6 November 2010

There were 30 people partying at Josh Miller's home when they took that photo

6 November 2010 | johnboy

The Canberra Times is finally contributing something new to the Joel Monaghan scandal.

It is reported that the house in question was forward Josh Miller’s

Therefore it is presumably Josh Miller’s dog, and ironically he’s the one player who can’t be accused of complicity in the at best simulated sex scene.

The other two interesting factoids are that there were 30 people at the party, including a local League team.

It also transpires that Joel Monaghan is the Rugby League Players Association Canberra Representative. The RLPA still think he’s a good bloke.

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qedbynature7:40 am 10 Nov 10

Yes Justin, we all live in glass houses…and the internet is fundamentally evil. I personally make the sign of a pentagram and circle myself three times whenever I use twitter.

As a few posters here have pointed out Joel (give the dog a bone) Monaghan hasn’t actually done anything particularly harmful, for which we must be grateful, however the incident does illustrate that drunken loutish behaviour is still very much the norm for our professional footballers and given the ongoing support of sponsors it is fair to assume that such a culture is considered ok by those with money.

Monaghan’s public humiliation has now become a rallying point for the league and its supporters who can claim with a certain justification that league is being victimised and persecuted. No one got hurt, and look at what the media/internet did to poor Joel…

Certainly with sponsors like the CFMEU, Joel and his mates have nothing to be worried about.

Erg01:24 pm 08 Nov 10

justin heywood said :

I wonder how many of the posters here have ever done something that, if someone had been around with a camera at the time, and they were a celebrity, would have ruined their careers?

The difference is that most people have the good sense not to do something monumentally stupid in front of 30 people with camera phones. Doubly so if they’re likely to be easily recognised.

Gerry-Built9:07 pm 07 Nov 10

georgesgenitals said :

The guy doesn’t have mental health issues…

I’ll bet he does right now…

p18:06 pm 07 Nov 10

Deref said :

Show them for what they are and always have been – overpaid, undereducated and undersocialised morons.

Actually, part of the problem is that that isn’t true. They have only been over paid for the last 15 or 20 years. So the whole culture is only a few generations in. It is reaching a point in it’s evolution where the weak need to be culled if the whole culture, industry, etc is to survive. But as long as people keep being able to get away with shit just cause they can catch a ball after being hit in the head 15 times, the NRL will not gets it.

Thoroughly Smashed6:56 pm 07 Nov 10

gladbag said :

I think the person who passed the photo around is more vile than Joel who is just an idiot. Sure what he did was wrong, but he was caught and we will laugh at his expense for a very long time, however, the guys who took the photograph, or the bystanders who stood by are not facing anything, whereas I think they are worse than Joel – they did not intervene and then they passed the photo around. Nice friends….

Hmm.

“The bystanders” are not facing any action because they didn’t do anything wrong. Any people who may have recorded the act… also didn’t do anything wrong. It’s not that hard.

justin heywood6:10 pm 07 Nov 10

I wonder how many of the posters here have ever done something that, if someone had been around with a camera at the time, and they were a celebrity, would have ruined their careers?

I have certainly done many stupid things over the years, under the influence of liquor or lust, that I’m glad aren’t splahed all over twitter. The fact that his act of stupidity involved a dog makes it more newsworthy but no necessarily more heinous.

Nobody was harmed except Monaghan himself. He is simply a victim of the ubiquiity of cameras today and the power of the internet.

sepi4:44 pm 07 Nov 10

The thing is that they aren’t really friends are they? They are workmates. Who are supposed to ‘bond’ as a team. And traditionally, ‘bonding’ methods have been a bit anti-social.

gladbag2:58 pm 07 Nov 10

I think the person who passed the photo around is more vile than Joel who is just an idiot. Sure what he did was wrong, but he was caught and we will laugh at his expense for a very long time, however, the guys who took the photograph, or the bystanders who stood by are not facing anything, whereas I think they are worse than Joel – they did not intervene and then they passed the photo around. Nice friends….

exACTER2:37 pm 07 Nov 10

Gives a whole new meaning to the term “boner”.

pptvb1:40 pm 07 Nov 10

So Trevar,
What are your feelings on this?

Waiting For Godot6:16 am 07 Nov 10

sb14 said :

Terrible. Something like this would never happen in the gentleman’s game of Rugby.

The recollection had reminded him of the time he was part of an Australian squad preparing for the 1999 World Cup final against France. “We had one of those video conferencing systems where players could talk to and see their wives and kids back in Australia. Any way, in the week before the final, Phil Kearns, who had been injured and had returned home, was using one to send us a good-luck message.

“He was talking to the guys and when he walked into shot it was obvious that he had no shirt on. I thought he just had no top on but his wife, who was holding the video camera, panned down to reveal that Phil was stark naked. Better than that, his dog – he had a big Alsatian – then walked over, nudged him in the nuts and started licking. I’ve never seen anything like it.

“We found out afterwards that Phil had rubbed jam or honey into his groin to get his dog to do that on cue. It was his way of settling down the squad who were really tense and worried at the final coming up.”

There’s nowhere to go after that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/columnist…s-nice-guy.html

Thanks for this insight into the hypocrisy and double standards of Phil Kearns. In the early 1990s I was a freelance photographer with Picture Media and one of the newspapers wanted a photo of Kearns in the dressing room shirtless in response to requests from readers – Kearns was a popular player at the time and in those pre-Internet days photographers were allowed in the change rooms. Every time I tried to get a photo of Kearns he kept asking “are you a pervert?” and would screw up his face thus ruining all the photos I managed to take. When the boss saw the pics I was screamed at and told my services were no longer required. A great set of values when someone trying to take a photo of you is a pervert yet a few years later you allow a dog to lick your private parts on camera with all your team mates watching.

BerraBoy687:42 pm 06 Nov 10

vg said :

I’m sorry, but you must live in a sheltered world if you think acts of depravity of this nature are confined to publicly known sports people. I know of office shindigs that have ended in rape allegations.

And yes, I am putting aside the old ‘role model’ argument. Yes, whether he likes it or not, by virtue of his position Joel is a role model. But using that logic so are Mel Gibson, Pee Wee Herman, the guy that hosted the antiques show on the ABC. Some of the acts they committed may be more morally reprehensible but where was the breadth of opinion then.

He has done something very stupid, nigh on criminal, and morally skewed. Thankfully nobody else on this site ever has

You said it yourself VG, your putting aside a bit there. And for what it’s worth, my past has been anything but sheltered.

As you’re a cop I’m sure you know of a whole host of events that have ended up with rape allegations, murder, assault etc. including anniversary dinners, Melbourne cup parties, kids birthdays, etc but typically, most people just go home. Sure, some go home with the wrong person or in the company of you and your colleagues. Very few end up poking a dogs tonsils with their knob. But if these people hold any profile in society you can bet your life they’ll be front page news the next day.

Ordinary people get done every day doing stupid/disgusting things – if they weren’t you wouldn’t have a job. The only reason the ordinary citizen is not put in the media spotlight when they screw up (unless they do something monumentally stupid, like Mully) is because they aren’t house-hold names and paid shed loads of money. We can blame the ‘cult of celebrity’ for giving sports people, movie stars, singers etc a status bigger in society than it really needs to be.

The point in all this is the recurring theme that league players in particular just don’t seem to get the fact that a) as a group they are under possibly more media scrutiny than anyone else in Australia and b) it’s better to be remembered as a guy that played the game very well and was a nice bloke too rather than yet another immature player who was caught out doing something stupid and/or illegal, again. For example, look at Brett Mullins. Here’s a guy that could have been remembered as a great fullback but instead I know a lot of people that, when ever his name is mentioned, raise the issue of his leaving the scene of an accident after he’d crashed his car late at night.

Personally, I look forward to a time when we don’t hear about these types of incidents at all.

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