Cancer Vaccine Doubts

che 25 May 2007 30

The ABC had this story the other day on ACT and Victorian teenage girls being taken to hospital after being given the cervical cancer vaccine, Gardasil.
The idea that something could be wrong was dismissed by ACT Health officials but the US FDA has been advised that it has not been proven safe for children according to the follwing transcript which can be found on this page

MERCK’S GARDASIL VACCINE NOT PROVEN SAFE FOR LITTLE GIRLS

Washington, D.C. – The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC) is calling on the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to just say “no” on June 29 to recommending “universal use” of Merck’s Gardasil vaccine in all pre-adolescent girls. NVIC maintains that Merck’s clinical trials did not prove the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine designed to prevent cervical cancer and genital warts is safe to give to young girls.

“Merck and the FDA have not been completely honest with the people about the pre-licensure clinical trials,” said NVIC president Barbara Loe Fisher. “Merck’s pre and post-licensure marketing strategy has positioned mass use of this vaccine by pre-teens as a morality play in order to avoid talking about the flawed science they used to get it licensed. This is not just about teenagers having sex, it is also about whether Gardasil has been proven safe and effective for little girls.”

The FDA allowed Merck to use a potentially reactive aluminum containing placebo as a control for most trial participants, rather than a non-reactive saline solution placebo. A reactive placebo can artificially increase the appearance of safety of an experimental drug or vaccine in a clinical trial. Gardasil contains 225 mcg of aluminum and, although aluminum adjuvants have been used in vaccines for decades, they were never tested for safety in clinical trials. Merck and the FDA did not disclose how much aluminum was in the placebo.

Animal and human studies have shown that aluminum can cause nerve cell death and that vaccine aluminum adjuvants can allow aluminum to enter the brain, as well as cause inflammation at the injection site leading to chronic joint and muscle pain and fatigue. Nearly 90 percent of Gardasil recipients and 85 percent of aluminum placebo recipients followed-up for safety reported one or more adverse events within 15 days of vaccination, particularly at the injection site.Pain and swelling at injection site occurred in approximately 83 percent of Gardasil and 73 percent of aluminum placebo recipients. About 60 percent of those who got Gardasil or the aluminum placebo had systemic adverse events including headache, fever, nausea, dizziness, vomiting, diarrhea, myalgia. Gardasil recipients had more serious adverse events such as headache, gastroenteritis, appendicitis, pelvic inflammatory disease, asthma, bronchospasm and arthritis.

“Merck and the FDA do not reveal in public documents exactly how many 9 to 15 year old girls were in the clinical trials, how many of them received hepatitis B vaccine and Gardasil simultaneously, and how many of them had serious adverse events after being injected with Gardasil or the aluminum placebo. For example, if there were less than 1,000 little girls actually injected with three doses of Gardasil, it is important to know how many had serious adverse events and how long they were followed for chronic health problems, such as juvenile arthritis.”

According to the Merck product manufacturer insert, there was 1 case of juvenile arthritis, 2 cases of rheumatoid arthritis, 5 cases of arthritis, and 1 case of reactive arthritis out of 11,813 Gardasil recipients plus 1 case of lupus and 2 cases of arthritis out of 9,701 participants primarily receiving an aluminum containing placebo. Clinical trial investigators dismissed most of the 102 Gardasil and placebo associated serious adverse events, including 17 deaths, that occurred in the clinical trials as unrelated.

“There is too little long term safety and efficacy data, especially in young girls, and too little labeling information on contraindications for the CDC to recommend Gardasil for universal use, which is a signal for states to mandate it,” said Fisher. “Nobody at Merck, the CDC or FDA know if the injection of Gardasil into all pre-teen girls – especially simultaneously with hepatitis B vaccine – will make some of them more likely to develop arthritis or other inflammatory autoimmune and brain disorders as teenagers and adults. With cervical cancer causing about one percent of all cancer deaths in American women due to routine pap screening, it was inappropriate for the FDA to fast track Gardasil. It is way too early to direct all young girls to get three doses of a vaccine that has not been proven safe or effective in their age group.”

The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), founded in 1982 by parents of vaccine injured children, has been a leading critic of one-size-fits-all mass vaccination policies and the lack of basic science research into biological mechanisms and high risk factors for vaccine-induced brain and immune system dysfunction. As a member of the FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee (VRBPAC), Barbara Loe Fisher urged trials include adequate safety data on pre-adolescent children and warned against fast tracking Gardasil at the November 28-29, 2001 VRBPAC meeting .


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Brighton QLD Brighton QLD 10:02 pm 08 Jul 07

Ah yes, Borax and Aluminium in the injection please, but hold the herion, that’s illegal. Would rather have Alzhiemers than Cervical Cancer any day.

Catriona Catriona 8:03 pm 29 May 07

“I remember people (females in particular) who had that same reaction when they got needles in high school. They’re just too wound up about it, then end up hyperventilating and fainting. Stop being a baby. If you want to be a baby about it, dont get the shot. But you could end up being a baby with cancer and thats no fun.”

Interesting how females are always stereotyped as “babies” and “hysterical” (words that have been used to keep women in their place for years), but let’s see a man go through the pain of childbirth…then we’ll see who the hysterical ones are.

Special G Special G 9:34 am 28 May 07

People are dying from the new stuff because previously the old stuff got them first.

The vaccine is a great idea. Do your research on it. If you are in a monogomous relationship then you have already been exposed to whatever strains of hpv you and your partner have. If you are likely to shag other people then it is well worthwhile to protect against new strains of hpv you come in contact with.

IT is not 100% like any vaccine and regular checks are important.

schmerica_ schmerica_ 9:22 am 28 May 07

I remember people (females in particular) who had that same reaction when they got needles in high school. They’re just too wound up about it, then end up hyperventilating and fainting. Stop being a baby. If you want to be a baby about it, dont get the shot. But you could end up being a baby with cancer and thats no fun.

Maelinar Maelinar 8:48 am 28 May 07

Instead we’re all dying from this new stuff…

Thumper Thumper 8:17 am 28 May 07

Geez, I’d hate to know what sort of stuff the army pumped into me and what it may do in the future.

Fer Christsakes, it’s a vaccine. If we didn’t have vaccines and medical advances them we’d still be dying from typhoid, smallpox, diptheria, the bubonic plague, etc etc etc.

As mentioned, alarmist retards…

sepi sepi 8:56 pm 27 May 07

do people freak out about the Rubella vaccine too, or just this one cos it is new?

bubzie bubzie 6:59 pm 27 May 07

I’m getting it on thursday, and really, i dont care if i’m going to get a sore arm (according to most people who have got it so far..) or anything else, its better than cervical cancer..

(And ever since they gave out the forms for the vaccine, some chicks at school have been sooo freaked out about it. for gods sake, its only a needle!!)

nyssa76 nyssa76 11:25 am 27 May 07

My family has a history of cervical cancer, so yes I had a good reason for allowing my oldest daughter to get the vaccine. My other daughter will also get it when she is in high school.

I, on the other hand, am currently over the required age to get the drug. As soon as it is available for 30+yos, I’ll get it.

sepi sepi 10:52 am 27 May 07

I know 4 people who have had treatment for pre-cancerous cells, in response to abnormal pap smears.

You probably know some too, it just isn’t the sort of thing people talk about publically.

gun street girl gun street girl 9:01 am 27 May 07

Note, too, that Gadarsil is not just preventing cervical cancer, but the development of pre-cancerous changes which commonly show on pap smears. Treatment of such changes is no walk in the park, therefore, if they could be avoided by lowering the incidence of HPV infection, we’d be ahead at the end of the day.

Well worth a sore arm and ubiquitous teenage hysteria, IMO.

Sammy Sammy 10:01 pm 26 May 07

Oh, and these are the side effects listed on the Gardasil documentation:

GARDASIL is given as 3 injections over 6 months and can cause pain, swelling, itching, and redness at the injection site, fever, nausea, and dizziness.

So whats the problem?

Sammy Sammy 10:00 pm 26 May 07

Does anyone know the actual prevalence of cervical cancer?

According to the Cancer Council NSW, 1 in 183 Australian women will develop cervical cancer by the age of 75.

This makes it the 16th most common cancer.

el el 7:06 pm 26 May 07

“Please collect your “Alarmist Retard” bumper sticker at the door, you retarded, alarmist alarmist retard.”

Pool room!

miz miz 5:57 pm 26 May 07

Does anyone know the actual prevalence of cervical cancer? I am wondering, as this blanket immunisation seems a bit OTT, unlike the real risks from epidemics of whooping cough, polio etc. I am generally pro-immunisation as my uncle had polio, and I have had whooping cough as an adult – awful – but I have my doubts about this one.

dusty dusty 10:08 pm 25 May 07

My 15 yo daughter had hers today, 2 more to go. Will let you know how she goes. I figured the benefits outweigh the risks, particularly as cervical cancer is currently a leading cause of death and infertility, so dodging the bad old ‘genital wart’ virus (precurser to cervical cancer) can only be a good thing for the species as a whole, and hopefully, my lovely daughter in particular, I think anyway.

GnT GnT 7:37 pm 25 May 07

Plus

3) Use public health money for treating their cervical cancer which could have been prevented.

johnboy johnboy 4:43 pm 25 May 07

Unfortunately you’d:

1) Let the wastes of space free ride off the herd immunity

2) Lose the benefit of herd immunity for those with legitimate reasons (eg known allergies) to not get it.

fnaah fnaah 4:39 pm 25 May 07

Here’s another side benefit: let the tinhat people have their way and not get innoculated, then Darwin can thin out their numbers for us. Hurrah!

neanderthalsis neanderthalsis 4:34 pm 25 May 07

“Nearly 90 percent of Gardasil recipients and 85 percent of aluminum placebo recipients followed-up for safety reported one or more adverse events within 15 days of vaccination, particularly at the injection site”
Including…

wait for it…

Pain!

Shock horror, injections can cause pain.

It is a natural reaction for some people to get the wobbles and even faint after being jabbed. I have seen grown men faint after a series of innoculations, so a bunch of schoolgirls keeling over is no great surprise.

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