18 July 2024

'Utter confusion': Big question mark over patient numbers at nurse-led Walk-in Centres

| Claire Fenwicke
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There are five nurse-led Walk-in Centres in Canberra, located in Belconnen, Tuggeranong, Dickson, Weston (pictured) and Gungahlin. Photo: Claire Fenwicke.

Questions have been raised over the ability of the ACT Government to track the effectiveness of its nurse-led Walk-in Centres due to the existence of different data sets.

Shadow Health Minister Leanne Castley made a freedom of information (FOI) request regarding patient numbers for the clinics following an April motion from Labor backbencher Suzanne Orr calling for all political parties to continue backing the model.

The information had been requested in preparation for debate on that motion.

She said it revealed “utter confusion” between the ACT Health Directorate (ACTHD) and Canberra Health Services (CHS) over the data and showed the centres were a “shambles”.

“The huge divergence in Walk-in Centre figures also appears to be another case of the Digital Health Record data not being reliable,” Ms Castley said.

The documents showed that, according to the ACTHD, throughput between 1 July 2023 and 31 March 2024 was 93,246.

CHS data counted 104,533.

Within the documents, one senior CHS official noted there were “different data sets flying around” and suggested that just directly requesting data from the ACTHD would be more effective.

“It is not efficient for us to do work and get this info for ACTHD to then come over the top and provide something different,” he wrote.

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Another senior CHS official stated she felt the numbers from the ACTHD were the “cleansed and accurate data”.

“Numbers [CHS] provide may be inaccurate due to patient inclusions which may not be correct,” she wrote.

The email chain ultimately concluded that while there were two existing data sets, the ACTHD numbers should be relied upon, given that data was also used for national reporting.

Neither data set ended up being used during the April Assembly debate.

An ACT Government spokesperson stated the difference came down to raw data and processed data.

“The figures for the number of presentations at Walk-in Centres [WiC] differ as they were pulled from different systems which are used for different purposes,” they said.

“Data related to WiC presentations provided by ACTHD is drawn from the ACTHD data repository from the non-admitted patient collection … WiC data from CHS is provided from a Digital Health Record report from the clinical-facing system and is front-end operational data.

“There are some differences in the presentations that are counted for the purposes of funding (these include only patients who have been provided a service) and for reporting on total presentations to Walk-in-Centres from the perspective of the front-line clinic staff, including counting patients re-presenting to collect results of pathology and counting patients who presented but left without being seen, or who did not wait to be seen by a nurse.”

They also pointed out the CHS data included an extra nine days (counted from 1 July 2023 to 9 April 2024).

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It’s the latest in a series of arguments between the government and the Opposition over the centres.

During the July Assembly sitting period, the Canberra Liberals accused Labor of not being upfront about the true cost of the service.

The government claimed it cost $110 per presentation, while Ms Castley argued other FOI documents showed it was close to $200.

“It is clear [Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith’s] credibility on Walk-in Centres is in tatters, and it is incomprehensible that she is unable or unwilling to provide reliable information to Canberrans about how much the centres cost, how many people are using them and how many patients are then referred elsewhere,” she said.

ACT election independent candidates called for a review of the model as a result of that debate.

“The government has opened themselves up to requiring further scrutiny by publishing misleading statistics about the taxpayer cost per visit … the first step is to apply some independent scrutiny and accountability,” Independents for Canberra Yerrabi candidate David Pollard previously stated.

Murrumbidgee independent candidate Fiona Carrick also said there should be some sort of audit.

“Walk-in Centres are popular with the electorate; however, after 13 years of operation, there should be a review of their performance,” she said.

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They seem to be very handy, especially for people with children. However they don’t eliminate visits to GP or Emergency entirely. I and my family have at times been directed to Emergency. It’s hard for non-medical people to diagnose when an ED visit is needed.

Hire doctors and put them in these centres, and they will be even more popular!

Rupert Samuel9:45 am 19 Jul 24

Hear! Hear! I love the walk-in centres, they are terrific. But why not go one step further if it’s required?

A bulk-billed after hours doctors service would be a godsend for the people of Canberra and their emergency departments.

Seeing how the buildings and infrastructure already exist, this seems a logical, incremental step.

differing perspective4:54 pm 18 Jul 24

The Digital Health Record is not reliable……whoever would have thought. Reporting anomalies are one thing, but one wonders about the more alarming impact it may be having on delivery of clinical services

I don’t understand what point Ms Castley is making. Even the lowest figure shows more than 90,000 presentations at these clinics in a nine month period. That shows there is a need for these centres. It means 90,000 Canberrans who needed medical advice, stayed away from the emergency departments. It also meant those who could not afford to pay for a doctor, could get some sort of help. Is Ms Castley saying these people should not have had this option? She needs to be careful, that in her rush to find fault with the existing government, she doesn’t close her eyes and ears to the needs of many Canberrans who have limited access to health care.

Nonsense. These walk in clinics did not stop a single emergency department visit. People don’t go to a walk in clinic for emergencies.

The fact that it takes a FOI request to get information that should be available to the public is a joke. She is doing her job looking into these clinics.

Nobody said they shouldn’t exist, but there should absolutely be transparency and value for money. If each visit costs taxpayers more than visiting an actual doctor, that needs to be fixed. It won’t be fixed without the opposition making it public, because ACT Labor have no issue at all with irresponsibly wasting taxpayers money until it might lose them votes.

No, they don’t go to walk in clinics for emergencies, but they do go to emergency departments for non emergencies when they feel they don’t have other options. Not every one has the money for a GP and there are very few GPs that bulk bill.

Of course they stopped emergency department visits. Half the issue with ED waiting times are the lower triaged patients. Cat 1 and 2 are being seen at or around Australian average times. Its all the minor stuff that could be either done by a GP or at the Nurse walk in center that are pushing out the ED waiting times. So most of these visits are helping the ED, because they are free vs the GP which is $100 these days. I certainly go to the nurse centres if i’m not sure and know my life isn’t under threat. I slipped in the shower once had blood pouring out of a toe, the nurses cleaned it up and said no need for stitches then sent me off for an xray for which I bypassed ED completely. too many people put their own political bias ahead of reality these days.

The point she’s making is they provided 2 numbers that are more than 10,000 difference. Is somebody just making them up or why are they different.

Especially as these are very basic statistics which should be reportable within about 5 minutes of being requested. It’s not a difficult question, “how many patients did you see this week/month/year?”

yes. A wonderful service being subject to childish political nitpicking

@Ian, so you have never been involved in gross data collection for statistical purposes. Thanks for the news.

@Elf, because one of the differently sourced data sets is judged more reliable than the other? If the data is sound give or take 5% then what discretionary expenditure do you believe should be made for a more accurate figure on this specific topic, and with what end compared with, for example, capacity utilisation based on load and wait times?

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