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Greens propose Heritage Wiki

By Jazz - 13 October 2012 16

I read with some interest this morning the Greens propose to commit a modest $35,000 over 4 years to fill the apparent need in Canberra for a Heritage Wiki. For those not in the know a wiki is a collaboratively created website where users can add
and modify content. The Greens feel that a communal online space where Canberrans have a place to upload stories, memories, photographs and films about buildings, objects and places across the ACT is of significant importance in the lead up to Canberra’s centenary next year.

Caroline Le Couteur says “This would be an Australian first, the wiki representing a community based, multi-media heritage
resource, promoting and sharing Canberrans’ sense of pride and belonging to our special city,”

“Canberra has a rich and varied history, and this is well documented, but it is mostly hidden away in libraries or in peoples’ homes and minds”

(and on RiotACT Caroline)

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16 Responses to
Greens propose Heritage Wiki
Postalgeek 10:22 pm 14 Oct 12

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

… someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). .

See? I rest my case. Work hasn’t even started on this “heritage wiki” and you are apparently already planning nasty, personal content, that I would have to remove, and eventually possibly request a blocking on such.
Unless it is funded through a formal organisation, it won’t work.
If it is in the hands of Greens-picked volunteers, it will be filtered by self-righteous fascists through oft-hypocritical PC tropes and censored, and slanted.

What a troll…

No case to argue … so you resort to cheap personal shots. If the pro-heritage-wiki folk take your attitude, as I said, it’s stuffed before it’s even being constructed.

Twenty seconds of looking would’ve informed you that the grant is going to the ACT National Trust to establish and maintain the wiki. You didn’t seem able to come up with that yourself yet you apparently have a deep insight into the pitfalls of this wiki. I don’t think so.

You know those biased Greenies you rant about? You do realise you’re the other side of the same coin, don’t you?

Anyway re the wiki I think it’s a good idea and cheap at the price.

Girt_Hindrance 9:42 pm 14 Oct 12

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

… someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). .

See? I rest my case. Work hasn’t even started on this “heritage wiki” and you are apparently already planning nasty, personal content, that I would have to remove, and eventually possibly request a blocking on such.
Unless it is funded through a formal organisation, it won’t work.
If it is in the hands of Greens-picked volunteers, it will be filtered by self-righteous fascists through oft-hypocritical PC tropes and censored, and slanted.

What a troll…

No case to argue … so you resort to cheap personal shots. If the pro-heritage-wiki folk take your attitude, as I said, it’s stuffed before it’s even being constructed.

Hilarious. What a colossal hypocrite this Masquara is.
“Those who say it can’t be done should get out of the way of people who are already doing it”.
Masquara’d be singing a completely different song if this were a Liberal policy.

Masquara 7:39 pm 14 Oct 12

54-11 said :

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

… someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). .

See? I rest my case. Work hasn’t even started on this “heritage wiki” and you are apparently already planning nasty, personal content, that I would have to remove, and eventually possibly request a blocking on such.
Unless it is funded through a formal organisation, it won’t work.
If it is in the hands of Greens-picked volunteers, it will be filtered by self-righteous fascists through oft-hypocritical PC tropes and censored, and slanted.

What a troll…

No case to argue … so you resort to cheap personal shots. If the pro-heritage-wiki folk take your attitude, as I said, it’s stuffed before it’s even being constructed.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:14 pm 14 Oct 12

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

… someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). .

See? I rest my case. Work hasn’t even started on this “heritage wiki” and you are apparently already planning nasty, personal content, that I would have to remove, and eventually possibly request a blocking on such.
Unless it is funded through a formal organisation, it won’t work.
If it is in the hands of Greens-picked volunteers, it will be filtered by self-righteous fascists through oft-hypocritical PC tropes and censored, and slanted.

You do to seem to understand how wikis work.

54-11 6:10 pm 14 Oct 12

Masquara said :

54-11 said :

… someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). .

See? I rest my case. Work hasn’t even started on this “heritage wiki” and you are apparently already planning nasty, personal content, that I would have to remove, and eventually possibly request a blocking on such.
Unless it is funded through a formal organisation, it won’t work.
If it is in the hands of Greens-picked volunteers, it will be filtered by self-righteous fascists through oft-hypocritical PC tropes and censored, and slanted.

What a troll…

Masquara 3:54 pm 14 Oct 12

54-11 said :

… someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). .

See? I rest my case. Work hasn’t even started on this “heritage wiki” and you are apparently already planning nasty, personal content, that I would have to remove, and eventually possibly request a blocking on such.
Unless it is funded through a formal organisation, it won’t work.
If it is in the hands of Greens-picked volunteers, it will be filtered by self-righteous fascists through oft-hypocritical PC tropes and censored, and slanted.

poetix 2:20 pm 14 Oct 12

So everyone who gets moderated ‘elsewhere’ can get their revenge on the Heritage Wiki site…

The ‘pride and belonging’ bit is interesting; will anything negative disappear, magically? I hope not, otherwise it would be a tad North Korean. History without negatives is propaganda. (That sentence sounds worryingly like a political slogan…)

Your last aside is interesting; RA does already do this sort of thing, although in a different way, and could, I assume, do more with similar funding to that proposed for this new site, in the form of a grant or whatever. (Filthy gubmint moneys.)

JB’s History Corner…hmmm, maybe not.

Woody Mann-Caruso 1:04 pm 14 Oct 12

Wikipedia angsted and still angsts over censorship.

And yet it works. It’s amazing what grown-ups can achieve.

It’s a multi-multi-million dollar organisation.

And it proposes to hold the sum of human knowledge and be accessed by tens of millions of people every day. Surely you’d agree Canberra and its heritage are just a tad smaller than that. (We might need some extra server space to hold your rants about Eros, though.)

let’s see your practical insights into just how issues can be solved regarding this proposed website as per my outline above.

That breathless, paranoid rant was an outline?

My ‘practical insight’ is ‘it’s $35K – let’s see what happens rather than hitching up our little red wagon full of persecution delusions before it’s started’.

My other insight is that you’re the one with the extraordinary claim that a tried and tested approach won’t work here because Eros censorship orbital mind control lasers, so the burden of proof rests with you.

You simply haven’t considered the issues here.

Are they those scrawlings you called an ‘outline’? Consider them considered.

54-11 12:29 pm 14 Oct 12

Masquara said :

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

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Successful wikis running all over the world every day

There is a massive difference between private wikis and wikis instigated by government. Private wikis can be as political, cynical and partisan as they like. A government funded wiki is an entirely different kettle of fish. You simply haven't considered the issues here.

Rubbish. What this would do is formalise, for example, some of the discussions on RA, where people ask questions of different sites around the Capital. Just in the last few weeks, someone was after information about creepy sites (maybe Masquara’s place would qualify). The many responses would make a great foundation for a wiki entry.

Some of us are now at an age where friends and relatives of a similar generation are passing on, and with them go many memories and knowledge of places. So let’s get these recorded formally in such a wiki while we can.

So what a great idea, at minimal cost. Masquara’s negativity at anything that is not Lib-initiated is very boring.

Primal 12:12 pm 14 Oct 12

According to the ABC article, that $35,000 would be over four years? This really is not a well thought-out idea…

Masquara 11:38 am 14 Oct 12

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

<
Successful wikis running all over the world every day

There is a massive difference between private wikis and wikis instigated by government. Private wikis can be as political, cynical and partisan as they like. A government funded wiki is an entirely different kettle of fish. You simply haven't considered the issues here.

Masquara 11:36 am 14 Oct 12

Woody Mann-Caruso said :

Could the Greens be any more STUPID?

herr derr i dun undnnastan tecknolugy gehrsbehrmps

Successful wikis running all over the world every day make it clear that somebody’s stupid here. By your logic, Wikipedia is a dismal failure.

PS eros eros eros

Look at the funding promised – $35,000. Wikipedia angsted and still angsts over censorship. It’s a multi-multi-million dollar organisation. Rather than a useless post from you, let’s see your practical insights into just how issues can be solved regarding this proposed website as per my outline above. Without any money.

Woody Mann-Caruso 9:51 am 14 Oct 12

Could the Greens be any more STUPID?

herr derr i dun undnnastan tecknolugy gehrsbehrmps

Successful wikis running all over the world every day make it clear that somebody’s stupid here. By your logic, Wikipedia is a dismal failure.

PS eros eros eros

Yorick_Hunt 7:35 pm 13 Oct 12

They would need to have CanberraWiki, ParliamentaryTriangleWiki and RubenWiki for some Raiders heritage….

Masquara 4:52 pm 13 Oct 12

Let’s see – Eros Foundation will jump in straight away in the guise of a community organisation … followed by various more bona fide but confronting Belconnen churches … and in the spirit of Andrew Barr’s “wiki” where various Labor apparatchiks and interests were added to to the Canberra location of some variant of google earth (but his minders kept an equivalent locator to Gary Humphries out). How do the Greens plan to have this moderated? How will they define “community”? How will they define “heritage”? How will they deal with arguments between fundamentalists of various persuasions? How will decisions be made regarding necessary censorship of various unpleasant “memories”?
How will they go at voices, posts, places, memories – that they happen not to like? What will they do if person A from the Causeway remembers something differently from person B, a la wikipedia, and there are constant, contested updates and revisions? How do they plan to deal with heritage-related biography, and accounts of living persons? How do they plan to deal with the politics? This is Canberra, and the federal arena won’t be able to be kept out: how will Julia Gillard’s speech last week be dealt with as a “cultural heritage intangible”? How will the issues around the Tent Embassy be marked? How about issues of privacy?
Could the Greens be any more STUPID?

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