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Archbishop Mark Coleridge to move to Brisbane

By nanzan - 3 April 2012 52

The Australian Catholic Bishops’ Conference has just announced this evening that the Catholic Archbishop of Canberra, Mark Coleridge, has been appointed to the Archdiocese of Brisbane.

Archbishop Coleridge came to Canberra from Melbourne, a few years ago, where he had been an auxiliary bishop. It has long been rumoured that he wasn’t going to be staying in Canberra for very long, and that he would probably end up with an appointment to an archdiocese with a larger population. (Bishop Coleridge had replaced the much-loved, and long-serving Archbishop of Canberra, Francis Carroll, who retired to Wagga Wagga.)

Archbishop Coleridge was heavily involved in the new translation of the Roman Missal, which has been rolled out, with some controversy, across Australia (and other English-speaking countries) over the last year.

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milkman 9:40 pm 05 Apr 12

bigfeet said :

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It is however extremely rare that it is done in the name of athiesm, or in the cause of advancing athiesm. It is quite common for “some terrible things” to be done in the name of religion.

This is entirely reasonable, but I think we need to remember that the majority of religious people (and there are a lot of them) have no interest in doing terrible things to anyone. Many of the charities and community organisations people go to for help are religious in nature. I don’t think it’s acceptable to tar the whole group because of the actions of a few, and I think it’s even less acceptable to publicly hassle them because of their beliefs.

It’s a popular thing to bag the Catholics/Christians, but that doesn’t make it right.

bigfeet 9:16 pm 05 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

bigfeet said :

Ok. Trying to respond and selectively quote using my iPhone is difficult!

That previous comment related to Henry’s final paragraph!

No married men will be eligible either.

Are you suggesting the catholic education system teaches “… hatred, discrimination and bigotry ..” against married men? ?

Yes. If it prevents someone from getting a job within its organisation, particularly when that job involves great influence and power, simply because they are married it is discriminatory and should be illegal. In every other circumstance (except for religion) it is illegal. Why should religion be any different?

Perhaps I should have used the phrase” hatred, discrimination OR bigotry” as I am only giving this as an example of discrimination, not the other two. I was trying to link it back to the original post.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Fernwood doesn’t allow male participation. I guess it promotes hatred, discrimination and bigotry.

Getting way of topic but – Yes. It is discrimination. It is not, however putting someone into a position of power which is a difference. But I do not think sex discriminatory clubs should be permitted.

milkman said :

Athiests have done some terrible things over the years – they can shut up and take what’s coming to them.

It is however extremely rare that it is done in the name of athiesm, or in the cause of advancing athiesm. It is quite common for “some terrible things” to be done in the name of religion.

milkman 4:54 pm 05 Apr 12

Eirlys said :

To me a rampant athiest who shoves their non belief down someone’s throat or belittles their belief is the same as a rampant religious person shoving their belief down someone’s throat who doesn’t or believes differently, or belittles them in the same way.

Sorry to me it is the same thing.

Athiests have done some terrible things over the years – they can shut up and take what’s coming to them.

Eirlys 4:31 pm 05 Apr 12

To me a rampant athiest who shoves their non belief down someone’s throat or belittles their belief is the same as a rampant religious person shoving their belief down someone’s throat who doesn’t or believes differently, or belittles them in the same way.

Sorry to me it is the same thing.

toriness 2:47 pm 05 Apr 12

Eppo said :

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Holden Caulfield said :

Catholic/Christian-bashing, the last, apparently, publicly acceptable bastion of the bigot.

It’s quite sad, actually. Also sad that we allow it here.

It only occurs because catholics/christians can’t keep to themselves. Want a religion? Fine, believe in whatever the hell you want. But they can’t just do that, can they? They have to attempt to interfere and influence the lives of people who have no time for their ridiculous fairy tales. Hence the bashing.

If the church saves 0.2% of GDP each year, that’s great. But I do wonder how much they’d contribute if we taxed them, instead of all their investments and activities hiding behind that “but we’re a charity” wall.

+ infinity and beyond

knuckles 2:42 pm 05 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

p1 said :

knuckles said :

HenryBG said :

Some fringeist ideologues took on the Catholic management, essentially over a single issue that had nothing to do with providing essential services to the community, and the fringeist ideologues lost.
Yet another reason why having diverse ideologies capable of standing up to each other is good for us.

Is that what the bloke who wears a dress and stands at the front of your church told you?
What really happened is very different.
Then again, christians never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Sore loser. You’re in denial.

A new-fangled political ideology that loves political correctness and other communist-inspired methods decided to take on an old-fangled political ideology that’s been around for over 1,000 years and the new-fangled ideology lost.
A majority of Canberrans cheered.

bigfeet said :

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Mate, what the hell are you on about. The only one who carried on with ideology in this instance was Coleridge. The Little Company of Mary themselves finally understood that they were too small a company to be managing a major public hospital. They are better suited to running smaller community based hospitals. That’s why they approached the government wanting to sell back the hospital (even though it had already been paid for by the tax payer, but that’s another story) and the government was all set to develop the site as a major public hospital.

Then Coleridge got his dress all ruffled, claiming that they may carry out procedures on the site that are inconsistent with Catholic dogma. If that’s not ramming your religious ideology down the throat of the general public, then I don’t know what is.

And if you think that the majority of Canberrans cheered, all I can say is you need to get out more and meet some new people. Have a chat to people who work in the ACT health system and ask them if they think it’s a good idea that the Little Company of Mary is running the northsides “public” hospital.

p1 2:07 pm 05 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

p1 said :

I see some parallels between your argument of the financial benefit of organised religion to the community and the argument of the pokie industry in NSW.

I find it very hard to believe that you would think that.

There must be social benefits to organised religion, or it wouldn’t be something that exists in every human culture in every place and time in history.

At an individual level, a lot of people obviously need an imaginary friend to help them get through the day. If it helps them, then it’s got to be good for society.

I can’t think of any comparable benefit involving the pokies. They are truly disgusting things.

My thought was along the lines of “look at all the good things the clubs do in the community” is similar to “look at all the good religions do in the community”.

I am not saying that the catholic church is anywhere near as evil as the gaming industry.

VYBerlinaV8_is_back 1:52 pm 05 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

bigfeet said :

Ok. Trying to respond and selectively quote using my iPhone is difficult!

That previous comment related to Henry’s final paragraph!

No married men will be eligible either.

Are you suggesting the catholic education system teaches “… hatred, discrimination and bigotry ..” against married men?

Looks like your facile denigrations were not founded on solid ground, eh?

Fernwood doesn’t allow male participation. I guess it promotes hatred, discrimination and bigotry.

HenryBG 1:40 pm 05 Apr 12

bigfeet said :

Ok. Trying to respond and selectively quote using my iPhone is difficult!

That previous comment related to Henry’s final paragraph!

No married men will be eligible either.

Are you suggesting the catholic education system teaches “… hatred, discrimination and bigotry ..” against married men?

Looks like your facile denigrations were not founded on solid ground, eh?

HenryBG 1:35 pm 05 Apr 12

p1 said :

I see some parallels between your argument of the financial benefit of organised religion to the community and the argument of the pokie industry in NSW.

I find it very hard to believe that you would think that.

There must be social benefits to organised religion, or it wouldn’t be something that exists in every human culture in every place and time in history.

At an individual level, a lot of people obviously need an imaginary friend to help them get through the day. If it helps them, then it’s got to be good for society.

I can’t think of any comparable benefit involving the pokies. They are truly disgusting things.

p1 11:32 am 05 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

p1 said :

My point, such as it was, is that every minute spent praying is a minute of potential productivity wasted. I mentioned nothing about schools.

Well, you could say the same thing about Yoga, playing football, or watching TV (x1,000,000). and it’s true-ish, I suppose.

I agree with you 100 per cent. What people do for entertainment is never going to contribute to GDP (unless they start mining for fun?).

I see some parallels between your argument of the financial benefit of organised religion to the community and the argument of the pokie industry in NSW.

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