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Debate on same-sex civil union continues …

By GnT 24 November 2009 85

The debate on same-sex civil unions continues, with a press release from Jon Stanhope stating the new legislation is not ‘anti-Christian’, as the Australian Christian Lobby asserts, but about ‘inclusiveness’. Jim Wallace has in turn responded that Stanhope has no mandate as claimed.

There has been some vigorous debate on this site about the merits of same-sex civil unions (or otherwise) but a big part of the issue is the right of the ACT to govern for its citizens which have elected it. If a state passed similar laws, as Victoria and Tasmania are likely to do, the federal government would not be able to overturn them so easily, despite what they thought of the actual laws. The feds forced self government upon us, but won’t allow us to govern ourselves if our laws don’t meet their moral criteria. Butt out Rudd!

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Hells_Bells74 11:59 am 08 Dec 09

sloppery said :

KidKenosha said :

Considering the number of original baby boomers about to hit retirement age, I would imagine those of us born since the 80s are going to be too busy subsidising adult nappies and hip replacements to fight wars…

The baby boomers are going to be working for a while yet. As a generation they have spent lots and generally not invested enough for the retirement they think they’ll have. In the US, a lot of retirement planning now assumes working until 70!

I think you’re right there sloppery.

My bf and I went to his work (fencing) xmas party on Saturday night and there were two elderly men there. One was still working and one had been let go last year at the ripe old age of 84. I’m pretty sure they both fall into the age group for retiring at 55.. Madness!

Good on ’em for keeping them on!

sloppery 8:47 am 08 Dec 09

KidKenosha said :

Considering the number of original baby boomers about to hit retirement age, I would imagine those of us born since the 80s are going to be too busy subsidising adult nappies and hip replacements to fight wars…

The baby boomers are going to be working for a while yet. As a generation they have spent lots and generally not invested enough for the retirement they think they’ll have. In the US, a lot of retirement planning now assumes working until 70!

KidKenosha 2:35 am 08 Dec 09

johnboy said :

Incidentally Peter Costello’s baby boom is going to see Australia all geared up for some war fighting in the early 2020s just to thin out the ranks of the youth bubble. Coincidence?

Considering the number of original baby boomers about to hit retirement age, I would imagine those of us born since the 80s are going to be too busy subsidising adult nappies and hip replacements to fight wars…

georgesgenitals 4:13 pm 28 Nov 09

johnboy said :

Actually Watto, even ostensibly religious wars like the Crusades night on a millenia ago were really more motivated by economic factors.

If there’s economic opportunity at home most people like to stay home, if not they go wandering, and depending on how the locals react to their arrival you get wars or not.

Incidentally Peter Costello’s baby boom is going to see Australia all geared up for some war fighting in the early 2020s just to thin out the ranks of the youth bubble. Coincidence?

Good point. I’d suggest, though, that Australia’s economic situation 10-15 years from now could well be so good that the only fighting would be keeping the rest of the world from coming and grabbing our (massive) supply of useful resources. When nuclear energy generation gets rolled out large scale in other parts of the world (eg China or India), we could well be the Saudi Arabia of the 21st century.

johnboy 8:19 am 28 Nov 09

Actually Watto, even ostensibly religious wars like the Crusades night on a millenia ago were really more motivated by economic factors.

If there’s economic opportunity at home most people like to stay home, if not they go wandering, and depending on how the locals react to their arrival you get wars or not.

Incidentally Peter Costello’s baby boom is going to see Australia all geared up for some war fighting in the early 2020s just to thin out the ranks of the youth bubble. Coincidence?

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