photo: File.

Do you trust the Federal Government enough to sign up to their COVID-19 app? Emma Davidson, who has a background in private sector software development and is an ACT election candidate, argues we should have serious concerns about the Government’s intentions. What do you think?

The Federal Government is developing an app to track who a person with COVID-19 has been in contact with. Minister for Government Services Stuart Robert says it may help in easing physical distancing restrictions. But I believe there are serious privacy concerns, and that it is unlikely to reduce virus transmission.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison says that Australians can’t be trusted to tell the truth about who they’ve been in contact with, so we all need to give up our privacy to protect the community. At least 40 per cent of Australians will need to use the app to make it effective in tracing contacts.

Australians are wary of government agencies as data custodians. Millions opted out of the MyHealth record scheme in early 2019, not helped by cases like the Queensland police officer who provided a woman’s home address to her abusive ex partner.

Many Canberrans still remember George Brandis as Attorney-General in 2014 describing metadata as the name and address on an envelope, demonstrating a lack of understanding about how metadata could be used to reveal an individual’s private life.

Mr Robert was also criticised recently for blaming a MyGov website outage on a distributed denial of service attack, rather than a simple case of website failure.

Developers for the Australian Government app have looked at the source code for TraceTogether, used by 20 per cent of Singapore residents. TraceTogether uses Bluetooth to detect when two phones using the app are in close proximity, so health authorities can notify users if they have been in contact with someone who later tested positive for COVID-19.

But University of Melbourne researchers found that TraceTogether sends data to a centralised server, where it may be kept indefinitely and accessed by government agencies for other purposes.

Apple and Google have also developed a contact tracing framework. Low energy Bluetooth measures the distance between two contacts (based on signal strength) and runs in the background with less battery impact than GPS tracking.

Encrypted mobile numbers of contacts would be stored on a user’s phone for 14 days, and then deleted. If a user tells the app they have tested positive, a message could be automatically sent to recent close contacts. Unlike TraceTogether, Apple and Google’s framework does not rely on health authorities to send messages, and does not require data to be stored in a centralised database.

It is not clear whether the Australian app will use Bluetooth or GPS. If the Australian app uses GPS, it will have logs of the location of the user, and anyone else nearby – more data than is needed for contact tracing.

Robert has said the user would need to consent to health authorities using the encrypted data in the app to identify recent close contacts, indicating there may be a centralised database or a way for government agencies to decrypt data stored on phones.

With the likelihood that take-up in Australia will be lower than in Singapore, the app will not work for contact tracing. But it may convince some Australians to hand over their location data and a list of known contacts to government agencies.

If that happens, we may see fewer situations like police going through journalist Annika Smethurst’s underwear drawer or lawyer Bernard Collaery’s filing cabinet. Instead, government agencies can just check the database, and we’ll have no way of knowing what they’re accessing or how often.

While the government is having conniptions over their inability to track our movements, our community is coming together to take care of each other.

They’re setting up mutual aid groups and community pantries. They’re donating to charity organisations. They’re donating blood. They’re supporting local restaurants that have switched to takeaways. They’re calling their neighbours and family and friends to ask how they’re doing. They’re staying home. This is the Canberra I live in, and these are the people I trust to do the best we all can to reduce the spread of the virus.

I call on the ACT Chief Minister to tell the Prime Minister we won’t support the use of this app unless he can show it won’t collect any more data than is truly needed, won’t be stored in a centralised database, and can’t be decrypted by thousands of government agency employees who don’t need access to our every move.

Emma Davidson is the ACT Greens candidate for Murrumbidgee and spokesperson on democracy and community engagement.


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50 Responses to Tracer apps: a matter of how much you’re willing to trust the government
russianafroman russianafroman 12:45 pm 22 Apr 20

We should not allow fear to dictate our moves. The government is using the virus to spread fear and justify tyrannical moves which otherwise would never be accepted. Soon government tracking won’t be optional. Anyone who does any kind of cursory research would know trusting the government is a grave mistake.

    Maya123 Maya123 1:51 pm 22 Apr 20

    You are the one spreading fear, not the government.

russianafroman russianafroman 12:32 pm 22 Apr 20

Plenty of intelligent and well thought-out arguments in this section which is good to see. Despite this, it also seems there’s plenty of misinformation and naivety spreading around. If you read the article, you’d understand why most people aren’t ok with their private information being public. Seems to be an issue mostly prevalent in older folk. If you don’t mistrust the government in this day and age, you’re not paying attention. We should be constantly pressuring the government to do better. Complicity will be the death of our free society. It doesn’t take long before a government becomes tyrannical, it’s happened before, it’s currently happening, and it will happen in the future. There’s no way to reach tyranny faster than through an ignorant or complicit populace, and it seems the liberals know this. I fully support what the greens are doing to fight ignorance and an over-zealous government, and I condemn those who fail understand the evils government, world history and current politics. To give a hypothetical – as an immigrant, with perhaps slightly dodgy paperwork, would you really feel comfortable for yourself and your family knowing the Republican Party is malicious tracking your movement on a day-to-day basis? Wouldn’t think so. Canberra is clearly far too perfect of a place to the point which people have became ignorant, misinformed and naive.

Julie Macklin Julie Macklin 11:44 am 22 Apr 20

People, if the government wants to track you by your phone, they can do it now. All these conspiracy theories. Are you so important that it's worth tracking you? What illegal things are you getting up to? Many guilty consciences here perhaps. Otherwise, realise in the real world, most of you are just not important enough for the government to bother with. Many need a reality check.

Aldith Graves Aldith Graves 12:31 pm 21 Apr 20

So many very basic phones owned by seniors won’t have the capacity for an app like this. My phone can’t update apps as it asks me to delete the few ones I use for space for an update. Works for mobile calls & emergencies

    Julie Macklin Julie Macklin 1:43 pm 21 Apr 20

    I have nothing against this ap for short term use, but I wonder how it will go on my old smart phone too. Not all apps work on it. Also I am unfamiliar with how much Bluetooth uses power. I know that using data can flatten my phone, so I only turn that on when needed and then turn it off again. My phone battery would not last a day with data turned on, but with it off it would go for at least a couple of days. I wonder how much power Bluetooth needs. Anyone worried about being tracked somewhere they don't want to be tracked to, the solution is simple; turn your phone off for that trip. Although, depending where you are going, that does defeat the purpose of this app and might be unwise.

    Peter Mackay Peter Mackay 11:52 am 22 Apr 20

    I suspect that those in the criminal trade pay close attention to this anyway.

    Julie Macklin Julie Macklin 12:09 pm 22 Apr 20

    Peter Mackay And they would protest they don't want an app. All about their freedoms of course.

Peter Mackay Peter Mackay 10:22 am 21 Apr 20

So many selfish people. So sad.

websitings websitings 9:00 am 21 Apr 20

Once cash is removed from the system and our ability to maintain our privacy is removed in my mind we will have moved to a totalitarian system albeit we’ll have two dictators taking their turn to rule.

    russianafroman russianafroman 12:33 pm 22 Apr 20

    Seems strange to think of tyranny as an inevitable stage in our country’s future. Not sure why you believe this.

Fred Steele Fred Steele 8:45 am 21 Apr 20

Google and other apps just want your money, governments want to control your movements.

    Peter Mackay Peter Mackay 11:53 am 22 Apr 20

    If you have anything to do with government, you realise the reverse is true. Most governments don’t care where you go, so long as you keep sending them money.

    Fred Steele Fred Steele 12:49 pm 22 Apr 20

    Peter Mackay That seems to be false these days as the government and most gov't departments are herding all humans into pens we call towns and cities they are actively shutting down access to countryside.

Tony McKillop Tony McKillop 7:06 am 21 Apr 20

Don’t trust a government tracking app. But let Facebook, Google and Snapchat know where you are every second of the day.......

    Mathew Ryan Mathew Ryan 7:58 am 21 Apr 20

    Exactly! This. A govt app to help save lives, or one that can tell you that you're near an ice cream shop that you took a selfie at 7 years ago.

Mathew Ryan Mathew Ryan 10:42 pm 20 Apr 20

Haha, I better get to Woolies and stock up on tinfoil before the shortage. Seems to be a lot of Tim Foil Hat wearing loonies on the loose.

The only people that should fear an app that tracks who you've been on contact with are criminals, and people planning on becoming criminals.

    Ray Young Ray Young 7:49 am 21 Apr 20

    Mathew Ryan And those the govt legislate as criminals... ergo: current situation. But hey whatever you think to believe mate.

    PM Brown PM Brown 8:53 am 21 Apr 20

    Government data management resulted in robodebt, and the criminals in that case were the government.

    Craig Harrison Craig Harrison 9:34 am 21 Apr 20

    Ray Young exactly, like environmental protesters who are now thought of by this government as akin to terrorists

    Ray Young Ray Young 10:34 am 21 Apr 20

    Craig Harrison or people who walk out their home without an excuse. It is a tenuous thing "freedom" and many people don't realize how fragile it can be... if you look at it with understanding of how it hangs together and the powers of the parliament... to essentially challenge the power of the govt to pass legislation (making certain people criminals) requires the effort and initiative of someone to go to the High Court and challenge it...

    Sadly many don't have money to do so - thus just roll over.

Imogen Ebsworth Imogen Ebsworth 10:27 pm 20 Apr 20

Yeah nah.

Claire Arcorg Claire Arcorg 9:25 pm 20 Apr 20

Not 1 little bit!

I've started keeping a paper diary that notes each days interactions and outings. I will happily hand it over if/when I become infected.

Denby Angus Denby Angus 3:54 pm 20 Apr 20

I would install an app that used the approach described for the Apple and Google framework. Very sensible and low energy, preserves privacy by shedding data older than 14 days and then communicating with others directly. Very elegant lightweight solution.

    russianafroman russianafroman 12:35 pm 22 Apr 20

    Understandable. Our government is woefully inept and cannot be trusted to use our information in a way which isn’t malicious.

Joan James Joan James 3:54 pm 20 Apr 20

Barnaby Joyce refuses to use it!

    Randy Goldberg Randy Goldberg 4:16 pm 20 Apr 20

    Joan James Barnaby isn't the smartest example to use. Just remember he stated his objection to marriage equality because he believed in the sanctity of marriage then went and had an extramarital affair and fathered a child out of wedlock to a woman who was not his wife.

    He then complained he couldn't live on his salary and support both families but he's allegedly an accountant by trade.

    Should he be able to work out a budget?

    Anyway, not a reliable source for this tracing app (that the government has stated won't use geotracking).

Trish Roberts Trish Roberts 3:52 pm 20 Apr 20

It doesn't help that Stuart Robert is the Minister in charge. One of the trusted, surely? (among a bad bunch).

Pam Perkins Pam Perkins 3:06 pm 20 Apr 20

Trust No One

Mendax Worrall Mendax Worrall 3:05 pm 20 Apr 20

http://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8352-when-the-covid-19-crisis-ends-we-still-have-a-distrust-epidemic-to-deal-with-march-2020-202003270537

Michael Blythe Michael Blythe 3:03 pm 20 Apr 20

Nope. Not now, not ever. The greatest lie ever told should be enough discouragement.....”if elected, I promise.....”

grim123 grim123 3:01 pm 20 Apr 20

LOL

You’d have to be stupid to think installing this would be a good idea. Look at how often governments misuse data already. Attempting to ban and backdoor end to end encryption, and now this?

Yeah, nah. Anybody who installs this is a traitor to basic freedom and privacy of every Australian, no matter what the government is trying to dress it up as.

    JC JC 5:25 pm 20 Apr 20

    And yet we trust the likes of google, Facebook etc and all the other apps that want us to enable geolocation.

    I’m not in foil hat conspiracy theorist but I have no doubt that data from Facebook and google in particular is already shared with government already.

    And Barnaby is a fool if he thinks that his government issued phone doesn’t have some form of geolocation application on it reporting his whereabouts all the time.

    grim123 grim123 9:25 am 21 Apr 20

    If you give google and facebook permission to access your device location, you’re probably a bit ignorant as to how that data is misused. And no, phones issued by government departments don’t have geolocation tracking on at all times, or none of the several Fed Gov departments I have done work for had it as part of their MDM solution.

    It’s really not about being a “conspiracy theorist”. It is about valuing your privacy and that of others, and recognising where this kind of thing is headed. I don’t believe the government has any need at all to know my location at all times, and I certainly don’t believe they have any need to be able to read or listen to all of my communications. I believe everybody has a basic right to privacy, even for mundane daily conversations. The whole “Nothing to hide, nothing to fear” line is one taken directly from the playbook of communist China and other dictatorships. Bad enough we seem to have a community full of people willing to spy on their neighbours and inform on them to the local Stasi as if we are living in East Germany.

    russianafroman russianafroman 12:41 pm 22 Apr 20

    Well said Grim. Glad to see you’ve read into history and government. The best way to solve ignorance is through education. Continue educating those around you and perhaps tomorrow won’t be so dark.

    russianafroman russianafroman 12:39 pm 22 Apr 20

    JC, I find it ironic how you accuse people who are concerned of their privacy of being conspiracy theorists, yet you conspire that the government is probably already maliciously tracking people. If you’re complicit in such tyrannical moves by the liberal government, you’re part of the problem and frankly deserve whatever this results in. This debate is about looking at world history and realising that governments should never be trusted. If you trust government, you’re incredibly naive. Do even an ounce of research and I guarantee you’ll change face.

Kimberley Lloyd Kimberley Lloyd 2:56 pm 20 Apr 20

yet people just continually post on Facebook Complaining about the app tracking them. Think about that for a bit😂 At least the Government app will contribute to society

    JeeKay Dee JeeKay Dee 3:08 pm 20 Apr 20

    Kimberley Lloyd but you can manipulate location and privacy settings to your preference in other apps. This will not allow either.

    David Newman David Newman 4:52 pm 20 Apr 20

    JeeKay Dee, but the app doesn’t have location tracing anyway, so what’s your problem?

    Craig Harrison Craig Harrison 6:37 pm 20 Apr 20

    Kimberley Lloyd The current Australian government has locked up innocent people for 7 years and has no intention of letting them out. They have charged, tried, convicted and sentenced an Australian citizen in complete secrecy (up until accidentally discovered by a journalist). They have passed laws allowing themselves to access and keep metadata, which are then illegally accessed thousands of times. Our democracy was recently downgraded from ‘open’ to ‘narrow’.

    Facebook wants to sell you stuff.

    Not really the same thing.

    Kimberley Lloyd Kimberley Lloyd 8:05 pm 20 Apr 20

    JeeKay Dee There’s metadata behind your profile despite you saying you were in one location or checking in there is a record of where you and your phone were at the time of posting. Not visible to you visible to Facebook

    Kimberley Lloyd Kimberley Lloyd 8:08 pm 20 Apr 20

    Craig Harrison i’m talking about location services in metadata. Due to community infections with the app you will be able to track your own movements. When a case is discovered you can find out you may have been infected earlier. To find out two weeks down the track that you went to a particular site means you could have potentially passed on the infection to multiple people. This came about as everyone’s contacts were covered and they figured out how all the people and Canberra barr one got infected. That one person couldn’t remember where they’ve gone to. That is why this app is being implemented to be able to track. You can use the app to track yourself you don’t have to upload the data, that is up to you

    Kimberley Lloyd Kimberley Lloyd 8:11 pm 20 Apr 20

    JeeKay Dee you think that, but you will find that you can check in anywhere in the world but there is metadata behind your post that Face Book has access to

    JeeKay Dee JeeKay Dee 8:54 pm 20 Apr 20

    Kimberley Lloyd I understand what metadata is and how it can be used. It is difficult to maintain your privacy, but I have no desire to dilute it even further by downloading this app.

    Craig Harrison Craig Harrison 10:32 pm 20 Apr 20

    Kimberley Lloyd I know what they are saying the app is for. But for good reasons, I (and a lot of other people) don’t care to trust them

    Craig Harrison Craig Harrison 10:35 pm 20 Apr 20

    Kimberley Lloyd besides, from all I’ve read the app wont work the way you describe it.

    Kimberley Lloyd Kimberley Lloyd 9:40 am 21 Apr 20

    JeeKay Dee Yet you post on Facebook which is recording the same information that the government needs to know if you were in the area where an exposed case was present. Wouldn’t you want to know? Wouldn’t you want to contribute? You get to delete it when it’s all over. Are you deleting Facebook when it’s all over?

    JeeKay Dee JeeKay Dee 9:44 am 21 Apr 20

    Why the need for a new app then? If this data is already being collected, use that.

Leanne Hermes Leanne Hermes 2:23 pm 20 Apr 20

I won't be downloading the app. I don't trust the government at all.

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