Acupunture or something more?

DeskMonkey 29 March 2012 36

I have extremely bad posture and this is due to the fact that I constantly at a computer.

Over the years it has been getting worse and I am suffering headaches as a result (plus I look like the hunchbacks’ sister!) I’ve tried oestopathy and don’t particularly want to keep paying a fortune for half hour massage sessions and a quick spine crack.

I’ve tried massages to reduce the tension in my shoulders, I’ve tried a brace to pull my shoulders back, I sit correctly at my desk and I’m running out of ideas.

Has anyone used acupuncture to get rid of knots in muscles and to relieve the tension in the shoulders… or is there anything else I could try (other than changing my job!)


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daPea daPea 8:29 am 28 Dec 12

I’m not sure if you ended up trying acupuncture but I have and I found this information most useful.

Acupuncture is an effective treatment for Injuries because it reduces pain, increases range of motion, increases recovery and healing time, and strengthens weakened parts of the body. These effects are accomplished during treatment because acupuncture:

relieves pain
decreases inflammation
reduces swelling
relaxes muscles and relieves spasms
decreases bruising
improves local blood circulation to increase delivery of nutrients and removal of toxins

The Traineediplomat The Traineediplomat 5:52 pm 02 Apr 12

Reiki!!! come on people ..no one has mentioned it? Won’t somebody think of the children…or horses with poor posture…

Actual solution that will work better – alcohol….consumption of….

HenryBG HenryBG 4:15 pm 02 Apr 12

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Prevention of migraines?!

I’d like to read that study, got a link?

The irony is that fans of “complementary medicine” (aka medicine that doesn’t work) always complain that “conventional medicine” (aka medicine that works) “only addresses the symptoms”, when stuff like acupuncture clearly doesn’t even pretend to do anything better than address the symptoms – although it doesn’t do much of that even, not reliably nor reproducibly, unlike taking an aspirin which has a reliable, reproducible physiological effect.

jessieduck jessieduck 4:06 pm 02 Apr 12

I used acupuncture to relieve tinnitus. I had a horrible flu virus that knocked me for six and I practically crawled into the clinic with dizziness and ear ringing. The practitioner hooked the needles up to a machine that sent an electric current through the needles and the relief was instantaneous. I couldn’t believe how easy it was to stand up and leave!

I would recommend acupuncture in a heartbeat but not to rectify your issues.

Thoroughly Smashed Thoroughly Smashed 3:37 pm 02 Apr 12

Prevention of migraines?!

I’d like to read that study, got a link?

mossrocket mossrocket 2:04 pm 02 Apr 12

Headache sufferers can find relief in acupuncture, even if the needles are stuck in the wrong places…

Two separate systematic reviews of data show that acupuncture is an effective treatment for prevention of headaches and migraines. But the results also suggest that faked procedures, in which needles are incorrectly inserted, can be just as effective.

Just saying…

mossrocket mossrocket 1:53 pm 02 Apr 12

http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474442206703829/abstract

tl:dr – Treatment outcomes for migraine do not differ between patients treated with sham acupuncture, ‘real’ acupuncture, or standard therapy.

Sounds like you are having tension headaches brought on by a tight thoracic (middle back muscles).
I get the same.
I had tried everything (except iridology and homeopathy (google the 10:21 campaign for why homeopathy is really silly) and have found that exercise of the back (yoga poses, resistance belts and light weights) mixed with a diet to reduce body mass, and physical therapy from a Pilates instructor is giving me the tools to fix myself…

mossrocket mossrocket 1:46 pm 02 Apr 12

Deref said :

Have you tried iridology or homeopathy? They should work at least as well as what you’ve been doing.

OMG – yes, anything should work as well as not doing anything to fix the underlying issues at all…
braces and massages are like polishing a turd…

Try tea leaf reading or maybe coin flipping?

Seriously – how about Yoga? At least that will get you moving and hopefully strengthen the muscles to get your posture right…

Or even better; Pilates…

A good bet is to talk to a qualified health practitioner who specialises in Physical Therapy – They will give you some exercises to strengthen the correct muscles and help develop a way for you to rehabilitate yourself with the correct exercise regime…

Deref Deref 10:02 am 30 Mar 12

Have you tried iridology or homeopathy? They should work at least as well as what you’ve been doing.

madamcholet madamcholet 9:47 am 30 Mar 12

Mr Cholet has tried acupunture for his back problems and reports good things. Me, I tried it once and found it painful as the practitioner, (chinese), tried to keep pushing the needles in further than they really wanted to go. Haven’t been back since, but toy with the idea periodically.

We now rely on chinese massage – me spcifically from the place in Tuggeranongs wonderful Hyperdome, and Mr Cholet from one of the places in Woden. Find them really good at locating the tough spots without you even having to tell them. Takes a few sessions to get the issues worked through and you have to keep going as you very quickly get back to square one.

Good luck.

Thoroughly Smashed Thoroughly Smashed 9:14 am 30 Mar 12

Brindabella said :

Play more tennis.

But then she’ll need acupuncture for her elbow. You clearly haven’t thought this through.

Brindabella Brindabella 11:47 pm 29 Mar 12

Play more tennis.

foodie81 foodie81 6:49 pm 29 Mar 12

Highly recommend Alexander Technique, Andrew Earl at Dickson is great worth giving it a go, alternative therapies are not for everyone, but if you don’t try you won’t know, that’s my theory. Helped me move forward in leaps and bounds with similar issues to what you describe.

Ello Vera Ello Vera 5:47 pm 29 Mar 12

My own anecdote. I have a herniated disk in my spine and many years ago it flared baldly. I took it to my GP who prescribed anti-inflammatories (NSAIDs) and referred me to imaging, which confirmed his diagnosis. The NSAIDs did nothing and after a week or so of agony, I tried acupuncture. I immediately had freedom of movement, for the first time in a couple of weeks, and from there was able to gradually recover.

There was no massage, just needles and a light current. The effect was immediate, not delayed, so reversion to the mean was not in play. There was no effect on the underlying condition but the body was able to heal itself once some movement was possible.

Placebo, possibly but somehow I doubt it as other treatments, which had done nothing, should have had just as strong a placebo effect.

So, I’m inclined to think that there is something there. For subsequent flare-ups I have used massage only but if I ever get totally locked down again, I will consider the acupuncture option.

CrocodileGandhi CrocodileGandhi 5:21 pm 29 Mar 12

EvanJames said :

As Wally said, we’ve moved beyond writing off acupuncture as useless, although the medical folk still like to remind us that it hasn’t reached the level of evidence-based medicine.

I always regarded it as nonsense, but had a serious and chronic sports-caused ailment, and was nagged into trying acupuncture at the ANU facility (some years back). I had a very bad attitude to it, plus I hate needles, and there was going to be NO placebo effect on me.

The placebo effect is not quite that simple. Studies have shown that it is still relatively effective even when subjects are told that it’s a placebo. There are all other sorts of strange outcomes also, such as giving a subject two placebos has been shown to be more effective than being given one.

EvanJames EvanJames 5:10 pm 29 Mar 12

As Wally said, we’ve moved beyond writing off acupuncture as useless, although the medical folk still like to remind us that it hasn’t reached the level of evidence-based medicine.

I always regarded it as nonsense, but had a serious and chronic sports-caused ailment, and was nagged into trying acupuncture at the ANU facility (some years back). I had a very bad attitude to it, plus I hate needles, and there was going to be NO placebo effect on me.

Well, it certainly relieved the issue, in a major way. In fact I wondered if I was actually cured, it was so major. I certainly didn’t suffer from the issue for some weeks, until I stupidly went and totally over-did the sport (played 14 matches in one day at a carnival) and the issue came back.

I do believe that, if used as part of a bigger treatment plan by a sports doctor or physio, it could be very effective in relieving the pain and stiffness (but not curing it).

Wallly1972 Wallly1972 4:55 pm 29 Mar 12

I agree with most of the comments about treating the underlying cause. For those of us in desk (and other sedentary jobs) exercise & stretching is a good idea (I’ve had success with Pilates).

Secondly, if you can find a solution where you can manage it rather than relying on repeated treatments.

Going to a GP could be good to makes rue there is no serious condition and to give you an idea as to the range of treatments.

Physios can be good first stops too. They are interested in self-management/treatment (my physio friend says treatments are usually 2-4 appts) and possibly don’t have the same risks as chiros. They will also refer to other health professionals if necessary e.g. sports physician.

I was getting pain in my bicep and a physio helped me work on my posture and gave me exercises to strengthen my back muscles (as well as massage to relieve the pain) which worked. Its amazing how a condition in one part of the body can lead to pain or difficulty in another part.

Regarding acupuncture I have recently seen some articles that it might not be all hocum (best of all the alternative therapies). One was a report of some clinical trials where there was more than a placebo effect. Another was saying that it can have a short term effect by increasing the circulation (nothing to do with meridians).
Here are some refs:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703630304575270792112727252.html
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6882/6/25

Good luck.

Pork Hunt Pork Hunt 4:46 pm 29 Mar 12

For those that know me this might sound like the pot calling the kettle black but go to the gym!

john87_no1 john87_no1 4:02 pm 29 Mar 12

Swim my friend. Great for back pain and helping get rid of knots and tension.

Little_Green_Bag Little_Green_Bag 3:58 pm 29 Mar 12

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Acupuncture won’t improve your posture.

Acupuncture won’t improve anything.

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