Blake Ferguson in trouble again

bundah said :

Speaking of the old school Raiders players I recall hearing that there was an occasion where Brett Mullins,who used to get pissed quite regularly in public and apparently behave like a tool,drove his car into a tree on Northbourne Ave at about 5am whilst pissed.The story goes that the plod turned up and bundled him into their car and drove him home.Does anyone recall that incident?

Not that one. But I’ve heard that the Raiders put a clause into his last contract banning him from Kippax Tavern.

Anyone surprised?

Seriously?

Something is seriously wrong at the club when it throws up Carney, Dugan and Ferguson…

There is a lot wrong with the sport but I don’t agree the club is to blame. All three have publicly been on various final warnings and have chosen to go out and do stupid things in their own time. I’m sure the club would love to keep them chained up while not training or playing, but they can only do so much.

And League’s problems are hardly limited to the Raiders…

Personally, I’m tired of reading positive news stories about players “turning their lives around” in a matter of days or weeks, only for that player to 100% prove they simply cannot be trusted to behave like a normal person. Especially when the player is or was playing for the Raiders.

Speaking of the old school Raiders players I recall hearing that there was an occasion where Brett Mullins,who used to get pissed quite regularly in public and apparently behave like a tool,drove his car into a tree on Northbourne Ave at about 5am whilst pissed.The story goes that the plod turned up and bundled him into their car and drove him home.Does anyone recall that incident?

I have heard it said that Rugby is a mugs game played by gentlemen whereas League is a gentlemen’s game(not so sure about that) played by mugs(or is that thugs).Perhaps the Raiders could learn a thing or two about how to conduct themselves in public from the Brumbies?

grunge_hippy said :

James_Ryan said :

bundah said :

What is it with the Raiders star players in recent years??

Alcohol.

bullshit. You used to see old school players like Ricky, Mal, Laurie etc drunk off their tits in civic all the time. Difference is now that every dickhead has a phone and can snap a pic of them being a dumbarse (or they take it themselves…. duh!) Every bimbo with a famewhore gene sees it as their 30 seconds of fame or their ticket to being a WAG and then gets cranky when they reject them. Yes, I’m sure they did dumb things back then, just like these guys are, difference being no one gave a shit because they were seen as footy players, not role models. The minute we started getting all goody two shoes about the evils of alcohol and these glorified bogans with a lot of cash as role models, we see this sort of stuff. Messrs Dugan and Ferguson being prime examples.

Oh, and it was just on the news, he’s been charged with indecent assault.

+1000

If ever there was a reason for the ACT Government to stop all funding of professional sporting teams in the ACT, this is it.

gungsuperstar said :

m00nee said :

Don Furner is just annoyed that he didn’t do it in Canberra, because they were not able to cover it up.

This is just another example of the how far removed from reality that the culture at the raiders is. The players think they can do what they want, where they want, whenever they want. And instead of controlling their behaviour the raiders management cover it up because the players concerned are ‘too important to the club’.

You’re an idiot.

Yep, Monaghan and Carney were covered up well in Canberra weren’t they?

You clearly don’t know a thing about rugby league – the travesty of this is the exact opposite of what you say. The Raiders have already been screwed because they upheld standards around Dugan, who was allowed to play again 2 months later.

And the same thing will happen now. The media is already reporting that the Raiders are pissed off that Ferguson was out with Dugan – he lied to them and told them he was going to Sydney to spend a night with family before Origin.

Given he’s already on a “final warning” for his last act of stupidity with Dugan, this will be an easy decision for the Raiders. He’ll be sacked by the end of the week (as early as Tuesday morning), and it will be nothing to do with the charges that have been laid.

And the Raiders will again be screwed when Parramatta or the Roosters sign him up before the end of the season because we’re the only club in the NRL that upholds our players to any standards.

gungsuperstar, I really think you’ve missed the point.

You mention Carney and Monaghan. To use your examples, how many driving offences did Carney get away with? How many times did the raiders collect Carney from police custody, drunk as a skunk? How many times was Monaghan ejected from clubs for lewd behaviour? The raiders has for years covered up the behaviour of the players. What they are dealing with now is the result of years of cover-ups, with players who know that they are almost immune from prosocution, as long as they perform their acts within Canberra. it’s very difficult for the raiders to now take a moral stand when they have raised a team with a culture of alcoholic deviants, without “breaking a few eggs”.

The people have been sacked were caught because what they did was outside of the control of the raiders:
Carney – Goulburn and an act in Canberra where the complainant refused to back down.
Moghnahan – instagram/twitter
Dugan – instagram/twitter
Ferguson – Cronulla

It would be very interesting reading if the raiders released the reports that they provided the NRL regarding the off field behaviour of Carney and Dugan.

grunge_hippy said :

James_Ryan said :

bundah said :

What is it with the Raiders star players in recent years??

Alcohol.

bullshit. You used to see old school players like Ricky, Mal, Laurie etc drunk off their tits in civic all the time. Difference is now that every dickhead has a phone and can snap a pic of them being a dumbarse (or they take it themselves…. duh!) Every bimbo with a famewhore gene sees it as their 30 seconds of fame or their ticket to being a WAG and then gets cranky when they reject them. Yes, I’m sure they did dumb things back then, just like these guys are, difference being no one gave a shit because they were seen as footy players, not role models. The minute we started getting all goody two shoes about the evils of alcohol and these glorified bogans with a lot of cash as role models, we see this sort of stuff. Messrs Dugan and Ferguson being prime examples.

Oh, and it was just on the news, he’s been charged with indecent assault.

I’m glad someone has brought up the subject of how females throw themselves at footballers. It might not be fashionable in these politically correct “misogynist” days but young girls regard getting laid by a footballer to be an honour and they love it. I remember when I was at a game in the early ’90s girls shoving bits of paper with their phone numbers into the back pockets of players as they left the change rooms. Nothing has changed. Perhaps we should look at rolling back the sexual assault laws to exempt groping and kissing. Maybe scrapping them altogether if females are involved.

m00nee said :

Don Furner is just annoyed that he didn’t do it in Canberra, because they were not able to cover it up.

This is just another example of the how far removed from reality that the culture at the raiders is. The players think they can do what they want, where they want, whenever they want. And instead of controlling their behaviour the raiders management cover it up because the players concerned are ‘too important to the club’.

You’re an idiot.

Yep, Monaghan and Carney were covered up well in Canberra weren’t they?

You clearly don’t know a thing about rugby league – the travesty of this is the exact opposite of what you say. The Raiders have already been screwed because they upheld standards around Dugan, who was allowed to play again 2 months later.

And the same thing will happen now. The media is already reporting that the Raiders are pissed off that Ferguson was out with Dugan – he lied to them and told them he was going to Sydney to spend a night with family before Origin.

Given he’s already on a “final warning” for his last act of stupidity with Dugan, this will be an easy decision for the Raiders. He’ll be sacked by the end of the week (as early as Tuesday morning), and it will be nothing to do with the charges that have been laid.

And the Raiders will again be screwed when Parramatta or the Roosters sign him up before the end of the season because we’re the only club in the NRL that upholds our players to any standards.

This sort of crap is why I don’t pay attention to professional sports. Cricketers biffing each other in pubs. Gangs of out of control hoods having group sex with women who don’t necessarily want it. Blokes sticking their dicks in dogs mouths. Team captains savagely assaulting other players. Men crapping in hotel corridors. Performance enhancing drug injections. I could probably write ten thousand words consisting of short sentences detailing the individual instances of actions of professional sportsmen that I’ve found disgusting since my boys were born.

I’ve talked this stuff over with my sons, and (probably because I’m their Dad and they respect my views), they agree with me. Professional sports in this country are a never ending joke with no punch line. There have been some outstandingly good men out there (Hazem el Masri and Alan Tongue spring to mind), but they seem to be in the minority.

Being a man consists of more than just having lots of muscles and hair around your penis. To qualify as a man, you have to behave like a man, which involves demonstrating courage, strength, kindness, intelligence, gentleness, courtesy, respect for others, dignity and pride in oneself, among other things.

The current generation of high profile professional sportsmen are in the main unmanly, according to my definition of the word. They exemplify what I do not want my sons to become as they grow to become men.

James_Ryan said :

bundah said :

What is it with the Raiders star players in recent years??

Alcohol.

bullshit. You used to see old school players like Ricky, Mal, Laurie etc drunk off their tits in civic all the time. Difference is now that every dickhead has a phone and can snap a pic of them being a dumbarse (or they take it themselves…. duh!) Every bimbo with a famewhore gene sees it as their 30 seconds of fame or their ticket to being a WAG and then gets cranky when they reject them. Yes, I’m sure they did dumb things back then, just like these guys are, difference being no one gave a shit because they were seen as footy players, not role models. The minute we started getting all goody two shoes about the evils of alcohol and these glorified bogans with a lot of cash as role models, we see this sort of stuff. Messrs Dugan and Ferguson being prime examples.

Oh, and it was just on the news, he’s been charged with indecent assault.

There should be a policy where any player punted from an NRL club for misbehavior should be banned for a minimum of one year. In that year they do drug, alcohol, anger management, cultural awareness, how to treat women, children, animals, etc, and work 40 hours a week labouring.

The player cannot be resigned by an NRL or Super League club unless the player successfully completes those programs and employment in that 12 months.

Then, if they have ticked all those boxes in that first 12 months, they can’t be signed up that for more than 100K a year for 2 years. If they don’t tick the boxes – they are banned for life.

This kind of policy shows the community and the NRL that the player is genuinely remorseful about his indiscretion. It also educates the player, gets them out of their comfort zone and gives him a sense of achievement to have completed such a difficult 12 months.

bundah said :

What is it with the Raiders star players in recent years??

Alcohol.

Don Furner is just annoyed that he didn’t do it in Canberra, because they were not able to cover it up.

This is just another example of the how far removed from reality that the culture at the raiders is. The players think they can do what they want, where they want, whenever they want. And instead of controlling their behaviour the raiders management cover it up because the players concerned are ‘too important to the club’.

Holden Caulfield said :

Maybe he wants to play for St George too.

Yeah thats the real issue. His mate gets sacked and in the same year gets picked for origin and reputedly sign a 4 yr $2.8 million contract, except he really probably has not learnt his lesson.
Yet Canberra seem to be the only club sacking misbehaving players who then get snapped up by rival clubs!

NRL really needs to do something about this and they haven’t. Tamou is out of the next origin game, but if NSW lose, he’ll be straight back into the team, just like dugan, because the result of the game is more important than setting an example.

What is it with the Raiders star players in recent years??

Maybe he wants to play for St George too.