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Claim of pack rape at Cotter camp site

By papadoc - 3 April 2008 68

Just ripped this from CT’s homepage.

Police are investigating an alleged pack rape of a 15-year-old girl by three men in the Cotter camping ground on Sunday night.
The girl was camping with a group of friends aged between 15 and 19 at the time.

The alleged victim told The Canberra Times that the rape occurred after she got into the men’s car when they went to buy cigarettes.

Police were called on the emergency phone at the Cotter camping ground after friends found her.

A spokesman confirmed an investigation into an “alleged assault of a sexual nature at the Cotter on March 30”.

“Three persons were interviewed in relation to the alleged offence but no one has been charged at this time,” he said.

“Given the nature of these allegations, police will always uphold a duty of care to ensure there is systematic attention to detail in this process.”

When police arrived, the alleged victim was taken with a friend to the AFP’s Winchester Police Station about 5.30am, where she was questioned until 11.30am.

The alleged victim’s mother said she had been called by police at about 7am.

The alleged victim said she had not taken the advice of her friends when she got in the men’s car.

“I decided to go with them … they had some sort of van thing. The petrol station was back in Canberra,” she said.

“[Then we] headed back to around the forest, on this dirt road thing that leads to the camp ground. It was about a five-minute drive from the campsite.

“They said they were going somewhere else so they said I had to jump out of the car. They drove off and then they came back and that’s when it happened. They drove off after it happened. [There were] three of them.”

The mother of a friend of the alleged victim said she was upset no one had been arrested.

“A teenage girl has been raped horribly, she was left on the side of the road and so on. A lot of teenagers go out there on the weekends, the weekend is coming, and I’m worried about it happening again and I think the public should be warned.”

The woman said the trip had been the last planned before colder weather set in.

“But there are a lot of kids who are still going out camping every weekend.”
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I don’t want to start anything and I do feel sorry for the alleged victim, but why is a 15y.o girl out camping with friends on a Sunday night? Isn’t Monday a school day?

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Claim of pack rape at Cotter camp site
GnT 10:50 pm 05 Apr 08

Settle down. I think everyone’s agreeing with you, that you and your friend made stupid choices. And I think you would agree that you wouldn’t want anyone else making the same stupid choices.

qtpie111 8:39 pm 05 Apr 08

ok i really did ask her to get out of the car we herd her scream but the whole night the people at the other end of the camping ground were having a party so we thought they were just being kids and having a good time you were not there and you didnt see or here what happened the way we did we tried to stop her shes my best friend and i would never want anything to happen to her i love her with all my heart and am so sorry i didnt do more but shes reading all these comments and your all saying shes stupid SHE WAS DRUNK WE WERE DRUNK JUST LEAVE IT ALONE! and the 19 year olds my sisters mates ok so they were just tryna be nice and take us camping we have known them for years alright! we arnt stupid we just made stupid choices

person22 7:45 pm 05 Apr 08

maybe this girls punishment wasnt enough for her maybe she needs the whole public scrutinising her and pointing there fingers at her..maybe rape wasnt enough to let her know she was dumb

person22 7:40 pm 05 Apr 08

OH AND EVERYTHING SHE KNOWS COMES OUT OF THIS GOD DAMN NEWS PAPER THE POLICE HAVE NOT CONTACTED HER AT ALL..

person22 7:35 pm 05 Apr 08

OK…
firstly…we should all know that reporters do not usually write a story like that
indicating they are making her seem like a dumb girl…
secondly…they were hanging out with her some of the night before she left the CAMP site…
thirdly…it was saturday night when it happened
fourth…the nineteen year olds were her friends sister and her sisters boyfriend WHICH THE GIRL KNEW FOR YEARS
fifth…they didnt seem so strange at first
sixth…the petrol station wasnt far away so she didnt think she was doing anything that would put her in danger…
her friends drunk alot she drank alot
..she was screaming as loud as you ever hearD anyone scream she was 5 mins away from her camp site….why wasnt she helped…her friend was going to go with her at first but she said nah id rather stay and this girl who was raped never ever heard her friend say don’t go…
now this journalist interviewed this girl and he put the dumbest thing she said on that news paper purposfully………..THERE WERE RESPONSIBLE SOBER ADULTS THERE SO DONT SAY SHI*T ABOUT STUFF YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT…WHAT THE HELL IS SHE THINKING AS SHE READS YOUR SH*T….OMG SHE IS SO F..ING DEPRESSED OVER THAT AND SHE KNOWS SHE MADE THE RONG DECISION BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE THE DECISIONS OF THE OFFENDERS ANYMORE RIGHT BECAUSE SHE MADE 1 DUMB DECISION…..THIS JOURNALIST HAS VISITED HER SCHOOL SPOKE TO HER SCHOOL FRIENDS AND TOLD THEM BASICALLY THAT IT WAS HER SO NOW SHE IS BEING BULLIED BECAUSE OF HIS DUMB DECISION MAYBE YOU COULD CONDEMN HIM FOR MAKING HIS STUPID MISTAKE

Timberwolf65 3:33 pm 05 Apr 08

I cannot believe the girl got in the car with the 3 blokes either , what a stupid thing to do… maybe her judgment was clouded by alcohol?? Her friends should of tried to stop her a bit better by dragging her away from the car or slapping her across the face and telling her to wake up to herself.

Does this girl not read or watch the news, Geeezzzzzzz.
As for the three f@#kers who raped her, may they burn in hellllllll!!!

GnT 9:11 pm 03 Apr 08

The feminist in me wants to say don’t blame the victim, her behaviour doesn’t excuse the rape etc. But my initial reaction is the same as those above:

What’s a 15yo doing at the Cotter on Saturday night with no adults?

What the hell is she doing getting in a car with 3 strange guys???

Let this be a warning to young girls about what can happen whan you are a bloody idiot.

Also note the comment by the “mother of a friend of the alleged victim”, “A lot of teenagers go out there on the weekends, the weekend is coming, and I’m worried about it happening again”. Here’s a hint: don’t let your teenager go camping without a responsible adult!

Felix the Cat 8:27 pm 03 Apr 08

I think the CT has the day wrong (never let the facts get in the way of a good story…), I happened to stop in at the Cotter camp ground to use the loo at about 8.30-9.00am on Sunday morning and there were two marked cop cars and at least two maybe three unmarked (detectives?) cars there as well. Passed another marked cop car going the other way on the way down there too. So I’m guessing the alleged incident happened on Saturday night. I wondered what was going on with all the cops there, now I know.

Jazz 4:24 pm 03 Apr 08

hmm, what 15yo hangs out with 19yo’s for a start. I’m pretty sure only reason my sister and my brother ever wanted to hang out with me when i was 19 was because i could buy them alcohol.

Mr Evil 2:28 pm 03 Apr 08

“By no means am I advocating the actions of these rapists, but how stupid is she for getting in to a car with a bunch of strangers and what is a 15 year old doing camping out at the Cotter anyway?”

My thoughts too. I mean some people really do get themselves into some really bad situations because they don’t think for five seconds about the possible consequences of their actions.

OzChick 2:02 pm 03 Apr 08

By no means am I advocating the actions of these rapists, but how stupid is she for getting in to a car with a bunch of strangers and what is a 15 year old doing camping out at the Cotter anyway?

s-s-a 1:38 pm 03 Apr 08

I camped there prior to Easter alone with my 4yo daughter and felt completely safe… these d*ckheads have now put doubts in my mind. Not that either of us would be getting into a car with strangers mind you…

Cameron 1:37 pm 03 Apr 08

You’re right – so they might even be found not guilty by reason of being pathetic.

Skidbladnir 12:28 pm 03 Apr 08

Young girl getting into a van with a bunch of strangers you found at the Cotter, against your group of friends’ advice is a ‘bad move’ in almost anyone’s book these days…

Not saying that she’s at fault or by any means excusing the actions of the alleged offenders, mind you.

@papadoc:
What the police are referring to as “Sun 30Mar” is probably is what the public refer amongst themselves to as “The night of March 29” (as in before sunup on Sunday).
The nearest servo to the Cotter would be Weston Creek, where its 24hr service.

@Cameron:
If they appear, won’t they just need to claim tragic\misadventured childhood?
There was that one notorious pushover of a judge, whose name I forget…

Cameron 11:54 am 03 Apr 08

$20 says these blokes are charged, tried, and convicted, and sentenced to 10 months each. Probably suspended.

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