20 February 2007

Darling Harbour-isation of Canberra concerns

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The Canberra Times is reporting growing concern about the plans the NCA has for Canberra and the Lake area in particular, with a lead landscape architect comparing the likely outcomes to turning the foreshore into a Darling Harbour.

He has a very good point, from the various artists’ impressions we’ve seen in print the last few months…

The article points to a round table of “key stakeholders” on Friday that sounds like a who’s who of the development industry. The Walter Burley Griffin Society will be there, but otherwise no community representation.

Who are these NCA people that they have so little regard for the people who actually live here as stakeholders?
To quote:

“NCA chief executive Annabelle Pegrum said the professional view of the plan was that it was extremely well researched and balanced…”

In the professional view of those who stand to profit very handsomely from the outcome that is…

[ED – Darling Harbour you say? Bring it on!]

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and i dont think its an accident that all the highways in australia have ‘rest stations’ positioned so that you can drive up to the window of a multinational fast food chain.

you are kidding – 5 bucks ?

im still getting used to paying 3 bucks at some cafes locally.

especially when a friend who owns a cafe told me a cup of coffee costs him around 40 cents and everything else is profit.

i have been to starbucks once (in NY, i was desperate for a real ‘coffee’ and was disappointed) and hadnt eaten at mcdonalds for over 10 years until this yeart when on a road trip the driver pulled in. faced with starvation or eating that rubbish, i chose the latter.

but as a rule, avoid those places.

I like being able to see the water, and I am pretty saddened by the Kingston foreshore development that has wiped out the vista for those who don’t live there. I watch the ‘progress’ (less and less public view, more and more private space) from my bus window daily.
Sure, Darling Harbour was a big improvement on the run-down docks that used to be there, but that’s a different scenario to what we have. We currently have a first class, free, PUBLIC space. Maintained by the NCA, ie not completely run to shit like the ACT govt areas. Maybe they just need to make it more accessible with signage, etc, but it’s gorgeous and I don’t want that messed with.

I love how so many people seem to be against Starbucks and Maccas, yet they continue to be international successes. Someone must like them! (Or are people against them in theory but find their low prices and fast service hard to resist.)

I second the underwater pub idea. Imagine the hordes of alcoholics flocking to the nation’s capital in anticipation!

Not Kingston..it’s too far out of the city. We need lakeside development near the city. Of course it has to be done sensibly, but I’m a firm believer that it has to happen. Our fine city lacks something at the moment. I love jogging around the lake or enjoying it with my family…but a section where I could also enjoy a beer, have a coffee or a meal, or even enjoy some live music at would be fantastic.

Absent Diane1:44 pm 21 Feb 07

dial-a-dub water taxi and food deliverys

Absent Diane1:42 pm 21 Feb 07

What about fitting out a vw so it can swim… and have a dial-a-food delivery service for people picnicing on the banks of LBG?

I think they would be far better off doing this sort of development over near the Kingston foreshore. They will have heaps of nearby residents, and it will be close enough to attract the yuppies from Kingston and Manuka. Then they can leave this area as a nice green area in the parliamentary triangle.

Thumper, I thought we already had a floating resturant ?

Sim_mo_o: or perhaps runway success!

puns-r-us.

BRING IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also have some strumpets cruise the back alleys of Braddon and a few more bashings in Civic. then we can compare ourselves to sydney and say how grown-up we all are.

Full access for jetskis too.

i want more speedboat races on teh lake.

and flying boats landing as well.

and an underwater pub.

with a beer garden (so i can smoke).

I like the lake the way it is. If I wanted Darling Harbour with its noise, lack of parking, crowds, souvenir shops garish lighting, etc, etc, then I would simply go up and visit it (which I do from time to time).

I attended the National Capitals Alliance Conference in January this year. This development was a hot topic and very much talked about. If you go to regatta point you can see a model of their plans called “The Griffin Legacy” Monty_67 hit it in the nose when he mentioned the basin. There will also be a lot of development along constitution Ave and around the city circle. And don’t worry futto as I understand it, none of the ‘Boulevard’ plan affects the south side of the lake.

Go here to see more: http://www.nationalcapital.gov.au/planning_and_urban_design/griffin_legacy/model.asp

A Southbank type spot would be lovely.
BUT there are huge numbers of people that walk around the lake (bridge to bridge) around lunchtime and it would be a shame to block access with shops and cafes. (a pleasant path around the back would do it.)

No starbucks/maccas please!

Perhaps it will enjoy the same runaway success as brand depot! Oh….wait.

I would urge you to support the as yet unannounced plans for our own Water World, with performing dolphins in summer, and seals and polar bears in winter.

Its a man made lake for a start but there is enough foreshore not to impede the parlimentary triangle. The area near the ferry terminal and the museum is rife for development and Canberra certainly needs more attractivr development. I would like to have my coffee looking over the basin and back to the museum.

I could think of nothing *worse* than a Darling Harbour-esque development at the lake. Darling Harbour, to me, is nothing more than acres upon acres of sterile boring paved touristy rubbish.

Something like Southbank in Melbourne would be alright, though.

I rollerblade arould the lake every weekend. On some days, i might only pass 10 people or so (cooler sundays usually).

It’s not a place that should be there to make money…but a place to be proud of.

Development on the lake is a slippery slope. The thought of a Hungry Jacks and Starbucks next to the high court or blocking the view to parliament house is a disgusting thought.

I agree with Thumper. The lake is too ornamental and sterile as it is.

Let the developers pay for it.

Was it only last Friday that ACT Planning Minister Corbell wanted the Feds to be involved in metropolitan planning? Damn they’re quick.

As I recall Princess Annabelle used work for the ACT Government, so she’ll understand their issues. Mwhaahaahahaha.

Put a coffee machine there and people will come.

VYBerlinaV8 now_with_added grunt2:42 pm 20 Feb 07

Is there sufficient $$ in this town to pay for it? That’s the question that needs to be answered.

Absent Diane2:18 pm 20 Feb 07

no thumper I agree bring it one…

Definately sounds like a good idea to me…

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