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Does anyone care what the Australian Christian Lobby thinks about prostitution in the ACT? [Now with poll]

By johnboy 12 May 2011 65

The ACL is thrilled that gullible buffoons in Canberra’s major media (WIN, ABC, CT) are taking them seriously when it comes to changes to prostitution law in the ACT.

In a city of 300,000 it would be a shock if the ACL could sway more than 1,000 votes.

Is presenting good talent for interview and controversial views all that is necessary to get oxygen?

(For the record the ACL wants buying the services of prostitutes a crime.)

Do you care what the Australian Christian Lobby thinks about prostitution?

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Mysteryman 10:47 am 14 Nov 11

devils_advocate said :

There are numerous detailed accounts in the New Testament of Jesus specifically making a point to look after the societally disadvantaged, including prostitutes and adulterers. In fact this was the basis of one of the more well-known accounts, culminating with ‘let he who is without sin cast the first stone” (involving a female adulterer about to be stoned to death by angy mob).

In my view, it seems pretty unambiguous that anyone purporting to be a christian would be more about harm minimisation (i.e. actually directly helping people) than sitting around judging people (which is all this is about – making a political point – because let’s face it it will have zero impact on the level of actual activity, and will give rise to all the problems noted above).

That’s a good point. If you actually speak to the ACL I think you’ll find that protecting the people involved is a huge part of their motives. The Eros foundation, and people who are in favour of prostitution, neglect to mention that there are an awful lot of girls involved who don’t want to be involved. They paint a picture that everyone working in the sex industry is there by choice and enjoying their job. I’m sure that is true for some/many, but for many others it’s not. Even in the ACT where it’s legalised and supposedly regulated, there are a large number of girls forced into it (including immigrants who have been trafficked – yes it happens in Canberra). Regulation has done little to help these people and ensure that only those who want to be, are working.

I suppose the issue is the difference of opinion in regards to what constitutes “helping” the disadvantaged.

devils_advocate 10:11 am 14 Nov 11

There are numerous detailed accounts in the New Testament of Jesus specifically making a point to look after the societally disadvantaged, including prostitutes and adulterers. In fact this was the basis of one of the more well-known accounts, culminating with ‘let he who is without sin cast the first stone” (involving a female adulterer about to be stoned to death by angy mob).

In my view, it seems pretty unambiguous that anyone purporting to be a christian would be more about harm minimisation (i.e. actually directly helping people) than sitting around judging people (which is all this is about – making a political point – because let’s face it it will have zero impact on the level of actual activity, and will give rise to all the problems noted above).

Mysteryman 10:10 am 14 Nov 11

The ACL is a lobby group. Fundamentally they are just like any other lobby group. They speak to politicians on behalf of constituents whose interests they represent (and despite assertions to the contrary, I sincerely doubt that most genuinely religious people are in favour of legalised prostitution) Those of you whinging about it are more than welcome to set up your own lobby group, rather than bitching about it like a group of cry babies and acting like you are the only ones with all the answers. I’m sure if your point of view is as insightful and enlightened as you think it is, then the politicians will listen to you.

Deref 7:28 am 14 Nov 11

2604 said :

Deref said :

The sex industry isn’t forcing you to use its products and services, nor are they attempting to stop you and your religious friends from doing anything; you and your religion are attempting (and, so far, succeeding) to force us to consume your your products and services (i.e. your “morals”) and to prevent people from engaging in their chosen businesses and pursuits.

The ACL doesn’t exactly have a monopoly on forcing its morals onto people though. Ever heard of an entity called the Australian Greens?

You don’t have to like them, but at least the Greens were democratically elected and won a significant number of seats. The ACL’s candidates, where they stand, do as badly as you’d expect them to; I think Fred Nile’s about the only one. Of course there are plenty of ACL supporters among our pollies, but they’re not honest enough to admit their allegiance in their campaigns – they only show their colours once they’re elected.

2604 said :

Also, I should re-emphasise what has been said elsewhere – the ACL are not representative of mainstream religious people, most of whom have no issue with legalised prostitution (nor gay marriage, stem cell research, etc).

But you never hear the “mainstream” criticising the ACL or its influence, do you. When was the last time you saw “mainstream” Christians demonstrating for gay marriage or the handing over of paedophiles in their church to the police?

I’ll believe it when I see it.

2604 10:08 pm 13 Nov 11

Deref said :

The sex industry isn’t forcing you to use its products and services, nor are they attempting to stop you and your religious friends from doing anything; you and your religion are attempting (and, so far, succeeding) to force us to consume your your products and services (i.e. your “morals”) and to prevent people from engaging in their chosen businesses and pursuits.

The ACL doesn’t exactly have a monopoly on forcing its morals onto people though. Ever heard of an entity called the Australian Greens?

Also, I should re-emphasise what has been said elsewhere – the ACL are not representative of mainstream religious people, most of whom have no issue with legalised prostitution (nor gay marriage, stem cell research, etc).

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