Dangerous driving practices. Fatigue on the roads.

Cancel his World of Warcraft account.

ConanOfCooma said :

Wow, lots of unemployed people commenting on this post.

You do a valid day of work/study, and you’re f***ing tired. You can’t sleep the night before? You still need to work.

“Uh, sorry boss, I’m fatigued, and I can’t get to work today. No, I can’t get a Docs Cert, as I can’t drive there. Fatigue, y’know?”

Rather than discuss the fatigue issue with your “close” relative, why don’t you discuss the fact that you are such a relational traitor that you are prepared to call the police over them driving around after studying?

Better yet, why don’t you explain the pro’s of a Nanny State, and how you think that your Big Brother antics are going to make them a better, more secure, person?

Weak nonsensical arguments. I’m looking out for the health and safety of said relative and the public, I don’t see how that makes me a traitor. If I was to see anyone (including “close” relatives) drink driving after a night out I would report it and the police can follow up if they see fit. Fatigue can be compared to drink driving the only problem here is enforcement, no such device that can measure fatigue.

Big brother antics? I’m not applying this to everyone just one teenager, who clearly isn’t mature enough yet. And it’s not like what’s keeping him up is all the “work” and “studying” he needs to do, it’s him staying up all night on the internet doing god knows what, maybe creating troll posts like yourself.

Nothing worse than driving long distance if your tired, did it once, and was scary, I always try to be rested before I embark on a long trip.

If I can’t sleep much the night before I will sleep in, I’m in no hurry.

Way to solve a problem Conan @ #11. Try using your arguements in the context of defending a charge relevant to killing someone after falling asleep at the wheel and crashing – sounds a bit weak eh? SDFX is showing genuine concern for the safety of their relative in asking for help, not betraying them as you suggest. BTW, jobs are also harder to come by to people convicted of criminal offences. In a way, SDFX is looking out for you and your family whenever you’re on the road, perhaps you should be shifting your focus to what’s important to you, and not who’s employed.

Nanny states only exist because people need their hands held when they can’t ‘cross the road’ on their own. Sometimes people need to be big brothers because the people they care for behave like little brothers and lack the common sense required for their own good. It is up to us as a community to support them for the good of everyone, including you.

JustThinking said :

FioBla said :

Crimestoppers? It is anonymous. http://www.crimestoppers.com.au

hahaha I hope bananas in pyjamas from AFP allows this.

BUT do you really think anything is anonymous??? (esp from crime stoppers)
I have been at “:said said place” when calls for crimestoppers have come in and callers “names and details” were plastered on the ID screen.
Anonymous in the way “”they might not tell anyone it was you who called”” but not anonymous in the way they “”will hassle you or subpoena you to turn up for court if the have to””

Ring from a payphone or email from a library computer or something. Anonymous isn’t as anonymous as you think it is.

This site isn’t anonymous,,,,The AFP sit in here and watch all the bogan gun size comments….
That’s why I know it is all bogan gun shit,,,,,cause if it wasn’t the AFP would have had yas for a bogan guns by now…..

Another gem from Riotact’s newest nutjob.

FioBla said :

Crimestoppers? It is anonymous. http://www.crimestoppers.com.au

hahaha I hope bananas in pyjamas from AFP allows this.

BUT do you really think anything is anonymous??? (esp from crime stoppers)
I have been at “:said said place” when calls for crimestoppers have come in and callers “names and details” were plastered on the ID screen.
Anonymous in the way “”they might not tell anyone it was you who called”” but not anonymous in the way they “”will hassle you or subpoena you to turn up for court if the have to””

Ring from a payphone or email from a library computer or something. Anonymous isn’t as anonymous as you think it is.

This site isn’t anonymous,,,,The AFP sit in here and watch all the bogan gun size comments….
That’s why I know it is all bogan gun shit,,,,,cause if it wasn’t the AFP would have had yas for a bogan guns by now…..

Wow, lots of unemployed people commenting on this post.

You do a valid day of work/study, and you’re f***ing tired. You can’t sleep the night before? You still need to work.

“Uh, sorry boss, I’m fatigued, and I can’t get to work today. No, I can’t get a Docs Cert, as I can’t drive there. Fatigue, y’know?”

Rather than discuss the fatigue issue with your “close” relative, why don’t you discuss the fact that you are such a relational traitor that you are prepared to call the police over them driving around after studying?

Better yet, why don’t you explain the pro’s of a Nanny State, and how you think that your Big Brother antics are going to make them a better, more secure, person?

Fatigue is such a sneaky thing.
I remember driving years ago, feeling bored,,,then opening my eyes as my car was thumping and bumping down a gully. I never felt tired and didn’t think I was tired. One minute I was bopping to the music and the next trying to gain control of my car.
When I stopped I could not even see the last spot I remembered seeing, so no idea how long I had dozed off for. Scared me real good!
Apart from you warning and police warning etc there isn’t much you can do. There is NO dozalyzer so even if police pull him up they cannot do much. What are they going to say? Sir how long have you been driving right now? and he says “bout 20 minutes”

Feel for your situation. Maybe some vids etc showing others that crashed from fatigue might help, but as I said, it is a sneaky thing. He probably doesn’t think he is fatigued..
When my sons went on thier first ‘road trip’ I made them stop at every 2nd McDonalds for coffee and a walk ( and call me.) Now they are just in the habit. Maybe changing his habit might help?

I don’t think getting the police involved will change much. Have you spoken to the persons parents? They might be able to take the keys off them. If you’re very concerned and if it’s possible, perhaps offer to pay for the bus (or if too late a taxi), or even offer to pick them up.

Sounds like it’s education that is needed. But we also need to understand saying you shouldn’t drive while fatigued might not mean much when they’re on one side of Canberra and need to get to the other.

Your relative is behaving in a way that is dangerous to himself and all other road users and he needs to understand the consequences of his actions inevitably going wrong. A friend I went through school with was buried last October after he crashed a vehicle because he fell asleep. He was doing ‘the right thing’ helping his ex move house but pushed himself too far.

It is a good thing you feel the need to take action. Unfortunately, Police can only ‘enforce’ fatigue following a collision, particularly where he kills or seriously injures someone else which seems to be shutting the gate after the horse has bolted. Prevention is always better, and I would think education is the answer. I don’t think a ‘stern talking to’ at the road side is the answer though. For starters, you should report him and he should know Police are aware of his driving habits. Perhaps Traffic Police could also help you with his education. It can’t hurt to ask for help.