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What part of “No junk mail” doesn’t the Chronicle understand?

By 16 February 2010 58

Rioters,

My front-yard is constantly (weekly) being bombarded by the Chronicle being tossed on it.  Fortunately the delivery date coincides with bin day.  I pick up the Chronicle from the front yard every week, put it in the bin and that’s that.  Job done.

I never subscribed to the Chronicle, I never read the Chronicle, and I don’t want the Chronicle.  Moreover, my mail box clearly displays “No junk” mail, and yet the Chronicle is delivered.

I notice that some people have a “No junk mail, but please deliver the Chronicle” sticker.  Where can you get these?  I would like to modify one somewhat…

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58 Responses to What part of “No junk mail” doesn’t the Chronicle understand?
#1
Steve_Pedestrian3:28 pm, 16 Feb 10

I have had this same argument with The Chronicle. The person delivering it drives around in a car with their arm out the window throwing it where ever they liked without noticing the ‘No Junk Mail’ sign.

I rang the call centre 3 times and was told each time that ‘if you have a No Junk Mail sign that it shouldn’t be delivered’. After continual delivery, I got onto someone via e-mail to cease the delivery. After being assured it would not be, it continued to arrive until a harsher e-mail was sent which led to it not being delivered again.

#2
Frug3:35 pm, 16 Feb 10

I rang CT asking them to stop delivering the chronicle but they told me that wasn’t possible. Is that just littering then?

#3
p13:56 pm, 16 Feb 10

I have often had the suspicion that their advertising charges are tied to the number they deliver, so it benefits them to ignore them…

When I was fourteen and delivered the chronical to on my pushbike, I was instructed not to deliver to no junk mail letterboxs. But then, I was specifically banned from tossing them on the lawn too, which has clearly changed.

Does anyone else here find that the wonderful plastic coating they put on the paper doesn’t actually seem to keep it dry from even the lightest rain? Or is that just my driveway, where it lands to be run over at least once each week?

/end rant

#4
Fiona3:58 pm, 16 Feb 10

Mine’s respected. *shrugs* Ring and complain. It gets back to the junk mail people if there’s a few complaints.

#5
Holden Caulfield4:01 pm, 16 Feb 10

Hear, hear.

The Chronicle used to deliver itself once every two months, so it didn’t used to be so bad. However, lately it has been delivered reliably once a week. I don’t want it and never have!

#6
basketcase4:02 pm, 16 Feb 10

I like the Chronicle and look forward to its weekly delivery. No way would I call it junk mail.

What is it that you find objectionable in the Chronicle?

#7
hellspice4:17 pm, 16 Feb 10

a sticker on the letter box won’t work if ends up on your lawn, but getting to the root of the problem, why the hate ? the chronicle is all class :)

#8
M0les4:39 pm, 16 Feb 10

I think the problem lies in the definition of “Junk Mail”. Some might claim there’s desirable information in the Cronicle, rather than being purely advertisisng (So the politer “No advertising material” is also ruled-out as a letterbox sticker).

It gets a bit verbose if you want to have broad and precise directions about what you want to be delivered:
“No unsolicited deliveries”
“No unaddressed deliveries” (“To the householder” is cheating)
“No Junk mail, advertising material or other similar spam including free newspapers and magazines such-as the Cronicle”

… Then you’ve got to trust the deliverers care to follow your wishes – good luck with that!

#9
niftydog4:43 pm, 16 Feb 10

The only thing that works is to ring them up and complain. It took me five phone calls over a few months before it sunk in, but I haven’t seen a Chronicle on my drive for several months now.

They sell advertising based on their distribution, so the more they can claim are being read the better off they are. Naturally this makes them reluctant to stop delivering it.

#10
deezagood4:51 pm, 16 Feb 10

I think there is probably a misinterpretation of the term ‘junk’ (but I agree with your definition by-the-way).

#11
gospeedygo5:10 pm, 16 Feb 10

Try this fellows approach

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8326992@N08/2763560787/

(can one hotlink photos here?)

#12
cross5:23 pm, 16 Feb 10

The Chronicle is often done by children,disabled or retired people to earn
a little cash or donate the money and sometimes provides the only paper many elderly and non mobile people receive. A lot of people with no junk mail are happy to get the Chronicle as they don’t consider it junk or mail.
So if this is the worst thing to happen to you in your week you are very lucky. Maybe you should take along hard look at yourself.

#13
Sammy5:37 pm, 16 Feb 10

I’ve always wondered what gives the Chronicle deliverers the right to drive around throwing copies (roughly) at peoples homes. If I drove around in my car throwing plastic wrapped paper at every house that I passed, i’d be charged with littering.

#14
LlamaFrog5:38 pm, 16 Feb 10

Is this really the biggest problem in your life?

#15
Eby5:38 pm, 16 Feb 10

If you care that much, complain directly to the Chronicle.

You must have a pretty small yard if the Chronicle is managing to ‘bombard’ it.

#16
NeedHelp5:49 pm, 16 Feb 10

Possible explanation. The Chronicle is being delivered by vehicle, ie thrown onto each lawn as they pass, and not reading what is on your letterbox. Now that the Chronicle is covered in plastic, SOME delivery folk don’t seem to be bothered with actually placing them in letterboxes.

Some Chronicle deliverers choose to walk, for fitness sake, but there are the lazy buggers who do it all by vehicle if they have left their deliveries too late.

The Chronicle is out on a Tuesday and they have until Thursday 5pm to deliver it to their allocated residential streets. If they decide to slack off, they may just think it’s quicker using their vehicle with the drive-chuck-drive-chuck approach.

You can get the Chronicle stickers from the Chronicle or the area delivery manager. Call the Chronicle office via the Canberra Times switchboard and tell them what you need.

Hope that helps.

PS I always spare a thought for the Chronicle deliverers. In many years, I’ve never missed out on my copy. They work for a pittance and kudos to them.

#17
Tooks6:07 pm, 16 Feb 10

I imagine they don’t consider their publication to be junk mail. I don’t read the thing either, but I don’t really miss the 3 seconds of my life it takes to put it in the recycling bin every week.

#18
benita_4496:16 pm, 16 Feb 10

Yes I agree – their deliverers are either incapable of reading English, or completely incompetent. They ignore ‘No junk mail’ signs and anything similar, and simply deliver or throw their rubbish newspapers wherever they please. In a nearby busy street, the deliverers were continuing to deliver to houses despite 3 copies of the paper from previous weeks still lying uncollected on their nature strips! I know it’s the resident’s responsibility to pick them up, but should they have to? Regardless, the deliverers shouldn’t be continuing to deliver to a house that clearly isn’t interested in receiving it. Doing so effectively becomes littering on a massive scale. I called The Chronicle (effectively the Canberra Times as they are sister publications) and requested the delivery manager put a stop to the practice. They didn’t bother. So I used my evening walk to collect every copy delivered in all nearby streets and dumped all of them in the trash! heheheh 2 can play at this game……

#19
bohaty6:24 pm, 16 Feb 10

The chronicle is finding it harder and harder to find people willing to deliver it by walking,
that is why many deliver the chronicle by tossing it out of the car while driving at speed.
I got No junk mail too on my letterbox, but you cant read/see it if your behind the wheel of a car:-)
So unfortunately the problem wont get any better unless chronicle make people deliver
it the old fashioned way by getting fit. Delivering the chronicle ain’t for making money,
its really about the exercise, isn’t it? You should live in Curtin, they still deliver it by walking.

#20
anticodon6:52 pm, 16 Feb 10

It’s a community newspaper. Is the Telegraph or Canberra Times junk mail? Make sure you save the front page each week to wipe away your tears…

#21
swamiOFswank7:02 pm, 16 Feb 10

This is one of my pet-hates too, and like you, delivery day coincides with recycling day. A long time ago I called the CT once about it, and their response was to put up a ‘no chronicle’ sign and/or speak to the delivery person – which would be fine if I ever caught the buggers dumping this rubbish on my nature strip.

I wonder how many go from lawn to bin in one swift movement?

#22
Spectra7:32 pm, 16 Feb 10

Dude. Chill.

Your definition of “junk” clearly includes anything unsolicited – that’s fine, but “junk” is an extremely vague term. It could equally be taken to mean “material that contains only advertising” which clearly wouldn’t cover The Chronicle (regardless of what you might think of the standard of reporting). I’ll guarantee you there is no legal definition of the term.

If you had a “No Unsolicited Material” sticker, well then then that’s pretty clear. You, however, have chosen a sign with nice vague terminology and when people don’t follow your interpretation you seem to take it as a personal slight and immediately jump on the internet and complain? Is this really so significant a problem that it’s worth spending time on? You have almost as little life as those of us who spend time replying to you ;)

#23
TP 30008:27 pm, 16 Feb 10

There are some slack junk mail delivery people as I use to deliver The Chronicle & I would see the same paper from 2 weeks ago in the letter box. However those in charge of delivering the Woolies/Coles/Rest would pile the new junk mail on top of the old news paper. I however would just leave that house & I would always have an extra 30-50 left over afterwards of no junk mail homes & would just toss them in the recycling bins. Nobody ever checks up on the number of papers you delivered & the suburb coordinators didn’t care.

If you wish to inquire about who is delivering The Chronicler in your area, have a look in the job classifieds of the paper, usually every suburb has places going & the contact of that suburb coordinator.

#24
Clown Killer8:34 pm, 16 Feb 10

Whilst I agree with the many posters here suggesting that this is a bit of an over reaction, the solutions is quite simple. “Junk” mail would braodly fall under the definition of material not registered as a publication with Australia Post – I would expect that the Chronicle would be registered. A sign that simply states “No Unaddressed Material Accepted” will suffice.

#25
cross9:08 pm, 16 Feb 10

If it wasn’t for advertising business’s could not operate governments
would not be funded and financially fail and we and our children would not be gainfully employed.Our whole system relies on trade including advertising.The holier than thou are happy to reap money from their investments and super funds but donn,t realise those very funds rely
on advertising, so whine all you like it’s paying for your lifestyle

#26
Brindabella9:59 pm, 16 Feb 10

anticodon said :

blah, blah…to wipe away your tears…

This is becoming a hackneyed, RiotAct cliche. Originality please!

cross said :

So if this is the worst thing to happen to you in your week you are very lucky. Maybe you should take along hard look at yourself.

Indeed perspective is a great thing. So is freedom of speech.

basketcase said :

What is it that you find objectionable in the Chronicle?

Nothing at all. The point is, I just don’t want it delivered to me each week.

LlamaFrog said :

Is this really the biggest problem in your life?

Yes. This, and the price of beer.

Spectra said :

Dude. Chill.

Your definition of “junk” clearly includes anything unsolicited…

…like your comment….Chill back atcha, dude.

TP 3000 said :

If you wish to inquire about who is delivering The Chronicler in your area, have a look in the job classifieds of the paper, usually every suburb has places going & the contact of that suburb coordinator.

Good idea. Would be good to get their address, I’ve got a few papers that I’d like to return. Perhaps other do also?

#27
astrojax10:26 pm, 16 Feb 10

Yes I agree – their deliverers are either incapable of reading English, or completely incompetent. They ignore ‘No junk mail’ signs

no they don’t – as others have posted, ‘junk’ is a non-defined term, legally, and deliverers of any material are still entitled to provide you with their material, which to them is not ‘junk’. a ‘no unsolicited mail’ sign is required, and then only mail actually addressed to you – or the occupant – is able to be delivered.

but really, brindabella, while i agree that this is a classic grumpy old [insert appropriate gender here] scenario, it really isn’t a drama – the government (or is that gubbmint?) give you a big bin with a yellow lid for such travails: give it a try. easier than getting frantic at such small fry. get along to the baby rally outside kate lundy’s office, or apply for the triathalon office dude gig and see what is worth some angst…

#28
NeedHelp10:32 pm, 16 Feb 10

Personally, I think all those Chronicle Whingers had a bad experience with Make-A-Date at some point, and now they’re holding a grudge.

BTW. The neighbour’s Daily Telegraph often ends up on my lawn. It’s “news”. It’s wrapped in plastic. And it sits three feet from my No Junk Mail sign. Junk. Gotta be.

#29
burkes087:28 am, 17 Feb 10

Ahhhhhh Brindabella, I feel your pain!

There are always one or two rotting somewhere in my garden.

#30
Thumper8:07 am, 17 Feb 10

Put it in your wheelie bin.

Now, that’s really not that hard is it?

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