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Canberra Druggos Out and About

joeyjo 8 July 2006 91

Canberra’s druggos are out and about, kicking off this weekend with a stroll around the streets of braddon completed stoned off their faces. I stepped out of Pirates of the Caribbean and thought for a moment I was looking into the dead eyes of Davey Jones’ crew. Luckily it was just a local druggie making weird noises and following me home.

After trawling through the phone book (so why do you have to turn through 67 pages to find the number for police attendance?) I was on hold for a while before figuring that they would ask me “what do you want me to do about it?” like they did last time I called (to report a brawl in Civic).

Ahh Canberra. You gotta love it. Or not.


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CW CW 8:27 pm 28 Jul 06

If no one has noticed canberra is close to being drug capital of Australia apart from SA which is absolutly crawling with “Tomato Plants”. and it’s not the Marijuana we have to be worried about those people just like to walk around aimlessly with the munchies. it’s those of them who are complete speed and herroin freaks that are to be worried about.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 4:33 pm 11 Jul 06

like I said here

But opinion also stems from other life experiences and varying degrees of intellect etc

there are so many inputs for one to develop an opinion.

Binker Binker 4:23 pm 11 Jul 06

“Its a combination of the two that is correct and the argument thus far has been extremely polarised into good/ bad, yes/ no, black/ white.” My point exactly, the world is grey cognitively constructing it in a dichotomous manner makes life simple: drug users are scum, aboriginals are drunks, Muslims are terrorists etc a superficial assessment of a situation will thus suffice in order to make a judgment however it is usually inaccurate. Personal experience can push one to be dichotomous, if once you were bashed by a drunken man then it is natural to fear all drunken men and perceive them all as a threat irrespective of the actual risk they present.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 4:20 pm 11 Jul 06

the balance… thats all

Thumper Thumper 4:09 pm 11 Jul 06

No, point I was getting across was a bit like, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, then it probably is.

I knew I had been bitten by a brown snake. An Eastern brown at that. That the doctor questioned me about me being bitten (actually, he said something along the lines of “how do you know you’ve been bitten by a snake” when he had never seen a snake was a bit rich.

Anyway. Point is, both sides of the argument are right, and both are wrong. Its a combination of the two that is correct and the arguement thus far has been extremely polarised into good/ bad, yes/ no, black/ white.

Binker Binker 3:58 pm 11 Jul 06

Thumper
I would say your initial doctor was displaying a lack of knowledge while those at CH were displaying knowledge. Personal experience and knowledge together are often useful providing that the personal experience has not biased your perceptions to the extent that the problem is seen in dichotomous terms (e.g. all drug users are bad, all dual puncture wounds are brown snake bites etc) and thus the complexities of the problem and hence the solution are unappreciated.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 3:53 pm 11 Jul 06

yeah…. espesh by 6am in the morning…. that is scarey….

OT (kind of) – are raves still popular…???

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 3:46 pm 11 Jul 06

AD – agreed that meth addicts are more dangerous when coming down, but can you imagine a room the size of Gooseheads rammed to the gunwhales with meth-freaks?

If you weren’t high yourself, that would be righteously scary.

Actually – sounds kinda like the last drum ‘n bass rave I went to…

Thumper Thumper 3:39 pm 11 Jul 06

Sorry, off topic, however…

“By that sort of reasoning the argument that “I have cancer (or my cousin has cancer) therefore I know more about cancer than a Doctor who has undertaken detailed study of cancer but has never treated a patient with cancer or had it himself” would be valid.

An unsustainable assertion.”

I once got bitten on the foot by a brown snake. I know I was bitten cause I felt it, and I could see the fang marks. I also could see the snake slithering away.

I applied the compress bandage to myself in a correct fashion and drove to Florey medical centre where I saw a doctor.

The doctor said to me, ‘I am from New Zealand and I have never seen a snake so I cannot help you.”

He did offer to call an ambulance, but I was was so incredulous, and maybe slightly delirious, so I drove to Calvary and thus spent the next 36 hours under constant monitoring.

Point. Sometimes experience is better than knowledge.

However, both together is a pretty workable way of getting things right.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 3:38 pm 11 Jul 06

Shab….. yes I have actually – meth freaks are at their worst when coming down.

I still feel more at risk going to some place like headmooses than somewhere everyone is doped up.

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 3:36 pm 11 Jul 06

Dope-caused murders?

“Know your dope-fiend! Your life may depend on it!”

I thought that went out with 20-life for a baggie of leaf.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 3:35 pm 11 Jul 06

thats when they are off the drugs dude…. or when they are hunting for them.

Mr_Shab Mr_Shab 3:34 pm 11 Jul 06

Ever dealt with a meth freak, AD – I’d suggest otherwise.

Drugs are not a virus, Special G. Also, I’m sure the Indonesians would be thrilled to deal with our junkies.

barking toad barking toad 3:24 pm 11 Jul 06

Drunks more dangerous than those that are drug-fucked?!

Prefer to deal with someone full of ink than someone hyped up on meth or paranoid from excessive cannabis use. The druggies kill (see reports of dope caused murders in Vic) or skin and fuck bunnies or burst guinea pigs ‘cos they forgot the masking tape!

Absent Diane Absent Diane 3:04 pm 11 Jul 06

true but people are far more dangerous when they are drunk than when they are fucked on drugs. it’s just the lifestyle that surrounds the drug when not on it.

Special G Special G 2:58 pm 11 Jul 06

AD – I don’t think I have ever heard of an alcoholic robbing a service station for a bottle of port. The negative consequences associated with drugs and alcohol are different.

Alcohol being affordable doesn’t create the property, robbery, break and enter type crime which the main goal of is to get money for the next hit.

The ongoing effects being trauma to the victims of crime. Which the ACT Courts seem not to give a shit about. Whether the offender has a drug habit or not, they are committing offences. Of course they are remorseful about their actions. They got caught.

Lock them all up before they inflict their filth on the rest of society.

We should move to the NT system – 3 strikes and your out. Send them on a boat to Indonesia.

Absent Diane Absent Diane 2:44 pm 11 Jul 06

thats right the topic is about illegal drug use. But if we want to determine how truly bad (or good) illegal drugs are, a fair juxtaposition would be legal drugs.

snahon snahon 2:39 pm 11 Jul 06

Your statements may be valid Absent Diane but this particular topic of discussion relates to illegal drug use…. besides my point was merely but one example of the potential causal effects of drug use. No need to run off on tangents about abused children resulting from other social porblems….

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 2:25 pm 11 Jul 06

The alcohol question is a very difficult one – most people seem to be able to drink socially and keep it under control, but for the few who let it control them, it ruins lives.

And yet, we can’t really have different rules for different groups. Maybe we could ban all alcohol (except for my home brew, of course).

Absent Diane Absent Diane 2:21 pm 11 Jul 06

the point is you can’t make them out to be any worse than alco’s etc…. it can’t really be used as an excuse for drugs being bad.. because we legalise booze and that has I would suggest an equal amount of negative consequences as well.

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