Beware the bat man!

johnboy 9 July 2009 81

The police are warning of bad pills they came across last year bearing a Batman imprint and a triple cocktail of drugs:

    ACT Policing is issuing a warning to the public after two separate seizures of ecstasy, which were analysed and found to contain a dangerous mixture of substances.

    The tablets were found to contain Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA), Benzylpiperazine (BZP) and Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine (TFMPP).

    Overseas cases have shown that the combination of these three substances have can lead to serious illness and death in some cases.

    In a case in Canberra in October 2008, a 24-year-old man was hospitalised after consuming two tablets, one of which contained MDMA, and the other containing BZP and TFMPP.

    Detective Senior Constable Mark Battye, Coordinator of Drug and Alcohol Policy for ACT Policing said “Taking these types of pills may seem harmless at the time, however you simply don’t know what else is in these tablets.

    “People taking these types of tablets are taking a big gamble with their health and their lives. The people making and selling these tablets don’t care, they just want money.

    “These tablets may still be in circulation and were urge anyone who may sight these tablets being sold, or may know some who is selling them to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via the website www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. It is also important to remind members of the public that they can remain anonymous when providing information through Crime Stoppers,” Detective Senior Constable Battye said.


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Danman Danman 8:22 am 13 Jul 09

Dope and magic mushrooms grow naturally. Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, Benzylpiperazine and Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine don’t.

Death Cap Mushrooms, Nightshade and Oleander grow naturally as well…Just because its natural it does not mean it is good for you or not going to kill you…

Peekz Peekz 8:32 pm 12 Jul 09

farnarkler said :

Dope and magic mushrooms grow naturally. Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, Benzylpiperazine and Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine don’t.

Your point being? Dope and Mushrooms can be equally as harmful and destructive when abused.

farnarkler farnarkler 8:12 pm 12 Jul 09

Gotta love schadenfreud. If people want to get the hit from pills and end up ill, suckos to them. There are enough warnings about drugs, just like there are about drink driving and no-one feels sorry for those caught drink driving.

As for legalisation, I’m all for canberra becoming the Amsterdam of the Southern Hemisphere. Dope and magic mushrooms grow naturally. Methylenedioxymethamphetamine, Benzylpiperazine and Trifluoromethylphenylpiperazine don’t.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 4:47 pm 12 Jul 09

johnboy said :

Chemicals do not have any inherent morality.

They’re not “good” or “bad”. They just are.

People on the other hand can and will choose to take chemicals and should be responsible for the future outcomes both in terms of their health and their actions while under the influence of those chemicals.

Booze is my intoxicant of choice, but to pretend that it’s in anyway inherently morally superior over other chemicals is, for mine, the argument of a moron.

Agreed. But even though I’m partial to a few wines, scotches etc. myself I still wouldn’t buy a bottle of homemade ‘booze’ from someone I don’t know standing in an a darkened ally behind a club, especially when I don’t know what’s in the bottle, how it’s been made or by who.

Now I’ve never taken illicit drugs and never will, but it seems to me that taking these pills is about the same as base jumping. Risk your own life if that’s how you need to get a buzz but please make sure you don’t ruin someone else’s life by landing on them.

ahappychappy ahappychappy 2:29 pm 12 Jul 09

^^ nuff said? 😉

Peekz Peekz 10:41 am 11 Jul 09

Joshua said :

Hey Jim and others, here’s a thought, next time you’re popping your pills, spare a thought for Bob Knight and his family and friends. Your good night out paid for the gun and bullets.

My god, get off your high horse.

How about next time you have a drink, spare a though for the millions of people who have died or been affected negatively by drunk drivers, domestic abuse, alcohol-fuelled violence, liver failure, or any of the other adverse affects on society that alcohol can be a part of. How about next time you or anyone you know smokes, spare a thought for the millions of people who have died from lung cancer, and the drain that smoking puts on the public health system.

But it’s ok because those things are legal. Nothing legal can be harmful or negative, right?

People are going to take drugs whether it’s legal or not, whther you like it or not. Just the same as whether they smoke/drink or not. It’s a lifestyle choice. Yes there are risks involved and going into it blind (as with anything) is stupid, however don’t be a hypocrite and pipe up about one thing while ignoring things that are worse and easier to acquire, yet taxable by the government.

Open your eyes.

Georgia Georgia 9:56 am 11 Jul 09

Hmm. No one is really asking for my opinion, but ill give it anyway. WE all pay our taxes and a very large majority goes towards healthcare and welfare. But if we didn’t, then theses people wouldn’t receive help when they really need it. everyone (even if their choices are really dumb) deserves healthcare full stop.

I can understand the frustration when well educated folk continue to drink too much and smoke. part of me thinks they deserve it if they continue the same cycle of addiction.

Pill popping is especially dangerous because you never know what their been cut with. and what the effects will be. But thats apart of the thrill of taking the pills i guess. it appeals to that demographic.

Its still really dumb in my opinion. If you know the risks and still continue to do it then the only person you have to blame is yourself.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 5:36 pm 10 Jul 09

I think he means this guy: http://the-riotact.com/?p=12676

In the specific sense: Only if they were having a night out on methamphetamine.

In the general: No more than the legal drink you have on a Friday night is today’s legacy of the work of history’s bootleggers and black marketeers who kept the taps flowing through Prohibition periods, and were quite effective at encouraging the public to disobey prohibition law, frustrate law enforcement by enjoying the protection of their customers, and assisting law makers to realise it was much easier just to tax things.
(They were armed mostly because the police were armed, and so were the other black-marketeers. Despite the actions of people like King O’Malley and the Temperance Unions, the ACT’s short-lived prohibition period (1911 – 1927) ended.
Profits were so good mostly because people prefer not to deal with reality when there are alternatives, and preferred the convenience of someone else making it to making it themselves. Taxing it also allowed it to be regulated, and quality of product improved. IE: There were less people dying from impurities\byproducts like methanol, or routinely overdosing in their own homes since they could now be taken to hospital for care without being summarily punished)

And just for any punters, I don’t pill myself, I just don’t think rampant prohibition and outlawing sale is effective when large demand, human greed & handing control to criminal organisations will all combine to make an untaxed black market.
If you make selling a specific product a crime, then by definition, the only people selling that product and fighting for control of its market will be the criminals.

el el 5:04 pm 10 Jul 09
Joshua Joshua 4:56 pm 10 Jul 09

Hey Jim and others, here’s a thought, next time you’re popping your pills, spare a thought for Bob Knight and his family and friends. Your good night out paid for the gun and bullets.

Tooks Tooks 4:53 pm 10 Jul 09

ahappychappy said :

Unfortunately, the AFP seem to have taken too long and the “Green Batmans” will have all been eaten by now.

I could be wrong, but I believe the 2 seizures mentioned were from May this year. If that’s the case, there’d probably be a few more batman pills around.

FC FC 4:09 pm 10 Jul 09

“but dey r ezy 2 spot wit da lvl of dere intelect” Love it!

Fair point Jim Jones.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 4:06 pm 10 Jul 09

There’s a pretty big difference between “feeling a little less sorry” for someone and such douchebag statements as: “I don’t give a crap what people do to themselves as long as my taxes and insurance fees don’t pay for the ambulance, hospital and post addiction recovery costs.”

I’m a big fan of schaudenfreude, but I’m not gonna act like some kinda selfish jerkwad when someone ODs and needs an ambulance.

ahappychappy ahappychappy 4:05 pm 10 Jul 09

LOL @ Jim ^^ ahahahaha!

Anyway back on hand, the problem with “ecstacy” (even though there are hardly ANY pills with MDMA (the real ecstacy) in them anymore as its usually MDA, MDEA or cut with speed, ketamine or any other form of piperazine) is the fact that people aren’t educated about the effects of each chemical, what to do when and IF something goes wrong, and how these little pills work.

The ONLY time people get themselves into trouble is when they dump 10 in an hour, drink too much/too little water, or they combine them with other substances (whether alcohol, another illicit chemical, or prescription drugs). USUALLY, a single pill (even if cut with something a little bit nasty) wont give you too much issue, until the dosage becomes too high.

The educated people are usually the safest, I myself once upon a time whilst partying always did the research online (there are MANY sites who offer this sort of advice, yes there ARE dealers on these sites trying to convince you their gear is the best, but dey r ezy 2 spot wit da lvl of dere intelect), and made sure that if a few of the mates were on the gear, we had someone to look after us if something went wrong. Until people wake up and use some common sense, the issues will keep cropping up. Unfortunately, the AFP seem to have taken too long and the “Green Batmans” will have all been eaten by now.

FC FC 3:57 pm 10 Jul 09

come on guys, I’m sre you can see Joshua’s point can’t you?
Not that I agree with it, and I believe everyone deserves support and help, no matter if their injury/condition is self caused. But haven’t you ever felt a little less sorry for, say, a person injured in a car accident when they lost control doing burnouts, than a person who was injured while ‘not’ doing something risky?

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:46 pm 10 Jul 09

It’s a little known fact that the Dodo died out after they all refused to wear seatbelts; paramedics attending car crashes wouldn’t treat the fatally wounded birds because they considered this to be a criminal misuse of Joshua’s tax dollars.

chewy14 chewy14 3:33 pm 10 Jul 09

Its in their Jim, you just didn’t look hard enough

He goes on at length about the Galapagos Gang, a band of now extinct satanic motorcycle riding tortoises.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:20 pm 10 Jul 09

Ah touche.

Now I’m off to find that book, detailing how Darwin’s great discovery regarding the evolution of life on Earth was about clearing land of creature who ‘do stupid things, like ride a motorcycle without a helmet’.

I’ll be sure to turn up to your biology lectures.

Joshua Joshua 3:16 pm 10 Jul 09

Hey Jim I think you better get back to your village. They’re missing you.

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