Attention Nervous Nellies of Canberra Roads

because we can’t SEE when it’s raining.. lol and there are killer pot holes everywhere, I’m not about to sit in the right hand lane n go slow, but many you should consider going just a bit slower too..
or get up an extra 15min early so you don’t feel the pressure to stick to posted speed limits.

I had the displeasure of having to head to Canberra during the big wet yesterday, on the way towards the ACT there were two cars in the bushes at the side of the road, having skidded off the road and were being towed out. On the way out of the city late afternoon, yet another car stuck in the ditch at the side of the road. I myself drove out of Canberra at about 90kms. 20kms below the speed limit!! I don’t give a rats if I pissed anyone off by my speed (although I was in the left lane) but at least I didn’t slide off the road and damage the car or myself.

shirty_bear said :

Surely we can’t lose the ability to build roads?

Well, nobody knows how to build pyramids anymore. Nobody knows how to build Roman style roads.

A few decades of cutting corners leads us from roads with properly bedded road base and decently thick surfaces to half-arsed road base (because you’re building to a tight time budget, or you forget to let it dry before putting the surface on), and just enough blacktop to cover the base (because the client doesn’t know how to evaluate road build quality).

Just watch as all these potholes are “repaired” by dumping in some road base, patting it down a little, and slapping some bitumen on top with a shovel. They will cave in within a week, leaving great chunks of bitumen and gravel sitting on the road to get thrown into motorcyclist’s faces or through windscreens.

So yes, we can forget how to build roads properly, and a competitive tendering process is a wonderful way of ensuring it happens.

smont said :

I too was naive about driving in the wet and figured my car was invincible until the Oct long weekend last year when I experienced that little gem called aquaplaning for the very first time. My tyres are good, I was on a good road and driving straight ahead when the car started gliding to the right on a plane of water and would not respond to my steering. Luckily the car responded to my steering correction just as I was about to leave the road – and the fact that I had slowed to about 5-10kph under the limit was undoubtedly a key factor in saving my bacon. Don’t kid yourself if you seriously think that driving in the wet adds no risk to driving in the dry. I wouldn’t actually give two hoots about you if it wasn’t for the fact that it could very well be me that you end up ploughing into …

You and anyone else like you should book into a skidpan day with Fifth Gear Motorsport out at Sutton Driver Training Facility.

I’m not having a go at you per se, just suggesting it’s far better to first experience an “Oh shit!” aquaplane situation in a controlled setting, rather than on a public road.

Doing such a course won’t make you invincible, nothing can, but it will better prepare you for driving in adverse conditions.

[sarcasm]
But, of course, making a course similar to this mandatory for all drivers wouldn’t better educate our motorists it would just turn them into overconfident hoons.
[/sarcasm]

BimboGeek said :

Talking to some ambulance paramedics today, they mentioned that there hadn’t been a lot of serious injury during the rain, on the roads or anywhere else. Their main concern had been the roads and at 7pm they were pretty happy.

So maybe you are all ok drivers!

For every tool on the road, there is ten or fifteen or twenty normal people watching the toolness happen, shaking their heads, then compensating for them. Dramas happen when two or more tools cross paths, or compete for the same piece of bitumen/pothole.

Speaking of which … is it my imagination, or are the newer roads FAR more susceptible to potholing than those more than, say, twenty years old? Has Gininderra Dve fallen apart to the extent Gungahlin Dve has?
Surely we can’t lose the ability to build roads?

I don’t mean to play semantics but those who say that it takes longer to stop in the wet need to revise their physics lessons. If you don’t lose traction, it takes no longer (in time or distance) to stop on a wet road than it takes on a dry one. If you do lose traction, it’s very much a matter of luck whether you stop before something undesirable happens. It is the increased likelihood of a loss of traction that means we should slow down when the road’s wet, not this fictional ‘it takes longer to stop’ nonsense.

But (I almost can’t believe I’m saying this) I agree with angrymotorist’s assertion that the real nellies should stay at home. The most nervous drivers I know refuse to drive on unsealed roads. In my experience, the strategies you use to minimise risk on dirt roads are mostly the same ones you use on wet roads, so if you’re not confident driving on a dirt road, you shouldn’t drive on a wet road.

And while I agree with those commenters who say that slowing down is a good thing, I can’t help feeling that I’d rather share the road with angrymotorist than with the nervous nellies down the extreme other end of the spectrum. I’d choose angrymotorist because (within certain boundaries) erring towards the accelerator in the wet is less likely to lead to a loss of traction than the nervous nellies’ tendency of erring towards the brake pedal. Of course, I’d prefer to share the road with the more moderate commenters in the middle who slow down a little and don’t rely on their brakes, but if it were just a choice between the two extremes, I’m with angrymotorist.

Even under those circumstances, though, I still think Marie hit it on the head: further aggravation to angrymotorist is the lesser evil. Actually, maybe further aggravation to angrymotorist isn’t an evil at all…

If it’s a choice between risking annoying someone and making them arrive at their destination a minute later, or risking a crash, I will choose to piss you off every time. Your extra 60 seconds is not worth my safety.

Talking to some ambulance paramedics today, they mentioned that there hadn’t been a lot of serious injury during the rain, on the roads or anywhere else. Their main concern had been the roads and at 7pm they were pretty happy.

So maybe you are all ok drivers!

Just drove from Narrabundah to Woden via Hindmarsh Drive on Thursday. Instead of going the normal +/-80 kms/hr, over and down Mugga, I thought I would go slower with the new point-to-point speed cameras. In the rain I was amazed that everbody had slowed down to 75 km/ph. It was an enjoyable drive and I think justifies the speed cameras.
People who think they own the road like angry motorist will tailgate & speed will pay the price for not obeying the road rules with fines. Next generation cameras can will show people who use mobile phones while driving. Angry motorists will pay for their intolerance of nervous nellies, just as you tolerate a lost tourist.

Watson said :

which took a while to de-mist (is that a proper word?).

Yes it is (no hyphen required though). Hence why most cars are fitted with a demister button.

Glad I cycled today. Sure, I got damp, but the sight of the cars going stop/start – I would have gone psycho in that, better for me and you that I rode.

I read the original post, and it’s not necessarily what he says that makes him a tool, it’s the way he says it. He’s obviously such an important man that every second of his time is so precious that anyone who dare waste it is some kind of monster.

If nothing else though, I’ve felt perfectly justified in my decision to leave the small fuel efficient aluminium can at home in favour of the largest commercial vehicle in the drive while it’s raining. If people like AngryMotorist are going be running into me then there’ll be 3 tonnes of metal making sure they just bounce off.

Aquila said :

What those people bitching about drivers in the right lane don’t seem to appreciate is that in very wet conditions the left hand lane often has a lot of water in it and the safe option is to travel in the right lane.

An effective driver drives to the road conditions and if those conditions include nervous drivers in the right hand lane, then so be it. I’m sure someone can organise a cup of concrete for those who can’t cope with this.

I once got stuck in the right lane on Ginninderra drive in a big thunderstorm. I turned onto the road in the right lane and once I was on it I suddenly couldn’t see a damn thing due to the heavy rain and a fogged up windscreen which took a while to de-mist (is that a proper word?). And because the traffic in the other two lanes was going so fast and visibility was so appalling, there was just no chance to change lanes safely until I got a clearer view of the road – both ahead and behind me and I had to slow down to way below the limit because I could barely see the side of the road. Ever since then, I try to pull over if I can if there’s a big storm. Not just because I realise that the reduced visibility makes driving 10 times trickier, but because of all the idiots who don’t seem to think it necessary to see the road properly to drive 20ks over the limit.

Today the rain wasn’t that bad, but I think it is wise to limit lane changing in these situations because very obviously that is when most accidents happen. It takes a lot more concentration to drive with the rain limiting how far you can see ahead and the water on the road obscuring the road markings. So keep it simple and slow down.

But common sense is wasted on so many selfish drivers…

Good advice from JimCharles.

Aquila said :

What those people bitching about drivers in the right lane don’t seem to appreciate is that in very wet conditions the left hand lane often has a lot of water in it and the safe option is to travel in the right lane.

Yup. I drove in at about lunchtime and I was sometimes (shock horror!) doing about 10-15km under the limit in the right hand lane, because the left hand lane was covered in significant water. I don’t drive a 4WD, and I’m not going to risk it driving through deep water at high speed.

Luckily for me, everyone else on the road had the same idea and was driving very sensibly.

And the people who do leave extra distance between the car in front in wet weather are then forced to go even slower when drivers who *have*to get there 30 whole seconds before everyone else weave in between the lanes. I’m guessing the OP is one of those people.

What those people bitching about drivers in the right lane don’t seem to appreciate is that in very wet conditions the left hand lane often has a lot of water in it and the safe option is to travel in the right lane.

An effective driver drives to the road conditions and if those conditions include nervous drivers in the right hand lane, then so be it. I’m sure someone can organise a cup of concrete for those who can’t cope with this.

I too was naive about driving in the wet and figured my car was invincible until the Oct long weekend last year when I experienced that little gem called aquaplaning for the very first time. My tyres are good, I was on a good road and driving straight ahead when the car started gliding to the right on a plane of water and would not respond to my steering. Luckily the car responded to my steering correction just as I was about to leave the road – and the fact that I had slowed to about 5-10kph under the limit was undoubtedly a key factor in saving my bacon. Don’t kid yourself if you seriously think that driving in the wet adds no risk to driving in the dry. I wouldn’t actually give two hoots about you if it wasn’t for the fact that it could very well be me that you end up ploughing into …

You must be one of the sad f*ckers tailgating my wife on Athlon today (in the left lane, no less) because she dared to do 75 on a road covered in an inch of water. You tore past, blasted your horn – and we saw you at the next lights. You tore off again – and we saw you at the next lights. I know you saw us laughing our arses off, try as you did to stare straight ahead and look very, very serious. You tore off again – and we found you driving 75 along Adelaide Ave. Was it the first three-car prang on Melrose that spooked you? Or the second two hundred meters down the road, crawling with police, fire and ambulance? Super hero.

cegee said :

you are a f***wit. you are SUPPOSED to drop 10 km below the speed limit in wet conditions. wonder how many accidents you’ve unwittingly caused, tosspot.

Which particular stone is this chiseled into? If you’re driving at 90 kph in the wet and slam on your BRAKES (all you spelling-retarded keyboard monkeys take note) you should be able to BREAK traction almost as easily as if you were going 100kph.

I could be mistaken but I believe the general idea in wet conditions is to give yourself increased reaction and braking distance. The faster you go, the more distance is required to react and apply brakes safely.

Going 10 under the limit means precisely nothing if you have not left a safe distance between you and the car in front of you. And if you want to go slow in the right lane, irrespective of who is legally at fault, you are most likely decreasing the braking distances between the cars caught behind you.

At the end of the day, stay left if you’re not passing. Maybe there’s no law that requires people to stay left in sub-80 zones, but there’s no law against doing truly disgusting farts in a full lift, blatantly pushing in front of people in a queue, or talking extremely loudly on a phone while someone’s giving a eulogy.

The speed limit is the maximum legal speed permitted in good, clear conditions. We’ve had a months worth of rain fall in less than 24 hours. A.C.T roads are far from being in a good condition at the moment. I’d argue that those who are averaging 10 to 15 km/h under the speed limit today are driving in a far safer manner than someone who’s driving at the limit, or as fast as they would on a clear sunny day.

Drivers who fail to keep left unless overtaking where they’re legally required to… any road with a speed limit of 90 km/h or more or any road with a keep left unless overtaking sign, unless congested… is completely unrelated to those who slow down when wet.

Don’t forget that the law is “keep left unless overtaking” not “keep left unless travelling at the speed limit”. A motorist travelling at 80 km/h in the right lane of a 100 km/h road… overtaking a long line of vehicles travelling at 70 km/h… has every right to be there. It’s the tosser who comes flying up behind with some unfounded and self righteous belief about not ever being required to slow down, hence starts tailgating, flashing beams and carrying on like a pork chop, who would solely be in the wrong in such a situation.

With 245/45 tyres, more than 300 horespower and rear wheel drive I’m not about to drive at my usual speed when it’s pissing down!!

You really are scary people, around here. Why do you always have to misinterpret what you read instead of just reading? He doesn’t say that you should speed or you should stick to the speed limit if you are not comfortable with that, he just says the most logical thing in the world: just get away from the right lane if you want to go slowly. As you are so quick at quoting laws and saying general points, let’s get to the point: the right lane should be used only for overtaking. And what makes you think that, because he wants to stick to the speed limit, he is dangerous? Two different things: going quickly enough & being dangerous. You can be a danger at 50kmph. As far as I know, you can be a danger at 10kmph in my street, my postman is trying to kill me every morning…

I agree with the OP. If you can’t drive without jumping at shadows you should not be on the road. Maybe you oldies should be tested every year ensure safety for the rest of us.
Sure, it takes longer to brake in the wet but if you must drive 15kph under the limit, please show some courtesy and move to the left lane.

I partly agree with the OP about the “nervous nellies” on the road. By all means drive safely and to the conditions but still drive with confidence… geez!

I wonder if you were the guy in the van for the photocopier company that left Symonston for Canberra Avenue, causing myself and others to slow down rapidly around 9am this morning. That was annoying enough, but you were also ON YOUR PHONE.

Onceler said :

milkman said :

Onceler said :

“break” and “brake”. Different meanings, different spellings. Never mind driving too fast or too slow; it’s this sloppy spelling that really gets up my goat!

If there’s one thing that I really don’t want to do it’s get up your goat.

Damn straight, keep your hands offa my goat or else.

“offa my” and “off my”.Different meanings, different spellings, offa’ is however correct re: Urban Dictionary .
Been waiting for a good spelling correction since I got nailed a few posts back

cegee said :

you are SUPPOSED to drop 10 km below the speed limit in wet conditions.

That’s a fairly rigid number.

you are a f***wit. you are SUPPOSED to drop 10 km below the speed limit in wet conditions. wonder how many accidents you’ve unwittingly caused, tosspot.

chewy14 said :

Yeah, right on.

Driving to the conditions is for pussies.

When it’s raining we should all speed up so we get to our destinations faster.

It’s the Canberra way!

First post…felt compelled to comment.

As a recent arrival from a very rainy country….I partially agree with the OP, though not with the sentiment because I’ve seen a few divs driving way too fast today….bad driving, poor skills, no wet experience, and a sliding back end from trying to pull away too fast with dry tires on a very wet road….a lot of these tires just cannot eject this volume of water quick enough so you’re skating on ice if you drive too fast.

Twice today I’ve been following drivers who’ve approached lights that have changed to amber right in front of them, only for the drivers to slam the brakes on and come to a shuddering halt…..one of them at the very bottom of Northbourne actually stopped way over the white lines right where you walk…pure nerves but bloody dangerous for people waiting to cross and following vehicles.
1. You stop when it’s safe to stop…..if there’s a chance of an aquaplane then keep bloody going, it’s safer, you won’t slew sideways into the kerb (or people) and you won’t have somebody run in the back of you because you’ve pulled a dangerous stunt. Everyone should take account of greater stopping distances in the rain so don’t bloody panic.
2. These automatics are not good in the rain, you need to slow down using brakes and gears…and if you have no control over the gears then you lose traction by just flooring the brake. Give it a bit of a rev and make it drop a gear, drive a few km/h under that limit so it doesn’t change up, you stick to the road more and take bends easier….plus your brakes will work better when needed.
If there’s anyone up your backside (like a peculiar useless lowered pick up thing?) ..just let them past and watch their back end sliding about.

Lex4evA said :

So you’re one of the idiots that tail gated me this morning on the way to work….

A good driver knows that you drive 5-10km under the speed limit because it takes alot longer to break than in dry conditions.

+1

winter said :

I really don’t think you should be driving…

+1

Simmo said :

Did most of you people who responded to “angrymotorist1” even read what he wrote? He advocates backing off, leaving extra stopping distance, keeping left unless overtaking, and not panicking. That sounds like good driving to me. You all seem to be panicking on the keyboard and having a go at him. Is that how you drive too?

That thought crossed my mind too. I tend to agree with the premise that many people drive way too cautiously in the rain.

Be alert, but not alarmed and all that.

On the other hand, the lady who drove into me a few months back could have taken a bit more care and caution.

You have to take the good with the bad. If that lady was more careful then I wouldn’t have been without my car for almost three months.

That accident happened on a day like today, so I’ll be dosing up on chill pills before I leave work this afternoon.

Lex4evA said :

So you’re one of the idiots that tail gated me this morning on the way to work….

A good driver knows that you drive 5-10km under the speed limit because it takes alot longer to break than in dry conditions.

A lot.

Brake.

Simmo said :

Did most of you people who responded to “angrymotorist1” even read what he wrote? He advocates backing off, leaving extra stopping distance, keeping left unless overtaking, and not panicking. That sounds like good driving to me. You all seem to be panicking on the keyboard and having a go at him. Is that how you drive too?

Well, this is RA………

Did most of you people who responded to “angrymotorist1” even read what he wrote? He advocates backing off, leaving extra stopping distance, keeping left unless overtaking, and not panicking. That sounds like good driving to me. You all seem to be panicking on the keyboard and having a go at him. Is that how you drive too?

Is it really that hard to keep left unless overtaking, it’s just good manners.

Onceler said :

milkman said :

Onceler said :

“break” and “brake”. Different meanings, different spellings. Never mind driving too fast or too slow; it’s this sloppy spelling that really gets up my goat!

If there’s one thing that I really don’t want to do it’s get up your goat.

Damn straight, keep your hands offa my goat or else.

Oh, of course, um, hands…

Onceler said :

milkman said :

Onceler said :

“break” and “brake”. Different meanings, different spellings. Never mind driving too fast or too slow; it’s this sloppy spelling that really gets up my goat!

If there’s one thing that I really don’t want to do it’s get up your goat.

Damn straight, keep your hands offa my goat or else.

oops …and brake as well 😀

Buddy, you are a complete twat and I think that people like you should be taken out and shot so the rest of us sane human beings can place safety first – I really hope you die in an awful single vehicle accident as you aquaplane off the side of the road and plunge into a huge ravine – nah, not really, only joking but honestly dude, are you really serious?

milkman said :

Onceler said :

“break” and “brake”. Different meanings, different spellings. Never mind driving too fast or too slow; it’s this sloppy spelling that really gets up my goat!

If there’s one thing that I really don’t want to do it’s get up your goat.

Damn straight, keep your hands offa my goat or else.

Did you have a run in with the mythical female asian volvo driver on P’s?
Or was it the young “male” oblivious to all things around him in the 4 wheeled, 1ltr Japboombox pumping out Nick Skitz with 22inch rims and a fully sick wing on the back?

Either way, they should both take note:

“If you cannot stand the pace then don’t enter the Public Service Grand Prix with your annoying European Ikea hybrid flatpack car and less than Canberra standard driving skills.”

Bring in big rubber bumper bars i say!

Onceler said :

“break” and “brake”. Different meanings, different spellings. Never mind driving too fast or too slow; it’s this sloppy spelling that really gets up my goat!

If there’s one thing that I really don’t want to do it’s get up your goat.

Ben_Dover said :

This morning on William Hovell drive I had to undertake three cars, all driving in the right lane at 60 in a 90 zone, all without lights on, all driven by elderly women who looked absolutely f*ck*ng terrified to be there.

This. I commented to the kids this morning that the most dangerous thing on the roads today was the old dears visibly crapping themselves because it’s rainy. Conditions this morning in the ‘burbs simply weren’t that bad; gentle rain, no standing water, no surface oil, decent light & visibility. No reason to be having a meltdown behind the wheel.

I don’t believe the OP was advocating lead-footedness, or the sort of nit-wit stunts being described here. I read it as a suggestion that people driving in public should have the confidence and competence to do so. Still, it was nice to see him/her cop a good, old-fashioned RA flaming.

“break” and “brake”. Different meanings, different spellings. Never mind driving too fast or too slow; it’s this sloppy spelling that really gets up my goat!

timeeh said :

Better yet, WTF slow down (sit between 5-10 Km/h) to view the crash on the other side of the parkway… 1hr 20m to travel 35Km this morning all because everbody had to stop and gander at the crash on the other side of the road… And back too the stay in the left lane, all too true and been said many times b4.

I didn’t notice a car accident anywhere on the parkway this morning. I thought some numpty slowed down to look at the river….
It only took me an 45 min to cover the parkway distance this morning and I was in the left lane the whole way.

sumarai said :

I break when people like u are behind me

Break what? A leg or an arm?

sumarai said :

I break when people like u are behind me

I can understand your concern in that case, you poor fragile thing!

Taking care in the wet is important.

It would also be wonderful if the retard who drives a grey Renault Koleos and doesn’t put their lights on could try overtaking where it’s two lanes each way, rather than waiting for the Form One Lane then deciding to try to catch up and drive around me in the single lane, then look at me with such shock as I beeped the horn to stop him running me off the road. This is the sort of thing that causes accidents, regardless of the weather.

So the consensus is that it’s ok to drive badly, dangerously, and illegally, in the rain, as long as you do it slowly.

I was going to comment. but having read the comments so far I think it has just about all been said.

The only thing I will agree with in the OP is people should keep left unless over-taking.

That being said, if some twit is sitting in the right lane when they shouldn’t be there the best way to deal with it is to just chill and accept you might be 26 seconds later to work. Tail-gating the crap out of them when in a heightened state of anger is just stupid.

I break when people like u are behind me

Normally I would agree at how twitchy people get on our roads under normal a rainy day but this is anything but normal, with the huge rain puddles, potholes and various other shit that is turning up on the roads this isn’t anything you should be complaining about now…

*insert sarcastic note*
Dear ‘angrymotorist1’, I completely agree with you. Going slow in the right hand lane while it’s raining is pathetic. While we are at it I say we run down over every motorcycle rider and push bike rider who uses the ‘cars road’, juggle babies and chainsaws and try to catch them both in one hand, keep uranium and plutonium under our pillows as well as shave our nuts with a whipper snipper…
*end sarcastic note*

While I can appreciate people going slow in the right hand lane during perfectly dry, clear and nice driving conditions can irritate some, I honestly rank anyone who drives to the conditions a fantastic person and one who cares for others on the roads.
Leave more space, turn your lights on, slow down, that is all common sense and I applaud all people who do that.

You sir, (I use the term loosely) are a ‘Darwin Award’ in the making…

fnaah said :

Can’t tell if you’re trolling, or just retarded…

I would say that trolling The RiotACT is retarded.

In the meantime, all you cocksure drivers who think it’s safe to do whatever speed your car is capable of in the wet, might want to consider that last time we had heavy rain on the Parkway there was a sheet of water a few millimetres thick for a few minutes. That’s enough to get a car aquaplaning, and then there are the deeper puddles which help push the car off the straight line when you’re not aquaplaning.

So please, continue to drive like a dickhead in the rain and count on blind luck to get you to your destination without hitting a wall 🙂

Angrymotorist1, were you the tool who tailgated me along Gungahlin Drive this morning in a silver passat and then proceeded to speed past at around 100km/h before cutting in front of other cars to get to the Ginninnderra Drive turn off?? If so, I hope you realised that despite your desperate efforts to get in front of everyone and drive dangerously, we all caught up to you at the lights at Ginninderra Drive. Next time just think perhaps how you might feel for the rest of your life if your actions like this morning were to cause an accident that killed an innocent person…..

The only thing that surprises me about this post is that more brainless bogan retards, who should never have been given a licence, haven’t come out of the woodwork to support the OP.

Angry Motorist, if you happy to get in a car accident because you were going to fast to see that with all this rain several potholes have formed making the roads even more dangerous then go ahead, but i suggest maybe you leave for work a little bit earlier slow down or even catch the bus as nov865 suggested, because this rain isnt easing up any time soon and you are just going to have to deal with it.

So you’re one of the idiots that tail gated me this morning on the way to work….

A good driver knows that you drive 5-10km under the speed limit because it takes alot longer to break than in dry conditions.

I look forward to your impending stress related heart attack.

I’m with the OP on this one. Some drivers are bad enough in the dry, letting them out in the wet is just asking for trouble.

This morning on William Hovell drive I had to undertake three cars, all driving in the right lane at 60 in a 90 zone, all without lights on, all driven by elderly women who looked absolutely f*ck*ng terrified to be there.

Being a gambling man I’d bet money money you drive a 4WD ute, tradie perhaps?

Quote from Road Ready driving tips for anyone who may have forgotten this section when they were going for their licence:

“Driving on a wet road is very different to driving in dry conditions. You need to remember to drive slower! Visibility can be a real problem in the wet. Reflections in the water on the road and wet windows can make it very difficult for you to see others on the road – cars, trucks, motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians – and for them to see you.”

http://www.roadready.act.gov.au/c/roadready?a=sp&pid=1098841144

borizuka said :

Limestone Av:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/109059937494552353803/albums/5714729380595736641/5714729380402886386

Was that a Swift & Shift van?

Wet weather seems to bring out the numpties. Idiots who don’t use their lights despite the early morning gloom or use driving lights with the intensity of 1000 suns; idiots who seem to aim for every patch of water on the road; idiots who weave in and out of traffic just to gain a few metres in crawling traffic.

Some twat honked me this morning because I let another car turn from a side street into a line of traffic that had moved about 10 metres in a minute.

Yeah, right on.

Driving to the conditions is for pussies.

When it’s raining we should all speed up so we get to our destinations faster.

Limestone Av:

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/109059937494552353803/albums/5714729380595736641/5714729380402886386

Better yet, WTF slow down (sit between 5-10 Km/h) to view the crash on the other side of the parkway… 1hr 20m to travel 35Km this morning all because everbody had to stop and gander at the crash on the other side of the road… And back too the stay in the left lane, all too true and been said many times b4.

We should all drive very slowly in the rain. After all, it IS really, really scary.

Now I know why they’ve felt the need to put an electronic sign on Adelaide Ave that essentially says “It’s raining, so don’t drive like a tool”.

Angrymotorist, it appears you have gotten your pills mixed up this morning,

remember, when you wake up, take your chill pills, not your f$ckwit pills.

I’m guessing that cars going a little bit slower, in the long run, takes a lot less time then a collision.

Have a think about it, if your the only one going at the speed limit, doesn’t that mean that you are in the wrong? It is a limit, not a minimum.

Can’t tell if you’re trolling, or just retarded…

I’d rather be late 10 minutes than have an accident or even be dead.

Anyone that tailgates me or shows aggresive and potentially dangerous driving gets a slow down. There is no need to be aggressive or ‘angry’. Unless you’ve got sirens on your roof, what’s 5 – 10 minutes?

“why is everyone driving slowly when it’s raining”

You, sir, are a complete f%^cking numpty.

It frightens me that I have to share the roads with someone as stupid as this.

Knobs like you are the most dangerous things on the road, wet or dry! Do us all a favour and get the bus.

I really don’t think you should be driving…