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High Speed Rail

By stirred408 - 6 August 2010 17

Looks like if you want high speed rail connect  Canberra to Sydney and beyond, vote Liberal!

(According to this media release)

Labor’s press release doesn’t mention Canberra.

ABC news tonight said Labor’s proposal goes through Parkes and Albury – BUT NOT CANBERRA.

What’s Your opinion?


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17 Responses to
High Speed Rail
lobster 10:49 am 07 Aug 10

Yeah, for sure. This will happen right after the dragway that ha been promised for years.

MrPC 12:38 am 07 Aug 10

Forget about upgrading the existing track from Goulburn (Yarra/Joppa Junction) to Canberra. It is beyond all hope. Build the new route from Gunning to Canberra that has been proposed oh-so-many times, and then work on realigning the main line.

On the main line, the most important part is to build yet another bypass between Mittagong and Douglas Park, running via Pheasants Nest instead of pottering around Picton backwards like the current route. Straightening out the curves would be good too.

Xplorers can run at 145km/h. It’s enough, but there just aren’t enough Xplorers to run an hourly or better service, so they’ll need new trains too. 180km/h is fast enough. Faster than 180 and you start needing extremely large amounts of diesel or electricity to overcome wind resistance, and very specialised safety and other equipment requirements that push the price up by an order of magnitude. If they could get it up to a 180km/h service, four train sets plus one spare would provide an hourly service.

Also, the folks in Goulburn would also love being able to commute to Canberra by rail, so long as the line goes to Civic instead of having to bus it in from Snowtown or Kingston. The irony though is that they’ll probably end up commuting to Sydney. It now costs the same to commute to Sydney from Goulburn as it does from, say, South Cronulla (MyMulti 3).

Davo111 12:16 am 07 Aug 10

but can it beat $25 greyhound/murrays to sydney

Chip 11:00 pm 06 Aug 10

Popular support for fast train proposals will falter when it becomes clear that there would be huge injections of taxpayer funds, PLUS huge long term tax concessions and profit guarantees for the infrastructure developer PLUS windfall gains for developers of residential land along the corridor; land that may be compulsorily acquired with below value compensation for current owners. And then, ordinary folk who have contributed either directly with their taxes or indirectly through reduced government investment on other government services, cannot afford the likely fares.

All of these problems are a reflection of the low user population per train kilometre. Sad but real. Fuel price rises will force people to be more frugal with their travel, take a bus or accept current train infrastructure. In the meantime, the fast train feasability study industry will thrive. Guns for hire will be paid a fortune to eventually give the goverment the ammunition to shoot down the hopes that were cynically promoted by the same politicians. At most we might end up with a fast train from Newcastle to Wollongong, so let’s spend planned Brisbane, Canberra, Melbourne VFT feasability study money on upgrading the existing track.

georgesgenitals 6:19 pm 06 Aug 10

bobbatty said :

I’d pump for a light rail experience to Qbn where we could catch buses to Yass to connect the Very Very Fast Train.

Who would you pump for it? Will put the video up online?

bobbatty 3:50 pm 06 Aug 10

I’d pump for a light rail experience to Qbn where we could catch buses to Yass to connect the Very Very Fast Train.

Woody Mann-Caruso 12:59 pm 06 Aug 10

Will it go through the Multifunction Polis?

Sure will! You’ll be able to look out your window at all those shuttles NASA will be launching at the new Space City, too!

Trunking symbols 12:04 pm 06 Aug 10

Will it go through the Multifunction Polis?

amarooresident3 11:52 am 06 Aug 10

I’m going to say this slowly.

It. Will. Never. Happen.

astrojax 11:49 am 06 Aug 10

zephyr9673 said :

http://the-riotact.com/?p=25031 Suggests the greens are for light rail. Oh let it be free 🙂

And a high speed link, sounds like Bobs Browns proposal.

There is One thing I want from the libs, A Federal youth commissioner that has the power to hold the legal system to account when a decision results in the harming of a child.
The power to intervene in anypart of socity where a child is at risk and there are know other agencies acting or charged to act, and to reseach and remedy that situation.\

(http://www.kidsindistress.org.au/files/Man-charged-with-murder-,-rape-and-indecent-treatment-of-10yr-old-girl.php)

Getting it? It is time our judges faced the music for their grotesque failures. Self regulation hasn’t worked.
The liberals, are opposed to any third party scrutiny of our legal system. I figure, if we are gonna get fined for J walking They should be locked up when they Falsely imprison, or as a result of their decisions, somone is harmed, they go to jail. That should start addressing the human rights issues behind bars.

Oh, Dingle, when you find explosives, and material to make more, thats a bombmaker, if you can’t see that, you have no place on the bench, go and work forr a living. Joseph is a dangerous individual, I hope when he gets out, he blows your family up you disgrace. I am the guy he assaulted and called the police despite the criminals threatening to kill me, that lead to the discovery of his bomb factory.

What is it the libs are offering our children?

They are going to ax the doll. We will be lucky to get food stamps.
The coalition should be thrown onto the streets and feed dirt $100 a plate.

this has ‘what’ to do with a fast rail link? or did i miss the link??

and then btw, why do you only want this from the libs? if it is so important (and am not saying it isn’t) then why wouldn’t either party who introduced it be the one to get your vote??

Thumper 11:40 am 06 Aug 10

Um.. right….

justin heywood 11:32 am 06 Aug 10

Zephyr9673. I think that post should be over on the barking thread.

colourful sydney rac 11:22 am 06 Aug 10

FOTW????

zephyr9673 11:01 am 06 Aug 10

http://the-riotact.com/?p=25031 Suggests the greens are for light rail. Oh let it be free 🙂

And a high speed link, sounds like Bobs Browns proposal.

There is One thing I want from the libs, A Federal youth commissioner that has the power to hold the legal system to account when a decision results in the harming of a child.
The power to intervene in anypart of socity where a child is at risk and there are know other agencies acting or charged to act, and to reseach and remedy that situation.\

(http://www.kidsindistress.org.au/files/Man-charged-with-murder-,-rape-and-indecent-treatment-of-10yr-old-girl.php)

Getting it? It is time our judges faced the music for their grotesque failures. Self regulation hasn’t worked.
The liberals, are opposed to any third party scrutiny of our legal system. I figure, if we are gonna get fined for J walking They should be locked up when they Falsely imprison, or as a result of their decisions, somone is harmed, they go to jail. That should start addressing the human rights issues behind bars.

Oh, Dingle, when you find explosives, and material to make more, thats a bombmaker, if you can’t see that, you have no place on the bench, go and work forr a living. Joseph is a dangerous individual, I hope when he gets out, he blows your family up you disgrace. I am the guy he assaulted and called the police despite the criminals threatening to kill me, that lead to the discovery of his bomb factory.

What is it the libs are offering our children?

They are going to ax the doll. We will be lucky to get food stamps.
The coalition should be thrown onto the streets and feed dirt $100 a plate.

Mothy 11:01 am 06 Aug 10

OMG, the Labor press-release you linked didn’t specifically mention Sydney either! Is it just going to go straight from Brisbane to Melbourne!??

Douche.

Maybe you meant this one? Where they don’t try to vote grab as the Liberals do by pre-determining the route?

And maybe you should separate discussion of the above High Speed Rail study from that of the Inland Rail Link. If you did that, you might able to untwist your knickers over the route through Parkes and Albury a little.

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