Trendy Tongue and Groove gets a one day liquor ban

That was the point I was making Jazz. Champagne is Champagne and sparking wine is something diferent all together.

You can also by sparkling wine at tongue and groove for far less than $100 a bottle

well, I guess it depends on what you are after in aspiring suitors. Sleazy, old, with a tendnecy to spike your drinks? Look around on a thursday friday or saturday, you’ll find them. I try to advise ladies to avoid those ones. I see it fairly often, maybe you need to change venues!

Why is it then I can never find these ‘aspiring suitors’ to buy me a round? And definitely not when I was 17, and youthful and bubbly and stuff.

Prices are not that hideous, there are worse in bars / restaurants.
Depends what you are into I guess. Sadly, I don’t think there would be a shortage of aspiring suitors offering to buy them a round.

The inspectors and two police constables later found the girls inside with a group of other teenagers drinking champagne

It also leads me to believe that these weren’t just some schoolies out on a drunken spree. Champagne in a place like that would surely set you back at least $100 a bottle!

“The inspectors and two police constables later found the girls inside with a group of other teenagers drinking champagne.”

This leads me to think they would not have returned the BAC of 0.0

Would not the girls have returned a BAC of 0.0 and then been in the clear?

Surely someone must have set up a Facebook group to protest this horrendous injustice imposed on those poor girls?

Change it up, if the girls had gone to a restaurant for a friends 18th, with their parents, and had empty glasses in front of them, would they have been escorted off the premises?
And if they were there with parental / guardian supervision, and had not done anything wrong, would the guardians not have suggested the error in judgement to the police?
Just a thought, but if I was responsible for someone and they were taken to a police station without reason, I would arc up.

…it’s perfectly legal for mum and dad to give you a drink at home, but not in public.

That’s the bit I have a problem with Fiona. When did that become illegal? I can never recall an instance from my childhood where drinking wine with my parents in bar, cafe or restaurant was an issue. Now it seems illegal. If that is the case I have no intention of complying with such a stupid law when my children are oin their late teens.

My point, still, is that if they were in the care of a responsible adult there is no issue. And I would suggest if that was the case, there would be no shut down. T&G have a reasonable amount behind them, and with their industry experience wouldn’t cop the fines, for 14 underage kids, and the ban. Although, not sure if it was one or the other. If it was my pub, I’d definitely rather close on a Friday for 24 hours, than pay the fines for 14 under 18’s. Pocket change in comparison.

Clown Killer said :

This is all a bit bizzare. The other week we have an underage girl who was fully liquored in a bar and there’s no penalty because someone could apparently vouch for being her responsible adult, and now we have a venue penalised because a group of underage girls accompanied by parents of some of the girls are having a glass of champagne.

+1 – How is this situation worse than the other?
To me, this is a BETTER situation as the girls parents (legal guardians) are there, not someone who just “happens to know an underage person willing to take responsibility”.

Surely a group of girls (yes some of them were underage) with a some parents sitting in the dining area of the place should be less of an issue than an extremely underage girl passed out in the backroom of a bar?

Maybe I should have explained better. They had only been in there for 20 odd mins – just sat down – The champagne glasses were already on the table. And I assume they probably did plan to drink during the evening and the parents should have known better. However the way that it was handled (at least 5 policemen escorting these 14 girls) seemed a little outrageous.

@CK – it’s perfectly legal for mum and dad to give you a drink at home, but not in public.

Pandy said :

Minkey closing or renovating?

I love that term. Almost always the kiss of death in hospitality.

Minque is closing Pandy. (Well according to CT it is anyway)

Minkey closing or renovating?

layne said :

This is a joke. I was eating there on said evening. These 14 young girls were out for one of their birthdays (I’d guess 18th) and were sitting in the dining area WITH the girls parents, eating and not drinking. They got done because they had empty champagne glasses infront of them. It caused quite a scene – ruined that poor girls birthday.

Fair enough that they shouldn’t of been there (and that girls parents should have known better) but the fact that the police took them all to the station is ridiculous.

If they were there with there parents, and not drinking, and there parents were what would be deemed responsible adults than there would be no cause for concern by liquor licencing.
In the venue I work at, last week we had an underage act performing, and some of her friends came also under 18, with their parents. While we policed them carefully (just in case), there is no issue with liquor licencing if this occurs.
The case (@T&G) in point was an 18th, the bar knew it was an 18th birthday party, and to not keep a close eye on those attending would fall into the category of poor form in bar management in my opinion.

layne said :

This is a joke. I was eating there on said evening. These 14 young girls were out for one of their birthdays (I’d guess 18th) and were sitting in the dining area WITH the girls parents, eating and not drinking. They got done because they had empty champagne glasses infront of them. It caused quite a scene – ruined that poor girls birthday.

Fair enough that they shouldn’t of been there (and that girls parents should have known better) but the fact that the police took them all to the station is ridiculous.

So they weren’t drinking but had empty champagne glasses in front them. Um, ok…

This is all a bit bizzare. The other week we have an underage girl who was fully liquored in a bar and there’s no penalty because someone could apparently vouch for being her responsible adult, and now we have a venue penalised because a group of underage girls accompanied by parents of some of the girls are having a glass of champagne.

I grew up in Melbourne and from when I was around 15 my parents would always allow me wine with meals if I wanted it, including when we were dining out and it was never an issue – has something changed since the early 80s.

I didn’t see it motleychick but thanks for the info.

Time will tell and surely a difference will be felt in the City if they continue to crack down and target excessive drinking.

tick tock

layne said :

This is a joke. I was eating there on said evening. These 14 young girls were out for one of their birthdays (I’d guess 18th) and were sitting in the dining area WITH the girls parents, eating and not drinking. They got done because they had empty champagne glasses infront of them. It caused quite a scene – ruined that poor girls birthday.

Fair enough that they shouldn’t of been there (and that girls parents should have known better) but the fact that the police took them all to the station is ridiculous.

why did they have empty champagne glasses in front of them if they hadn’t drunk out of them? don’t tell me because they drank something non-alcoholic out of them but they wanted to look all growed-up because i will vomit. sounds like a little bit of irresponsible parenting/chaperoning here. rulez iz rulez – it is a licenced premises.

layne said :

This is a joke. I was eating there on said evening. These 14 young girls were out for one of their birthdays (I’d guess 18th) and were sitting in the dining area WITH the girls parents, eating and not drinking. They got done because they had empty champagne glasses infront of them. It caused quite a scene – ruined that poor girls birthday.

Fair enough that they shouldn’t of been there (and that girls parents should have known better) but the fact that the police took them all to the station is ridiculous.

Ridiculous but very amusing!

Nosey if you saw the CT on the weekend you would have noticed that they have done quite a few places – like Academy, Minque (which is now closing down), Lot 33, etc. Seems to me like they are cracking down.

Seems to me the liqour licencing office go after the easy ones they believe will get either a fine or closed for a period of time.

IMHO, its places like ICBM and Meche that should be targetted.

The responsible service of alcohol at those places is non existent and appears to hard for the liqour licencing office to catch and punish.

This is a joke. I was eating there on said evening. These 14 young girls were out for one of their birthdays (I’d guess 18th) and were sitting in the dining area WITH the girls parents, eating and not drinking. They got done because they had empty champagne glasses infront of them. It caused quite a scene – ruined that poor girls birthday.

Fair enough that they shouldn’t of been there (and that girls parents should have known better) but the fact that the police took them all to the station is ridiculous.

johnboy said :

Well, I doubt the teenagers were paying for their drinks.

With cash at least.

+1

johnboy said :

Well, I doubt the teenagers were paying for their drinks.

With cash at least.

Zing!

Would have loved to see them cop the full 4 weekends ban as originally chardged

Well, I doubt the teenagers were paying for their drinks.

With cash at least.

i’m amazed the teens could afford to drink in there. that place is a rip!

I find it interesting how I get ID’d wherever I go, and if me or my friends don’t have ID they won’t let us in, yet underage people can get in. I guess it pays to know the bouncers.