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Whole hundreds cry out for a pedestrian crossing at Trinity Christian School

By johnboy - 26 November 2013 42

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We’re still waiting to hear back from Trinity Christian School about their disabled parking arrangements.

But more recently, this time last month, the Liberals started making noise about their desire for a pedestrian crossing over McBryde Crescent.

One of our readers had some interesting things to say on the subject:

#3 taninaus
7:53 am, 25 Oct 13

drove past there yesterday, there is a perfectly good underpass at one end of the school – but of course that is too hard to use and ensure the kids get across the road safely! the Gov has also put a pedestrian island at the other end to help crossing the road. As always the major threat to the children’s safety at these peak times is OTHER PARENTS!! it is amazing how selfish and irresponsible parents dropping kids off can be – most are OK but some need serious education on safety.

Indeed in the above picture one can see that bulletproof underpass just tens of metres to the east of the school.

One might in fact think it would be within the wit of the school to funnel children that way if need be.

But today the Liberals’ Nicole Lawder is returning to the plate for another swing at bat.

Today the Canberra Liberals renewed calls for a pedestrian crossing to be built at Trinity Christian School in Wanniassa after a petition was presented to the ACT Legislative Assembly.

“Today the first ever e-petition was presented to the Assembly, calling for a proper pedestrian crossing to be built over McBryde Crescent, adjacent to Trinity Christian School in Wanniassa,” Member for Brindabella Nicole Lawder said today.

“I’m calling on Shane Rattenbury to back the concerns of staff and parents and tell the Assembly that he’ll support this long overdue crossing by the end of the sitting week.

“While other jurisdictions are implementing the Canberra Liberals 2012 election policy to install flashing lights in all school zones, the ACT Government is lagging behind and cannot even guarantee a pedestrian crossing at a major school on Canberra’s south side.

“Hundreds of concerned residents have taken the time to sign this important e-petition and the Government has no excuse but to improve the safety of children and give parents peace of mind by building this school crossing.

“It is critical that this issue is dealt with as a matter of urgency. Children need to be safe when crossing the road,” Ms Lawder concluded.


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42 Responses to
Whole hundreds cry out for a pedestrian crossing at Trinity Christian School
Robertson 11:21 am 27 Nov 13

IrishPete said :

Robertson said :

johnboy said :

I love private schools.

Shame we don’t have any in the ACT.

We have government funded schools that only privileged children can attend (and I speak as an alumnus of one of the most privileged).

Nice work for some but not actually relevant to this issue.

As for Liberals I’m very fond of many of them.

Every child that attends a private school costs the taxpayer significantly less than if it went to a public school.
Additionally, as was proven during the “school halls project”, every dollar given to a private school goes *waaaaay* further and is *faaar* more efficiently used than if it went to a public school.

In short, the taxpayer funding children to attend private schools saves the taxpayer lots of money.

When private schools stop expelling difficult kids they will earn a little more respect from me (fom a very low base admittedly). It’s easy to be efficient and effective if you throw out the time-consuming kids for the public system to pick up.

By the way, how many child abuse cases arise in public schools compared with private ones? There’s a lovely hidden cost of the private system.

IP

I’m not aware they do expel “difficult” children. My daughter was being physically attacked by a girl on a daily basis in her private school. (When I eventually heard about it and asked her about it, she just said, “It’s OK, she’s not very strong”). No expulsion.

Looks like Irishpete is making stuff up to justify his peculiar beliefs.

Meanwhile, it is an established fact that private schools enforce discipline AND (presumably as a result) have far fewer cases of racism or physical abuse than public schools.

My local public high school is a lawless academic desert, with barely 20% of them ever attaining a Year12 certificate. As I would like to give my children a chance, I therefore send them to a school that can demonstrate it enforces standards of behaviour and achieves academic results.
Almost 50% of Canberra children are now in the private education sector as a result of the failings the public has observed in public schools, failings that are the direct result of woolly-headed ideological thinking the likes of which irishpete displays here on a daily basis.
I refuse to send my children to a school for them to play second fiddle while all the resources are being expended pandering to the behavioural needs of the un-educated and un-disciplined offspring of scum.

IrishPete 11:07 am 27 Nov 13

Robertson said :

johnboy said :

I love private schools.

Shame we don’t have any in the ACT.

We have government funded schools that only privileged children can attend (and I speak as an alumnus of one of the most privileged).

Nice work for some but not actually relevant to this issue.

As for Liberals I’m very fond of many of them.

Every child that attends a private school costs the taxpayer significantly less than if it went to a public school.
Additionally, as was proven during the “school halls project”, every dollar given to a private school goes *waaaaay* further and is *faaar* more efficiently used than if it went to a public school.

In short, the taxpayer funding children to attend private schools saves the taxpayer lots of money.

When private schools stop expelling difficult kids they will earn a little more respect from me (fom a very low base admittedly). It’s easy to be efficient and effective if you throw out the time-consuming kids for the public system to pick up.

By the way, how many child abuse cases arise in public schools compared with private ones? There’s a lovely hidden cost of the private system.

IP

Watson 10:55 am 27 Nov 13

Watson said :

“… the first ever e-petition” Ooh, ladida. That’s what the media release seems to be about. A bunch of people signed a petition that they probably didn’t even read nor thought about because the only effort it took was to enter their email address and click a button.

I do think that every school needs to have a school crossing. Which is only active when it needs to be.

I once asked Roads for a zebra crossing near our primary school and was told that the school drop-off/pick-up traffic didn’t justify slowing traffic down 24/7. I can kind of see what they mean, though I know a lot of examples in the Inner North where that rule was broken. There are heaps of zebra crossings there – sometimes in spots with fairly poor visibility – that hardly get used even at peak times. Or that pedestrian light at the Christian school on Antil St. There’s a light AND a school zone that goes for all of 20 metres. WTF?

I with they would make their rules more consistent and then stick to them and not give in to the biggest wingers.

And I totally agree that it is usually a minority of lazy, selfish, inconsiderate parents who create the traffic problem in the first place by parking in stupid spots and driving too fast in their big SUVs. I have been itching to tell the next parent I see park illegally right in front of the school entrance that “I’m so sorry about your child’s serious illness. It must be terrible that they cannot walk even 10 metres.”

Sorry about the typos. “I wish they would make their rules more consistent and then stick to them and not give in to the biggest whingers.”

Not sure what wingers are…

Watson 10:51 am 27 Nov 13

“… the first ever e-petition” Ooh, ladida. That’s what the media release seems to be about. A bunch of people signed a petition that they probably didn’t even read nor thought about because the only effort it took was to enter their email address and click a button.

I do think that every school needs to have a school crossing. Which is only active when it needs to be.

I once asked Roads for a zebra crossing near our primary school and was told that the school drop-off/pick-up traffic didn’t justify slowing traffic down 24/7. I can kind of see what they mean, though I know a lot of examples in the Inner North where that rule was broken. There are heaps of zebra crossings there – sometimes in spots with fairly poor visibility – that hardly get used even at peak times. Or that pedestrian light at the Christian school on Antil St. There’s a light AND a school zone that goes for all of 20 metres. WTF?

I with they would make their rules more consistent and then stick to them and not give in to the biggest wingers.

And I totally agree that it is usually a minority of lazy, selfish, inconsiderate parents who create the traffic problem in the first place by parking in stupid spots and driving too fast in their big SUVs. I have been itching to tell the next parent I see park illegally right in front of the school entrance that “I’m so sorry about your child’s serious illness. It must be terrible that they cannot walk even 10 metres.”

Robertson 10:18 am 27 Nov 13

johnboy said :

I love private schools.

Shame we don’t have any in the ACT.

We have government funded schools that only privileged children can attend (and I speak as an alumnus of one of the most privileged).

Nice work for some but not actually relevant to this issue.

As for Liberals I’m very fond of many of them.

Every child that attends a private school costs the taxpayer significantly less than if it went to a public school.
Additionally, as was proven during the “school halls project”, every dollar given to a private school goes *waaaaay* further and is *faaar* more efficiently used than if it went to a public school.

In short, the taxpayer funding children to attend private schools saves the taxpayer lots of money.

Robertson 10:15 am 27 Nov 13

I have a MUCH better idea: make the East-bound lane of McBryde a red-kerb “No Stopping” zone. If people want to pick up their children by car, they can approach the school from the Westbound lane. This will also ease traffic flow in the area.

thebrownstreak69 10:07 am 27 Nov 13

chewy14 said :

johnboy said :

I love private schools.

Shame we don’t have any in the ACT.

We have government funded schools that only privileged children can attend (and I speak as an alumnus of one of the most privileged).

Nice work for some but not actually relevant to this issue.

As for Liberals I’m very fond of many of them.

You must have a very low bar of what you consider a “privileged child” in the ACT then.

Quite a few of those private schools are a few thousand dollars a year in fees. I went to one and my parents earned significantly less than the average wage.

+1. There are plenty of private schools that don’t cater to the privileged market.

Personally I’ve always though that privileged private schools are a waste of money when good public schools and inexpensive private schools are available. Knowing quite a few people who attended privileged private schools, the career outcomes of the individuals weren’t helped at all by attending.

Erg0 9:33 am 27 Nov 13

chewy14 said :

How about they simply build a fence to stop the kids crossing wherever they want?

That’s what they’re doing for the staff at Canberra Hospital…

chewy14 9:30 am 27 Nov 13

johnboy said :

I love private schools.

Shame we don’t have any in the ACT.

We have government funded schools that only privileged children can attend (and I speak as an alumnus of one of the most privileged).

Nice work for some but not actually relevant to this issue.

As for Liberals I’m very fond of many of them.

You must have a very low bar of what you consider a “privileged child” in the ACT then.

Quite a few of those private schools are a few thousand dollars a year in fees. I went to one and my parents earned significantly less than the average wage.

johnboy 9:12 am 27 Nov 13

I love private schools.

Shame we don’t have any in the ACT.

We have government funded schools that only privileged children can attend (and I speak as an alumnus of one of the most privileged).

Nice work for some but not actually relevant to this issue.

As for Liberals I’m very fond of many of them.

banco 11:44 pm 26 Nov 13

Skidbladnir said :

For the sake of pattern-referencing for discussion’s sake, based on memory rather than facts:

Melrose High @ Pearce (public school, close to underpass, relatively busy intra-suburb road) has a zebra pedestrian crossing.
Marist @ Pearce (same road as Melrose, opposite side of the underpass) has a school crossing.
Canberra College @ Woden (major roads everywhere, underpass at the storm drain) has no zebra crossing, but has crossings at lights.
Fadden Primary (underpass, intra-suburb) has a pedestrian crossing.
Holy Family @ Gowrie (Busy roads everywhere, two underpasses, no zebras)

Johnboy is dismissive of Trinity’s request because he doesn’t like private schools and he likes the Libs even less.

chewy14 10:34 pm 26 Nov 13

How about they simply build a fence to stop the kids crossing wherever they want?

Surely the underpass and a zebra crossing would be sufficient?

savoman 4:36 pm 26 Nov 13

And yet the govey can build a costly overpass which orange paint fell off over drakeford drive not 100 metres from new barrade protection crossing near the kambah super school. Or for that matter look at traffic deversion down Inkster cres kambah after a petition from 12 concerned residents…

Deref 4:18 pm 26 Nov 13

Clearly their faith is insufficient. Daniel 5:27.

Skidbladnir 2:51 pm 26 Nov 13

For the sake of pattern-referencing for discussion’s sake, based on memory rather than facts:

Melrose High @ Pearce (public school, close to underpass, relatively busy intra-suburb road) has a zebra pedestrian crossing.
Marist @ Pearce (same road as Melrose, opposite side of the underpass) has a school crossing.
Canberra College @ Woden (major roads everywhere, underpass at the storm drain) has no zebra crossing, but has crossings at lights.
Fadden Primary (underpass, intra-suburb) has a pedestrian crossing.
Holy Family @ Gowrie (Busy roads everywhere, two underpasses, no zebras)

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