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Booked for a yellow light !

By Gord0 - 16 April 2008 59

My partner and her workmate were driving home in her workmate’s car (“normal car” – no rice/crab puller, driver has 12pt impeccable record) from Woden to Wanniassa up Athllon dr. After going through the 60kmh zone traffic light on a yellow (just as they arrived at the interesection) an unmarked cop cars light up and pulls them up.

The standard pointless questioning occurs “why didn’t you stop?” etc with no backchat to make it worse.

Cop then preceded to issue a ticket for “failing to stop at yellow signal”, 3 demerit points and $250 fine.

Who else knew that you had to STOP at a yellow in ACT ?

Not *slow*.. not “be aware of other road users at the intersection and proceed throught he intersection at a steady pace” as I was taught by a respected driving instructer.

But STOP.

This seems a great way for

a) easy profitable tickets to be issued and

b) get the smash repairers some more bucks for Canberra’s most popular accy – the rearender.

Of course smart drivers slow at a yellow spotted far off and then pull up and stop to save brakes and tyres, give drivers behind some time to react and let the tyres work better if it’s wet weather or dodgy road surface.

Aside from still hitting the skids at red light camera intersections (thanks $govt$) I won’t be changing my driving style any time soon, my insurance excess and vehicle’s panelwork is fine thanks.

What’s Your opinion?


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59 Responses to
Booked for a yellow light !
blaringmike 9:50 pm 16 Apr 08

Wow what a surprise another retarted Cop filling his ticket quota.

You cant beat the system. Take it to court and you will lose. Just have to take it on the chin. Good luck if you do challenge it though.

Mr Waffle 9:34 pm 16 Apr 08

Where was the cop car that they was able to see it was a yellow light? You could only know that if you’re following. If they was following, they ran a yellow (or possibly red by that point) light! Break the law to enforce the law…

bd84 9:28 pm 16 Apr 08

From the ACT Road Rules Handbook:

“Yellow circle light warns that the red signal is about to come on. You must stop at
the stop line and not enter the intersection or junction. You may enter the intersection
if you are so close to the stop line that a sudden stop might cause an accident.”

Most people take the risk and don’t get caught, I know I have, it sounds like your partner took the gamble and was unlucky. Someone did exactly the same thing infront of me a couple of weeks ago at a turn signal, I had plenty of time to stop and so did they, the police divisional van stopped to turn left on my front left observed the other traffic stop and the other vehicle continue (the light changed to red as they were 3/4 out of the intersection), then did a U-turn and went after them. The chances of getting out of the ticket are slim as the officer’s observation skills take in more than just the orange light colour in those situations.

Felix the Cat 8:58 pm 16 Apr 08

gooterz said :

I thought it was that if it went red, before ur back wheels are over the first white line. Thats how the speed cameras work, due to where the sensors are.

No it doesn’t! There was an article in The Chronicle the other week about some Gungahlian Mercedes owner that got pinged by the red light camera for stopping with his front wheels just over the white line at the Gungahlin Dr/Gundaroo Dr intersection at Gungahlin. He thought the same.

luke79 8:51 pm 16 Apr 08

i had a goose lock up his car for a yellow light which in turn made me lock up my work van which doesnt stop too well in a hurry because of it’s weight.. anyways i ran up his ass and i ended up with a ticket for $280 not to mention the excess for insurance. i didnt think the driver in front of me stopped if it was safe to do so, the fact an accident occured after his skidding pretty much proved my point, but anyways i just copped it and paid the fine. if i had taken it to court it would have ended up costing me more even if i got off the fine. i dont have a problem with cops or anything like that just sometimes you get the odd cop who is out to make a dickhead of himself.

Deano 8:49 pm 16 Apr 08

Lenient said :

everyone who bothered to listened to their driving instructor, also this is Australia wide… stop if safe to do so. If you contest, you will to demonstrate that it wasn’t.

Do the crime, do the time

I vaguely recall something about being innocent until proven guilty being part of our legal system. Having a witness in the car will certainly help.

Lenient 8:42 pm 16 Apr 08

>Who else knew that you had to STOP at a yellow in ACT ?

everyone who bothered to listened to their driving instructor, also this is Australia wide… stop if safe to do so. If you contest, you will to demonstrate that it wasn’t.

Do the crime, do the time

gooterz 8:30 pm 16 Apr 08

I thought it was that if it went red, before ur back wheels are over the first white line. Thats how the speed cameras work, due to where the sensors are.

el 8:00 pm 16 Apr 08

Contest the fine, no question. Yellow means stop if you can safely do so.

Gord0 6:51 pm 16 Apr 08

ta for the info guys, will check out the links and try help her beat the rap as it seemed pretty harsh to me.

ditto on the ‘slow to stop’ rule – still me belief.

What really shocked me though was the fact it appeared on the printed infringement as ‘a yellow light’.

Pandy 6:36 pm 16 Apr 08

See rule 57 in:

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/p6.pdf

Ask the issuing cop if he will state in court that you could have safely stopped before reaching the white line.

Oh I note that white lines are NOT mandatory

Pandy 6:31 pm 16 Apr 08

Yellow means slow to stop. If you are travelling at the speed limit, on see a yellow, you should in a normalised car be able to stop at the white line before the signal goes red.

Contest the fine.

boomacat 6:24 pm 16 Apr 08

I thought that yellow meant “stop if safe to do so”.

Check the Australian Road Rules (available on the internet http://www.legislation.act.gov.au).

mutley...again 6:16 pm 16 Apr 08

I remember the nice young lady copper at the Belconnen traffic school always told us yellow meant stop. Then we would hoon around on our BMXs and knock the little kids off their bikes.

sepi 6:02 pm 16 Apr 08

I thought you were fine as long as the light didn’t turn red at any point while you were in the intersection. (A friend once got pulled over as they said the light went red just as he exited the intersection.)

the cop must’ve been having a very bad day.

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