Commodore Bruce Kafer stood down at ADFA

Who IS the Australian Defence Association, and why does the media kow-tow to them? http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/12/3189104.htm
From their website and the content of their one and only public mouthpiece’s regular public statements, it seems fairly clear that they are a lobby group, quite possibly funded by Australian and overseas miltary-industrial complex. They are clearly NOT a voice for ordinary soldiers/sailors/airforce…

Is there a union for serving members of the ADF, and if so why are they so quiet?

MHW

Surely the AFD has a Commorode with a surname White.

Peter Leahy’s thoughts on this in the Age seem about spot on:

http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/these-cadets-are-neither-officers-nor-gentlemen-20110411-1db0g.html

I-filed said :

EvanJames said :

Do you see this kind of thing happening at Burton and Garran, for instance?

It used to. Read my post on the earlier thread about an incident at one of the ressies …

This kind of thing definitely happens at civilian unis. At least, I knew of several such incidents when I was an undergrad.

EvanJames said :

Do you see this kind of thing happening at Burton and Garran, for instance?

It used to. Read my post on the earlier thread about an incident at one of the ressies …

And its Navy’s turn for the top job. Given their track record this year alone, they should pass the baton on to Army.

I understand das Commandant has received some nasty phone calls. Suck it up princess.

Deref said :

Sleaz274 said :

Deref there is a very big distinction between a military academy/university and civilian universities, hence why ADFA exists and serves a very clear purpose within the ADF. Apart from the ending, I thoroughly valued my time there and found it an excellent way to grow as a potential officer. This would simply not have occurred at a civilian university.

Perhaps you could describe the differences and what you got at ADFA that you couldn’t have got at a civilian university.

Paid to be there?

Sleaz274 said :

Deref there is a very big distinction between a military academy/university and civilian universities, hence why ADFA exists and serves a very clear purpose within the ADF. Apart from the ending, I thoroughly valued my time there and found it an excellent way to grow as a potential officer. This would simply not have occurred at a civilian university.

Perhaps you could describe the differences and what you got at ADFA that you couldn’t have got at a civilian university.

Sleaz274 said :

EJ if this did happen at Burton and Garran who would the girl report it to and what disciplinary measures could be taken against the perpetrators? At least at ADFA there is some serious (career ending) consequences for the boys involved who will be shown cause and dismissed pretty quickly if they just cost a Commodore his job.

Well, if she was prepared to lay a formal complaint with the university and there was some proof, I would like to think the university would kick out at least the gentleman getting naked and the owner of the computer at the other end. I am not 100% sure they would, but they would certainly get kicked out of the residence at a minimum. Sadly though, I work in ANU accommodation, and I could see a similar incident happening at ANU too. The difference really is in how the instittuion would respond – I would expect ANU to respond better than ADFA appears to have.