Canberra Liberals launch their team to fight the 2024 ACT election

Jack, your vinyl is scratched, it keeps jumping back over the track “Hate the Liberals”.

No nobody I am just one of those outraged ACT voters who, after two decades of watching the Canberra Liberals implode, wants to see an effective opposition that drives good and robust policy debate.

A successful and progressive opposition that is not seen as a joke and is capable of winning an election!

Is that too much to ask?

Jack D,
another meaningless and partisan rant.

But I will pull you up on a couple of points:

“with expectations the party will be flat out getting just one candidate across the line in each electorate.”

Whose expectations? Your own? I’d love to see you attempt to back that point up with some data, polling or actual evidence. This would equate to double digit swings against the Liberal party across the board. Surely even the most rusted on Jack D’s in Canberra don’t think that’s likely.

“A successful and progressive opposition that is not seen as a joke and is capable of winning an election!”

But the Liberal party isn’t a progressive party, so why would you expect them to change to suit your own personal politics?

And if you were being honest, even if they did espouse progressive positions as you claim to want, you still wouldn’t vote for them anyway. Which can be seen by your constant claims they are being controlled behind the scenes by hard core conservatives regardless of what their actual stated positions are.

You are right chewy there is no way I would vote for the Canberra Liberals in the current state of the party. But being the political being that I am I engage amiably with both sides of politics and have done so for many years, even with ex-Liberal MLAs. Some of these people I consider my closest friends. Some are so disillusioned with the party that they have cancelled their membership. Others however continue to hold onto their membership in the unlikely hope that prospects will improve.

There is a common anger and belief amongst my friends, especially with their inside knowledge, that the Canberra Liberals have deteriorated to the point of no return and will be flat out getting just one candidate across the line in each electorate at this year’s election!

Jack D, your “some of my best friends are…” should buy another round then offer another guess at the Liberal votes. They’ll fall of their chairs laughing.

Jack D,
So you engage amiably with people from both sides of politics in person but then disparage one side relentlessly online with personal smears. Makes sense.

And I’m sure your “friends” do have an anger towards the Liberal party in your opinion. It’s not like you’ve ever shown any form of balanced assessment in your comments here on anything else political in nature.

Although it might have just been easier for you to admit you completely made up the part about the Liberals struggling to get one person elected in each electorate rather than continuing the lie that can’t be backed up by a shred of verifiable evidence. Although once again, it does tie in nicely with your other exagerrations and flat out mistruths, so there’s that.

Hi Jack D.

“….the party will be flat out getting just one candidate across the line in each electorate”. That’s a big call that one Jack.

The current make up of the Assembly is 10 ALP, 9 Lib & 6 Greens. If the Libs lost at least 4 seats, which is effectively what you are suggesting, it could be an ALP majority government or yet still another ALP-Greens Alliance.

In my opinion, an ALP majority Government would be a better result for the ACT than another handcuffed to the Greens, but in order to avoid another Alliance handcuffed

Jack D.
The chances of the Canberra Libs losing about half of their seats, (to be flat out securing one seat per electorate), is a pretty ridiculous prediction.

Let’s face it, the ALP-Greens Alliance Government is a bit on the nose, after 20 plus years, and for those us south of the City, 2B is about as popular as herpes in a nudist colony.

Unfortunately Charmaine and chewy I do not believe that the current political situation in Canberra is conducive to effective democracy. My Liberal friends agree. The Canberra liberals are the most ineffective division of the party in the country. Considered a joke by voters, the party’s state and federal colleagues agree. The Canberra Liberals have been in opposition in the ACT for over two decades. Losing its only federal representative and senator Zed Seselja at the 2020 election, in one of the party’s safest and most guaranteed seats in the country.

At the last Territory election in 2020, the party’s leader Elizabeth Lee barely scraped over the line. Not even reaching a quota, Ms Lee was rewarded with the leadership.

I will be thinking of Charmaine and chewy and their comments when the ACT’s election results start rolling in on 19 October this year. Groundhog day and another predicted loss for the Canberra Liberals.

Unfortunately, it is really Canberra voters who are the losers.

Jack D,
Who said anything about the Liberals winning?

You claimed they would struggle to win one seat in each electorate.

And i hope you do remember the actual words of my comments when the election results come in, because I’ll surely remember yours.

With another predicted win for the woeful incumbents, your last sentence couldn’t be any truer. But you’ll keep voting for them anyway.

Jack D, where did I discuss what is “conducive to effective democracy” let alone predict the entire election outcome?

I satirised your claim which I expect to see proven silly regardless of the formation of the next local government.

Does it occur to you that extreme comments and your inability track a thread of argument simply mirror those whom you would disparage on the right (who might also see themselves in you)?

Let’s hope. There seems to be some capable people among the candidates.