Chaser jumping the shark in Canberra?

johnboy 28 September 2009 110

[First filed: July 20, 2009 @ 09:10]

The Australian brings word that The Chaser team have caused umbrage again, this time here in Canberra.

    Chaser comedian Julian Morrow, who is also the program’s executive producer, was stopped by Australian Federal Police officers when he arrived at St John’s Anglican Church in full mountaineering gear and attempted to scale the spire during the regular Sunday service — a reference to the recent row over climbing Uluru.

    The ABC went ahead and filmed despite being warned by media waiting for the Prime Minister that Mr Rudd was expected to comment on Australian casualties in the Jakarta bombings, and the news just breaking of the killing of an Australian soldier and the serious wounding of another in an incident in Afghanistan.

That the Prime Minister could do something as mundane as go to church without being molested was something I really liked about Canberra. The fear is that now the genie’s out of the bottle every ratbag nutjob convinced their cause is paramount to all other considerations will be out on a Sunday morning making pratts of themselves.

Let us hope it doesn’t come to that.

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mrnamjama mrnamjama 1:57 pm 22 Jul 09

trevar said :

I would think that not making up your mind, or believing in multiple gods are alternatives. …

No way – ‘not making up your mind about god’s existence’ is still the same as ‘not believing in god’. The only difference is that agnostics feel compelled to emphasise the REASON for their lack of belief, rather than the end result!

I say drown them along with us and the Catholics!!!

Agnostics and atheists believe in at least one fewer god than every religion out there, so perhaps we’re all in the same boat afterall…

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 12:34 pm 22 Jul 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Deadmandrinking said :

VY, I’m sure 50-80,000 years of spiritual development is a little more important than you wanting to climb a rock.

Why? Because your values system says so? Sloppy thinking, buddy.

I kind of think automatically assuming that just because something is important to you, it means you can do whatever you want with it, regardless of the wishes of those for who it has had spiritual significance for a much longer period of time, is very sloppy thinking. Selfish thinking too.

Why do you have to climb it? When I hear people complaining about there being nothing to do once you’ve driven for 5 hours or so…I just think, ‘why don’t they go to an amusement park for their holidays?’ I mean, seriously, have we Australians lost so much that we can’t appreciate natural beauty without having to climb something, touch something or get a bloody t-shirt that says you saw something. Uluru is an amazing natural feature, if you can’t appreciate it, plan holidays to Movieworld or something.

trevar trevar 11:37 am 22 Jul 09

Thoroughly Smashed said :

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

I’m all for drowning the Catholics and Atheists in the same pond…….

Catholics: Believe in a god
Athiests: Do not believe in a god

There is no alternative to these two positions, so how do you propose that anyone would escape your watery wrath?

I would think that not making up your mind, or believing in multiple gods are alternatives. Still, Eyeball wasn’t wanting to drown all theists, nor all Christians, just Catholics and Atheists. Maybe not the nicest of sentiments, but the watery wrath is escapable by a majority of religious people…

peterh peterh 4:58 pm 21 Jul 09

Ozi said :

Jim Jones said :

Why? Was the stunt endangering anyone’s life? Why would there be a need for increased security because of this?

No, no life was endangered, it just took a couple of city patrol cop cars out of circulation for an hour or so. I don’t believe this adversely affected anyone, but it would have been a different story if a major incident in Canberra had coincided with the Chaser stunt.

And the problem isn’t the stunt: I personally agree politically with a lot of the stuff they do, and can see their point on this occasion. The problem is that if I was responsible for protection of the PM, I wouldn’t trust the Chaser gang as far as I could throw them. The fact that they have chosen to continually make skits around the PM at various locations around Australia must surely make the Close Personal Protection guys nervous, and with that comes an increase on the workload of both CPP and the local constabulary. By targeting the PM at any time they chose, the Chaser team will inevitably lead to increased security.

and that raises another issue. what happens when a person who is unidentified by the security team is perceived to be a risk to the PM, refuses to come down from their vantage point, and is shot? not a funny stunt then, is it? then again, the chaser team was very lucky that they just got arrested the last time they did something equally stupid.

Ozi Ozi 4:55 pm 21 Jul 09

Jim Jones said :

Why? Was the stunt endangering anyone’s life? Why would there be a need for increased security because of this?

No, no life was endangered, it just took a couple of city patrol cop cars out of circulation for an hour or so. I don’t believe this adversely affected anyone, but it would have been a different story if a major incident in Canberra had coincided with the Chaser stunt.

And the problem isn’t the stunt: I personally agree politically with a lot of the stuff they do, and can see their point on this occasion. The problem is that if I was responsible for protection of the PM, I wouldn’t trust the Chaser gang as far as I could throw them. The fact that they have chosen to continually make skits around the PM at various locations around Australia must surely make the Close Personal Protection guys nervous, and with that comes an increase on the workload of both CPP and the local constabulary. By targeting the PM at any time they chose, the Chaser team will inevitably lead to increased security.

Pelican Lini Pelican Lini 4:26 pm 21 Jul 09

Ozi,
Totally agree with your sentiments, but I hope you’re wrong about the threat of tighter US-style security being introduced.
While I haven’t seen footage of the Chaser stunt yet, I also hope such “real world” humour continues to be made.
Then again, I do like to try and have my cake and eat it too.
Curiously there has been at least one political assassination attempt in Australia (I think it was some nutter called Kocan but don’t remember which polly) yet we still continue to enjoy more relaxed security for our MPs and leaders.
Such egalitarianism between leaders and the “peeps” (or at least the illusion of it) is definitely one of the attributes of this wonderful country.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 4:08 pm 21 Jul 09

Ozi said :

Continual stunts put additional stress on security and will eventually lead to heightened security and a more ‘U.S.A” approach to protection of our VIPs.

Why? Was the stunt endangering anyone’s life? Why would there be a need for increased security because of this?

Ozi Ozi 4:00 pm 21 Jul 09

I’ve always liked that the PM could go to church, etc with a minimal security detail: a few CPP and thats it. Can you think of any other country where this would happen? Hell, I had Julia Gillard in front of me at the shopping centre a couple of months ago. No security at all, and she was having a bit of a joke and chat with the checkout attendant. Nice and relaxed, no big deal. A few shoppers noticed, had a bit of a surreptitious look in her direction, but that was it.

I really LIKE that our politicians can be normal people occasionally. No need for massive convoys, shutting down streets for transporting, closing shops down so they can buy some groceries etc etc. Continual stunts put additional stress on security and will eventually lead to heightened security and a more ‘U.S.A” approach to protection of our VIPs.

gingermick gingermick 1:23 pm 21 Jul 09

I gave up on The Chaser last series. Boring,predictable,undergraduate attempts at satire/humour.

Pelican Lini Pelican Lini 1:08 pm 21 Jul 09

Thumper,
I am sincerely sorry for misinterpreting your previous comment.
Jim,
I love that Nietzche paraphrase.
When people quote N to me, it always sounds great but previous attempts to read him have always failed because tiny Pelican brain found his prose almost impenetrable.
Must have another go at reading him.
In belated response to peterh, I agree with most of what you say.
During the lead up to and start of the outrageous NT Intervention, however, mainstream media, and particularly The Australian, presented problems such as poverty, homelessness, substance abuses and child abuse as if they were confined to Aboriginal communities only and their own fault.
Not surprising for The Australian, which worked hand-in-glove with the Howard Government to prosecute each other’s policies.
The deliberate and consistent misreporting and non-disclosure of facts, which extended way beyond the opinion pages, has damaged it’s credibility in my view, and perhaps irretrievably.
Yet the same people are still running the show and up to their necks involved in such farcical anti-Labor campaigns as ute-gate.
Anyway, I digress, and still argue that no one should envy the “special treatment” handed out to Aboriginal people.
If anyone has factual evidence of Aboriginal people receiving benefits unavailable to all other Australians, I would love to hear it.

Thumper Thumper 11:51 am 21 Jul 09

Pelican, you did not read my comments correctly. I have no problems with your beliefs, nor anyones beliefs.

Please read again.

peterh peterh 11:13 am 21 Jul 09

BerraBoy68 said :

Jim Jones said :

Pelican Lini said :

The teachings of Jesus provide me with great ideals to try to live by and in my view they are diametrically opposed to the actions and conduct of all major religious institutions.

To paraphrase Nietzsche: There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross.

Except, of course, Jesus beleived himself to be Jewish.

and muslims believe him to be another prophet, in a long line of prophets including moses. Their founder of their church is another prophet. and there will be another one, ad infinitum. the beliefs of the muslims and the jews and the christians are pretty similar in many ways.

The scourge of the religious persecution of all faiths bar one wasn’t islam, the conversion to one faith wasn’t jewish. The biggest acts of cruelty, torture and murder were committed for the christian church. And we persecute islam?

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 10:41 am 21 Jul 09

Jim Jones said :

Pelican Lini said :

The teachings of Jesus provide me with great ideals to try to live by and in my view they are diametrically opposed to the actions and conduct of all major religious institutions.

To paraphrase Nietzsche: There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross.

Except, of course, Jesus beleived himself to be Jewish.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:32 am 21 Jul 09

Pelican Lini said :

The teachings of Jesus provide me with great ideals to try to live by and in my view they are diametrically opposed to the actions and conduct of all major religious institutions.

To paraphrase Nietzsche: There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross.

BerraBoy68 BerraBoy68 10:31 am 21 Jul 09

Pelican Lini said :

Thumper said :

I should add that I find it interesting that people who are quick to jump on the Indigenous cultural/ religious belief are quick to dismiss the christian belief.

Luckily for me I’m agnostic otherwise I’d have to suspect double standards.

Interesting that a person who does not have the faith to believe in a Christian deity automatically rates said “unknowable” deity higher than someone else’s religious beliefs.
The deity may not exist but he/she is still the best because he/she is “our deity”.
It can be argued that Christian churches do good for the community but it can equally be argued that said churches and other major religions have an appalling long history of mass slaughters, abuse of power, exploitation and corruption.
The teachings of Jesus provide me with great ideals to try to live by and in my view they are diametrically opposed to the actions and conduct of all major religious institutions.

Interesting last point, PL. If you are saying that the administrators of the Catholic church (including the old german bloke that gets around in fancy white robes and lives in multi-billion dollar accomodation) don’t live by their own teachings, then I’d have to sincerely agree.

Pelican Lini Pelican Lini 10:15 am 21 Jul 09

Thumper said :

I should add that I find it interesting that people who are quick to jump on the Indigenous cultural/ religious belief are quick to dismiss the christian belief.

Luckily for me I’m agnostic otherwise I’d have to suspect double standards.

Interesting that a person who does not have the faith to believe in a Christian deity automatically rates said “unknowable” deity higher than someone else’s religious beliefs.
The deity may not exist but he/she is still the best because he/she is “our deity”.
It can be argued that Christian churches do good for the community but it can equally be argued that said churches and other major religions have an appalling long history of mass slaughters, abuse of power, exploitation and corruption.
The teachings of Jesus provide me with great ideals to try to live by and in my view they are diametrically opposed to the actions and conduct of all major religious institutions.

Thoroughly Smashed Thoroughly Smashed 10:08 am 21 Jul 09

Eyeball In A Quart Jar Of Snot said :

I’m all for drowning the Catholics and Atheists in the same pond…….

Catholics: Believe in a god
Athiests: Do not believe in a god

There is no alternative to these two positions, so how do you propose that anyone would escape your watery wrath?

G-Fresh G-Fresh 12:03 am 21 Jul 09

Can’t believe Rudd. What a tosser.

Roadrage77 Roadrage77 10:51 pm 20 Jul 09

I think Johnboy jumped the shark when he used the phrase for the 27th time in one week.

ant ant 9:28 pm 20 Jul 09

Pommy bastard said :

at St John’s Anglican Church in full mountaineering gear and attempted to scale the spire during the regular Sunday service — a reference to the recent row over climbing Uluru.

Excellent analogy, kudos Chaser guy.

Agree. They drew a very short, straight line and got it dead on target. That is why they are such very good satirists. Sadly, too many people think Satire means Slapstick.

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