Gary Humphries stripped of Liberals Award

switch said :

dungfungus said :

If you really think that GH “deserves something better” then why not get your Labor comrades to give him an award to replace the Liberal one he has just lost?
I am sure there would be some old Lenin Medals gathering dust at your HQ.

Recycle the one allegedly given to Manning-Clarke?

There is certainly some doubt as to whether he received one or not. There is no doubt that he was the doyen of the Marxists in Australia. What there is also no doubt about is that he wrote more about Australian history than anyone else of note; even the great Geoffrey Blainey praised his work.
It appears that John Hargreaves is trying to emulate the tomes of Clarke on this blog. God help us.

dungfungus said :

If you really think that GH “deserves something better” then why not get your Labor comrades to give him an award to replace the Liberal one he has just lost?
I am sure there would be some old Lenin Medals gathering dust at your HQ.

Recycle the one allegedly given to Manning-Clarke?

John Hargreaves Ex MLA said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves Ex MLA said :

When all is said and done, Gary served his Party well over a long time. And while I think he is ideologically challenged, he deserves that recognition and the award. This more personal than ideological and has nothing to do with loyalty. It is all about power and the retention of it.

Killing Gary seems to be the Liberal Party’s sport for 2014. From a Labor perspective, I say keep it up guys, you are entertaining in a lemming kinda way.

From a Liberal perspective, Gary is not a popular first name at the moment.
Of course from a Labor perspective, Gillard replacing Rudd, then Rudd replacing Gillard was simply the way the left does business.

BUT… How far right do you go before you fall off the edge of the known world, a truth I’m sure is espoused by those massive far righties currently imposing their will on us. Gary was never this much of a zealot and he deserves better.

If you really think that GH “deserves something better” then why not get your Labor comrades to give him an award to replace the Liberal one he has just lost?
I am sure there would be some old Lenin Medals gathering dust at your HQ.

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves Ex MLA said :

When all is said and done, Gary served his Party well over a long time. And while I think he is ideologically challenged, he deserves that recognition and the award. This more personal than ideological and has nothing to do with loyalty. It is all about power and the retention of it.

Killing Gary seems to be the Liberal Party’s sport for 2014. From a Labor perspective, I say keep it up guys, you are entertaining in a lemming kinda way.

From a Liberal perspective, Gary is not a popular first name at the moment.
Of course from a Labor perspective, Gillard replacing Rudd, then Rudd replacing Gillard was simply the way the left does business.

BUT… How far right do you go before you fall off the edge of the known world, a truth I’m sure is espoused by those massive far righties currently imposing their will on us. Gary was never this much of a zealot and he deserves better.

John Hargreaves Ex MLA said :

When all is said and done, Gary served his Party well over a long time. And while I think he is ideologically challenged, he deserves that recognition and the award. This more personal than ideological and has nothing to do with loyalty. It is all about power and the retention of it.

Killing Gary seems to be the Liberal Party’s sport for 2014. From a Labor perspective, I say keep it up guys, you are entertaining in a lemming kinda way.

From a Liberal perspective, Gary is not a popular first name at the moment.
Of course from a Labor perspective, Gillard replacing Rudd, then Rudd replacing Gillard was simply the way the left does business.

When all is said and done, Gary served his Party well over a long time. And while I think he is ideologically challenged, he deserves that recognition and the award. This more personal than ideological and has nothing to do with loyalty. It is all about power and the retention of it.

Killing Gary seems to be the Liberal Party’s sport for 2014. From a Labor perspective, I say keep it up guys, you are entertaining in a lemming kinda way.

davo101 said :

PowderedWhig said :

Affirmative Action Man said :

Part of the swing towards the looney right that has been in progress since the Howard years. The Liberal party is a long way from where it was under Menzies, Holt, Gorton & Fraser.

As is the Labor Party a long way from Chifley and Curtin?

Given that the Labor party of Chifley and Curtin was a genuine, 100%, real-life socialist party, that’s not really surprising. Today’s Labor party is probably to the right of Menzies’s Liberals. That’s why the Greens have appeared in the gap opening at the left.

In a way, yes. In another way, the German liberals, decades back, offered themselves as going beyond the left-right paradigm. Not sure that applies universally, or now, enough, but there seems not enough “keep the b$%#$*ds honest” factor, and all up I tire of the left-right paradigm anyway, there ought to be more to it than that.

PowderedWhig said :

Affirmative Action Man said :

Part of the swing towards the looney right that has been in progress since the Howard years. The Liberal party is a long way from where it was under Menzies, Holt, Gorton & Fraser.

As is the Labor Party a long way from Chifley and Curtin?

Given that the Labor party of Chifley and Curtin was a genuine, 100%, real-life socialist party, that’s not really surprising. Today’s Labor party is probably to the right of Menzies’s Liberals. That’s why the Greens have appeared in the gap opening at the left.

PowderedWhig said :

Is there anyone posting on this thread who isn’t pretending NOT to be a Liberal Party member?

I’m not pretending to not be a member of the Liberal party……hang on, ..what?

Affirmative Action Man said :

Part of the swing towards the looney right that has been in progress since the Howard years. The Liberal party is a long way from where it was under Menzies, Holt, Gorton & Fraser.

As is the Labor Party a long way from Chifley and Curtin?