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Banking security

By Peewee Slasher - 22 October 2010 17

I was having my Friday morning coffe at 9:00 am. my ususal choice of cafe being Michels at Lanyon shops.

Chubb security were doing their fine job of attending to the ATM’s and I noticed something unusual. The security person removed the receipt drawer, i.e, the secure slot through which you can place your transaction receipt knowing that no one else can get to it. Personally, I take mine away and dispose of it thoughtfully afterwards at home.

Mr Chubby carried the tray to the publicly available bin and emptied the contents into it. I saw a man approach him, ask a question…I’m guessing “Are those the receipts you’ve just thrown in there?” some sort of short reply from Mr Chubby and an animated response from the questioner.

The banks preach security to us through media campaigns including their statement mail outs and here’s a person tipping the entire proceeds of the receipt box into a bin.

Anyone out there clever enough to work out what to do with those receipts, they’re there, waiting for you.

Oh, St George… you have a problem.

What’s Your opinion?


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17 Responses to
Banking security
phil m 11:24 am 23 Oct 10

THe bank probably told Chubb it is their responsibility to clean out the receipt collector but failed to tell them what they were actually supposed to do with it.

Davo111 1:58 am 23 Oct 10

Grail said :

That slot is a bin, placed there to stop the piles of receipts building up around the ATM. It was never intended to be secure disposal for the receipt.

i’m pretty sure ive seen “secure bin” written on the slot.

According to NAB they’re supposed to be secure. http://www.nab.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/nab/nab/home/about_us/22/4

Anyway, i dont think they have anything personal on them. If you’re with st george it asks you if you want to print reciept or display balance or continue.

M0les 11:09 pm 22 Oct 10

Dang! I’m actually not that bad a mathematics, I just got inspiration while writing the list.
(Ed: If you ed. comments, can you make it 1,2,3,4?) KTHXBAI!

M0les 11:07 pm 22 Oct 10

#2 +1

I had an information security background, many lives ago. Only a prize dingbat would consider the receipt bin a secure destruction receptacle.

How do I deal with it:
#1 Don’t print a receipt if you have the option
#2 Dump them in the burn-bag at work
#2 Tear-through sensitive information and dispose of in at least two geographically isolated bins
#3 Just don’t worry about it unless you’re a squillionaire or a foreign agent.

bd84 10:26 pm 22 Oct 10

Never been anything secure about them, other than providing a place to bin them. I don’t see why there are so many idiots out there who have the machine print out the receipt then just bin it when you can select “show balance on screen”.

Captain RAAF 8:11 pm 22 Oct 10

Mathman said :

niftydog said :

Immediately eating the receipt is the only way to be sure.

No, nuking the entire site from orbit, is the only way to be sure!

grumpyrhonda 7:12 pm 22 Oct 10

Grail said :

Remember folks, assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

Big thumbs up on that! I take my receipts home and anything I have with personal information is shredded.

Pork Hunt 4:45 pm 22 Oct 10

Grail said :

That slot is a bin, placed there to stop the piles of receipts building up around the ATM. It was never intended to be secure disposal for the receipt.

You will notice for example that it is mounted on the outside of the ATM and is usually made of thin sheet metal or acrylic. This bin is “secure” in that someone coming along behind you will have trouble identifying that you are the person who just withdrew $1000 in cash and have ten grand left in your account.

Remember folks, assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

Google informs me that there is one Saint Mary of the Assumption.
If she is a mother then I want to know who the father is?

Mathman 4:25 pm 22 Oct 10

niftydog said :

Secure? Hardly. If you are paying attention to all the ‘preaching’ your bank is doing then you wouldn’t be disposing of your receipts in public places at all.

Immediately eating the receipt is the only way to be sure.

intaba 3:53 pm 22 Oct 10

niftydog said :

What I want to know is why so many people print the receipt and then IMMEDIATELY throw it in the bin!?!?! Press the “display balance on screen” button you muppets!!!

I always get distracted by the money coming out. By the time I look up it’s back to the welcome screen.

Diggety 3:51 pm 22 Oct 10

Boo hoo.

niftydog 3:32 pm 22 Oct 10

Secure? Hardly. If you are paying attention to all the ‘preaching’ your bank is doing then you wouldn’t be disposing of your receipts in public places at all.

What I want to know is why so many people print the receipt and then IMMEDIATELY throw it in the bin!?!?! Press the “display balance on screen” button you muppets!!!

Grail 2:55 pm 22 Oct 10

As for the details on the receipt: they should/must contain an ATM number, transaction number, timestamp, ATM operator fee, amount withdrawn, remaining balance.

There should not be any other information such as account number, your name, card number or financial institution name.

If any identifying details are present, or any of the necessary details are not there, complain to your financial institution.

Sadly I cannot find the reference from which I assimilated this material, but this came to me on a brochure about ATMs, telling customers about how to read the receipts. It was specifically pointing out that the only way to identify you as the person conducting the transaction is for someone else to see you holding it.

This information security and the little receipt bins are both the result of ATM users being lazy bastards who won’t even walk to the bin three metres away.

Grail 2:42 pm 22 Oct 10

That slot is a bin, placed there to stop the piles of receipts building up around the ATM. It was never intended to be secure disposal for the receipt.

You will notice for example that it is mounted on the outside of the ATM and is usually made of thin sheet metal or acrylic. This bin is “secure” in that someone coming along behind you will have trouble identifying that you are the person who just withdrew $1000 in cash and have ten grand left in your account.

Remember folks, assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

lizw 2:37 pm 22 Oct 10

It’s not an unusual occurrence. I’ve seen staff from many different banks empty the receipts into public bins.

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