16 August 2023

Challenges aplenty for Liberals leader on the long path to 2024

| Genevieve Jacobs
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Elizabeth Lee has an unenviable juggle on her hands. Photo: Genevieve Jacobs.

On Elizabeth Lee’s desk, in front of bookshelves with biographies of John Howard, Julia Gillard and Hilary Clinton, there’s also a tangle of baby toys.

It’s two weeks since the Liberals leader returned from maternity leave after the birth of her second baby, Ava, and she’s immersed in an unenviable balancing act: parent a toddler and newborn and, at the same time, win the 2024 ACT election.

Nobody’s sure which task is tougher, but it’s a challenge Ms Lee is happy to discuss, pushing aside any notion the reality of mothering makes her less capable or feasible as a leader.

“There’s always that eternal feeling of guilt in the back of your mind, that question of ‘am I doing her a disservice?’ But also, I’ve got a duty to the people of the ACT and it’s an important duty,” she says.

The concerns, the feeling of guilt and the second-guessing come up often in our conversation, but Ms Lee knows she’s in the same boat as most working parents. She’s going home every day to feed Ava at lunchtime, trusting her partner Nathan to co-parent effectively and relying on extended family on both sides to make it all work.

“I’m hoping that I’m a good role model for my girls and that they grow up seeing me do what I do and accepting that it’s a given that women are in high-profile positions or in public roles of leadership. And I hope that they’ll be proud of me on some of the issues that I have stood up for,” she says.

There’s also a sense of responsibility to the Korean migrant parents who arrived in Australia with almost no English and worked their hearts out for their children’s future.

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Ms Lee, a lawyer and law lecturer by training, is the first Asian Australian to lead a political party. The Korean community was delighted when she was first elected to the Assembly and then became leader, but she’s not keen to be pigeonholed by her ethnicity either.

“When people elect representatives, I think a lot of members of the community want to see people who understand the various challenges and struggles that they also go through. I mean, it’s representative democracy, you know, you’re entrusting people to make decisions for and on behalf of you,” she says.

“And that’s why when for so long we had no genuine diversity, especially in federal politics, it was a problem. The people around that decision-making table only had one view of the world. I genuinely believe that it’s the robustness of the diverse voices around the table that make for better policy in the long run.”

Coming from a migrant background has sharpened her sense of what’s accessible and heightened her belief that alongside core Liberal values of individual freedom and personal responsibility, people deserve what they need to succeed.

Menzies’ forgotten people have always resonated with her and Ms Lee talks often about the people she believes are left behind by the Barr government.

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But it would be naive to dismiss the mountainous size of the electoral challenge: two decades in opposition, a team of representatives who have never been in government, and some of the safest federal Labor seats in the country.

Ms Lee says the team, riven in the past by factional disputes, has fallen in behind her and her vision for an inclusive Canberra. She ticks off the list of life skills they bring, from small business to the community sector, teaching and media, and repeats John Howard’s line about a broad church of Liberal beliefs.

Her electoral priorities are as interesting for who and what doesn’t get mentioned: housing and healthcare are at the top of her list for the next 12 months, but there’s no mention of the laser-like focus on light rail the Liberals have had while Jeremy Hanson was acting leader.

“At the end of the day, let’s be brutally honest: if the Labor-Greens government are touting experience as their strength, then why do we have the worst emergency wait times in the hospital after 20-plus years?”

“Why are academic standards going backwards? Why is our debt position the way it is at the moment? Why do we have a housing affordability crisis?”

It’s a hard road ahead, and if Ms Lee does win the 2024 ACT election she’ll make history again by being the first woman elected to run an Australian jurisdiction while parenting two toddlers.

She thinks the fight matters for all sorts of reasons: women in leadership normalise caring responsibilities and show that parents need to step up equally. Everyday, messy real life is acknowledged and dealt with instead of being relegated to “women’s work” behind closed doors.

In the meantime, Ava has already been out on the campaign trail with Ms Lee and her daughter Mia. They’re greeted with warmth wherever they go, but it will be a long path ahead for their mother.

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The Canberra Liberals will not and do not deserve to win the next election. Liberal supporters and those party members who have not already left despair.
Elizabeth Lee’s assertions that the party is firmly behind her is nothing of the sort. Ms Lee, and some of her colleagues are not even on speaking terms.
Elizabeth Lee is a trojan horse for the right-wing of the party to get into government.
Ex-military man and deputy leader Jeremy “Jackboot” Hanson is the real leader. He is the person the party rallies around. Jeremy has been around for way too long and calls the shots. He is currently courting and being courted by the right wing of the party including president John Cziesla, Martin Dunn and the Young Liberals. They are the dominant and true forces in the Canberra Liberals.
Jeremy has also very busy rallying his out of town federal colleagues and senators up on the hill to interfere, undermine and frustrate our Territory’s elected government to do its job. He is also very busy rallying his troops in the Young Liberal movement to get out there and flood social media to hinder and trash The Voice campaign.
Good luck with 2024 Elizabeth Lee!

HiddenDragon8:42 pm 17 Aug 23

“Menzies’ forgotten people have always resonated with her and Ms Lee talks often about the people she believes are left behind by the Barr government.”

There are far too many of those people in this affluent town, including growing numbers who never quite seem to conform with the comfortably glib assumptions which drive eligibility for ACT government handouts and concessions, but when I look at the Canberra Liberals’ online presence(s) (which are fairly clunky, even allowing for the relatively limited resources available to run them) I struggle to find any detail about what the Canberra Liberals would do for them.

There’s a lot of criticism of the Labor-Green government – fair enough, after 22 years there’s plenty to be critical of – but not too much at all which explains how a Liberal government would do things differently whether it’s municipal functions or major state-level responsibilities such as health and education.

The Canberra Liberals need to get busy in defining themselves as people with workable, believable solutions to the issues which concern many Canberrans – and they need to do that well before the October 2024 Territory election.

GrumpyGrandpa8:02 pm 16 Aug 23

I’m not sure the purpose of this article. Why highlight that Ms Lee has a baby and a toddler and that she has Korean heritage? Should those issues influence how we should vote?

For me, the issues are (A) Does the Opposition have better policies than the current Government? (B) Would the Opposition be capable of managing the Territory better than the current Government?(C) Which party has the better Leadership?

Canberrans are still waiting for the Libs’ policy announcements, but keeping your powder dry has some merit.
It’s hard to know the Opposition’s capability to manage, because none of them have been in Government, so it’s a gamble. That said, there seems to be a lot of dissatisfaction with the existing Government’s ability to manage health, education, transport etc, so maybe?
As for Leadership, I’d easily rank AB, over Ms Lee, however, beyond AB, I can’t see any alternative ALP leader that I’d put any faith in. I’d rank Hanson above Berry and Parton ahead of Steele.

All of that said, even if the Libs score more seats than the ALP, the Greens will do a deal and return the ALP until the 2028 election, when it’ll be rinse and repeat.

We’ve been debating recognising people of a certain heritage in the constitution, it kind of does matter what someone’s background is from now on.

@GrumpyGrandpa
“… the Greens will do a deal and return the ALP …”
Oh you mean like we had 10 years of Conservative government (not to mention the many other previous COALITION governments) at the Federal level because the Nats did a deal with the Libs?

GrumpyGrandpa12:59 pm 17 Aug 23

Hi JustSaying,
The relationship between the Libs and the Nats is different to that of the ALP and Greens.
Whilst they are seperate parties, the Libs and Nats don’t run candidates against the other parties sitting members and in the Senate, the Nats are generally on the same page as the Libs. It’s a long standing relationship.

Federally, the Greens are radical and will vote down “good” legislation if it doesn’t meet their ideals.
Locally, the Greens, claim to be independent of the Government, yet support them in every no confidence motion. To be really effective in the Assembly, the Greens could let the ALP govern as a minority Government and use their vote to side with the Libs on matters where there is common ground.

@GrumpyGrandpa
Nevertheless, the relationship between the Nationals and Liberals exists because neither party can command a majority, to form government, in their own right. The Labor and Greens have a relationship between each other because Labor could not form a government in its own right in ACT. Generally in such a relationship the minor party agrees to support the governing party on matters of supply and no confidence – as happened when Julia Gillard formed a minority government in 2010 – with the support of the three independents.
In the ACT it’s a relationship to form a coalition government – hence the reason the some Green members hold ministries.

GrumpyGrandpa
The LNP is a coalition and that of ACT Labor and the Greens is a governing agreement. The agreement is publicly available on the ACT government website or on the internet by doing a Google search.
It is the Canberra Liberals who are radical. Why would the Greens side with them? The party and their elected members represent the radical far right and they have nothing to offer ACT voters. One just has to follow Assembly proceedings to see that. This is seen in their disruptive and disgraceful behaviour and constant no-confidence motions. Shane Rattenbury has already said he can’t work with them. ACT voters are the big losers.
My understanding of the governing agreement is that the Greens will not move any motions of no confidence motions except in instances of proven corruption, conduct that threatens public confidence, gross negligence or non-adherence to the Ministerial Code of Conduct.

@Jack D so theoretically the Greens will be voting with the liberals on a no confidence in Berry when the integrity commission hearings are complete?

Where is the tough, probing commentary we usually see from you Genevieve Jacobs? You have given Elizabeth Lee a free ride with this mind numbingly  banal and self-indulgent interview. Does Elizabeth Lee ever deviate from the same trite and scripted interviews she gives journalists at every election? The same sickly tosh about being a migrant, babies, feeling guilty and her personal sacrifices for her family and the people of Canberra. And not to forget that old chestnut of Menzies and the forgotten people. Where are those tough, challenging and penetrating questions we expect our journalists to ask and want answers to? Those questions the Canberra Liberals refuse to answer.
Where are the Canberra Liberals’ policies on climate change, population growth, Indigenous rights and the Voice, transport, health, education and infrastructure to name a few? The party has only been in opposition for over two decades. Elizabeth Lee barely dragged herself over the line at the last election and she was rewarded with the leadership. She should do better!!
I couldn’t imagine any journalist giving Andrew Barr such a free kick. Just imagine how Riot-Act readers would pillory Mr Barr if he treated Canberrans this way and gave the same self-indulgent and mind-numbingly banal interview?
The Canberra Liberals should do a bit more work for a change if they want to win government. Stop bludging off journalists to do their work for them and get off their lazy backsides and develop some policies of their own!

They will have to sort out their cultural issues after 20 years of certain groups eroding the party, radically grow and refresh the membership to be more representative of the Canberra community, sort out their climate position (currently still hostile to climate science) – and start articulating a positive vision for Canberra…

All within the space of around six months. Is there realistically much chance of this happening?

or… something else comes along to take their place?

any thoughts?

If you want a tip – don’t go to the electorate with a campaign that is only “we oppose (insert issue of the day)”. That’s what your party has done for the last umpteenth times and the electorate has rejected you for it. We want a real plan. People would like a change from the current government, but we won’t be voting for something that doesn’t promise anything real.

For example, this article has the tired old line about emergency waiting times and then linking it solely to 20 years of Greens-Labor in ACT. No mention of how emergency wait times have blown out in every state and territory; nor how much the decision of the previous Commonwealth govt to freeze Medicare rebates, resulting in many people not being to afford a GP, contributed to it. When you don’t address the whole issue and go for quick door stop clichés, then you fail to demonstrate you fully understand issues. Put simply – you come across as opportunistic amateurs.

Cut the clichés and tell us exactly what you will do to fix the problem.

Victor Bilow6:04 pm 16 Aug 23

Does that mean the current ACT government should trundle on indefinitely.

Thankfully the libs have heaps of new policy ideas coming into the election, such as….. opposing the light rail. Third time’s the charm right?

First of all, excise the Zed cancer from the ACT Libs, and then work hard to make yourself an alternative Chief Minister. The growing angst about Barr & Co should make that job easy, but the Libs’ hard-right past and present are like the proverbial millstone.

Good luck but I can’t see how you can undo a decades-old culture in just 12 months. Many of us wish you would or could, just to see the back of Barr.

Balance needed2:15 pm 16 Aug 23

We do indeed. Whatever our misgivings about the Libs, maybe a period in opposition might freshen Labor up. They certainly need it.

Jenny Graves5:58 pm 16 Aug 23

I second seeing the back of Barr. He’s wrecking this town. I’d be prepared to go against the habit of a lifetime and vote anyone in who would promise to do better and then carry out that promise!

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