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A Letter to Road Users

By KB1971 - 16 December 2013 40

I know I am going to cop a bit of a flaming for this but hopefully the message will get through to some people:

I am not overly interested in the debate as it has been done to death, just watch and listen.

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A Letter to Road Users
Felix the Cat 4:09 pm 16 Dec 13

460cixy said :

I ride my bike because I’m a self righteous arsehole !

Obvious troll is obvious

460cixy 3:45 pm 16 Dec 13

I ride my bike because I’m a self righteous arsehole !

Queen_of_the_Bun 3:25 pm 16 Dec 13

carnardly said :

ausbradr said :

those who don’t use perfectly good cycle paths, .

sigh…

they might be perfectly good cycle paths – but if they don’t go where we want them to go – and we need to stop every 200 m for a cross street and traffic, and bounce over lumpy bits and tree roots, or we need to get where we’re going as directly and quickly as possible, then we’ll take the direct route via the on road lanes instead okay?

The roads don’t go where I want them to either – but that doesn’t mean I can drive on the footpath or across a school oval just because it would be faster.

Holy dooley this morning I watched as a temporary Australian brought traffic to a halt on State Circle as she turned right off Canberra Ave and wobbled along in the middle of two lanes of traffic doing approximately 5km/h in a 70km/h zone. Both lanes of traffic had to stop because no-one knew where she was going.

She is probably a lovely person and no-one on the road wanted to cause her any damage, particularly as she was wearing shorts and a singlet and would have suffered severe injuries had she even just fallen off her bike.

However this is a classic example of cyclists wanting it both ways. There is a bike path beside State Circle. Obviously it might be a little inconvenient for a cyclist to cross the road and use it. But how inconvenient is it to make 10 cars brake and wait for one cyclist, who is not even dressed appropriately to protect themselves should they hit a bump and fall off all by themselves?

Postalgeek 3:20 pm 16 Dec 13

dph said :

The reason this video won’t work is because it comes off as if cyclists are completely in the right & can do no wrong.

I see plenty of cyclists who ride like a**holes & completely disobey basic road rules.

The debate will never end until both sides can agree that we’re all equal. All have the right to use the roads & we should all be working together.

Did you watch the same video that I watched?

The one I watched addressed the issue you raised from 3:10 onwards.

DrKoresh 3:10 pm 16 Dec 13

The reason this video won’t work is because it’s a load of sappy, patronising crap.

dph 3:04 pm 16 Dec 13

The reason this video won’t work is because it comes off as if cyclists are completely in the right & can do no wrong.

I see plenty of cyclists who ride like a**holes & completely disobey basic road rules.

The debate will never end until both sides can agree that we’re all equal. All have the right to use the roads & we should all be working together.

Solidarity 2:57 pm 16 Dec 13

carnardly said :

ausbradr said :

those who don’t use perfectly good cycle paths, .

sigh…

they might be perfectly good cycle paths – but if they don’t go where we want them to go – and we need to stop every 200 m for a cross street and traffic, and bounce over lumpy bits and tree roots, or we need to get where we’re going as directly and quickly as possible, then we’ll take the direct route via the on road lanes instead okay?

If it goes the wrong way, is full of lumps and bumps and has a bajillion stops, then it’s not perfectly good is it…

Not advocating anything, just sayin’

neanderthalsis 2:54 pm 16 Dec 13

carnardly said :

ausbradr said :

those who don’t use perfectly good cycle paths, .

sigh…

they might be perfectly good cycle paths – but if they don’t go where we want them to go – and we need to stop every 200 m for a cross street and traffic, and bounce over lumpy bits and tree roots…?

So the bike paths are as bad as the roads then? At least they don’t chip seal the bike paths.

davo101 2:33 pm 16 Dec 13

ausbradr said :

those who don’t use perfectly good cycle paths

And perhaps a crackdown on trolls.

carnardly 2:28 pm 16 Dec 13

ausbradr said :

those who don’t use perfectly good cycle paths, .

sigh…

they might be perfectly good cycle paths – but if they don’t go where we want them to go – and we need to stop every 200 m for a cross street and traffic, and bounce over lumpy bits and tree roots, or we need to get where we’re going as directly and quickly as possible, then we’ll take the direct route via the on road lanes instead okay?

jase! 2:16 pm 16 Dec 13

Brianna said :

Cyclists have a right to share the road. Cyclists MUST obey the traffic laws. The pedestrian crossing in Challis St Dickson is a nightmare. Very rare for a cyclist to dismount and walk their bike across this pedestrian crossing.

was going to post pretty much the same thing, the lass (probably early 20’s) not wearing her helmet and who darted across thepedestrian crossing on the tradies side of maccas on saturday night is a good example of this. I had a fair idea she was going to do it so was covering the brakes but she still nearly ended up on the front of the car. All I got in return for a quick beep was a shrug of the shoulders as she rode off.

if cyclists are pissing off other cyclists then they are doing it wrong

ausbradr 1:05 pm 16 Dec 13

Personally I don’t think anyone will wake up to that (very sensible) message until the police crack down on both sides of the motorist v. cyclist war. (Hefty fines for red light running cyclists / those who don’t use perfectly good cycle paths, and hefty fines or jailtime for those who intimidate or harass cyclists, unprovoked.

Great video though. It’s very valid. However I don’t think it’ll change many minds until the police and courts take the issue seriously.

Brianna 12:57 pm 16 Dec 13

neanderthalsis said :

Dear self righteous cyclist (not all of you, but there are some who certainly are)

Not all accidents are the fault of the motorist. If you try not to be stupid, we will try not to be stupid.

Regards,

Self righteous motorist.

P.S.
You don’t have the monopoly on keeping fit. Just because I drive doesn’t mean I don’t participate in other activities.
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Yep, yep & yep. Cyclists have a right to share the road. Cyclists MUST obey the traffic laws. The pedestrian crossing in Challis St Dickson is a nightmare. Very rare for a cyclist to dismount and walk their bike across this pedestrian crossing. I understand that many cyclists are worried about a car door opening in their faces. Are they aware that I am scared of hitting them when they do something illegal and obviously unexpected? I’m tired of seeing some cyclists take the best of both worlds. Cycle like mad on the road and as soon as it hits a red light, they zoom onto the pedestrian crossing at the lights to get through and then once past the lights, back on the road. Make up your mind what you want to do and stick to it.

neanderthalsis 11:54 am 16 Dec 13

Dear self righteous cyclist (not all of you, but there are some who certainly are)

Not all accidents are the fault of the motorist. If you try not to be stupid, we will try not to be stupid.

Regards,

Self righteous motorist.

P.S.
You don’t have the monopoly on keeping fit. Just because I drive doesn’t mean I don’t participate in other activities.

PPS
I too enjoy our the environment, especially as it passes by at 100kmph.

PPPS
Please don’t wear lycra.

zorro29 11:38 am 16 Dec 13

Definitely won’t flame that…I think it’s an important reminder.

I am a cyclist as well as a motorist. I also admit that until I started cycling on a regular basis that I didn’t pay as much attention as I should have for cyclists and sometimes got irritated with them in my lane etc etc.

I now see that cyclists just want to be safe and seen. It’s damn scary out there at times – even riding next to parked cars is hair-raising at times as people open their doors without looking (sometimes leading to serious injury for cyclists). Pedestrians don’t watch for us, motorists can be aggressive and thoughtless. We need to be the most vigilent on the road.

I have narrowly avoided being hit a couple of times and even had a car make contact with me on one occasion. I am a very cautious rider and only ride in designated bike lanes or sharepath facilities…so it goes to show that even doing all the right things, cyclists are still in danger.

I live in Sydney now where motorists are even less mindful of cyclists and more aggressive at times.

Cyclists should all take care and motorists should remember that the road is there for both of us. Be patient and give cyclists space. This not only applies when moving, but also after you park – check for cyclists.

On another note, I don’t really like how these videos use guilt to put across a message so much – it doesn’t matter if someone was a wife or husband or had 3000 kids…each life is important and should be valued and respected by others.

Thanks for posting link 🙂

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