26 November 2009

Inflatable pools and spas?

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So my boyfriend is obsessed with the idea of getting a full size inflatable pool or spa. If you haven’t seen them they look like this:

My question for Canberra is this: would inflatable pools and spas be allowed under water restrictions? And has anyone tried these? It looks like it has a serious risk of being cheap and nasty…

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jamaicabraden10:56 pm 30 May 11

nope, never tried that and i think it’s kinda risky. i only have an inflatable pools which i have bought from backyard ocean. it’s great and very simple.

How the hell did a computer geek pull a hottie like that!she’s way fit….,he looks scared of her though!

Thoroughly Smashed4:18 pm 30 Nov 09

Thoroughly Smashed said :

But I thought misquoting people was de rigueur around here! (I know absolutely nothing about pool regulations.)

And also stuffing up the quote tags…

midlife said :

Please never make the assumption that children will never be in your house. Children do visit (invited or uninvited) and having easy access to the pool is a recipe for disaster. Many accidents happen to children who do not live where the pool is.

Im looking at one of these pools, and I can tell you with certainty, the last time there was a child (anyone under 18) in this house, was over 10 years ago. The last time there was a child in this house who wasnt me, was probably closer to 15 years, so while it may be an ‘assumption’, sometimes they can be safe to make. Not everyone lets kids through their home (to do as they please). It sounds like this pool is being installed on a deck behind locked doors, so anyone who manages to get to where a fence would be needed, would have obviously broken through a locked door/gate, so a fence wont exactly stop them.

I also have to ask, as a short-statured person (4′ tall) if I put a 5′ high pool fence in, what compromises will they allow for me? Will the ACT govt physically stop me from installing a pool, because I cant make a fence that meets their requirements, to provide myself with access to the area?

Thoroughly Smashed10:11 am 30 Nov 09

SpellingAndGrammar said :

Thoroughly Smashed said :

How dare the government attempt to prevent people from behaving irresponsibly!

Thoroughly Smashed – I was not suggesting that one should behave irresponsibly and definately not with a pool. What I was saying however, is that the requirements to get a pool approved by ACTPLA are extremely onerous and disproportionate. The regulations currently applied are definately aimed at those people with in-ground pools and are probably quite appropriate for such. However, if you want to erect an above ground pool, even a small one, the requirements are unbelievable, to the point where it makes it so hard to comply that it most likely deters people from attempting to comply at all.

But I thought misquoting people was de rigueur around here! (I know absolutely nothing about pool regulations.)

Gee whiz and I save water by not flushing my tiolet, all depends!

BimboGeek said :

In response to all your very thoughtful concerns,

We don’t have any children so no risk of child urine. We also already have a really safe fence (it’s a townhouse so we’re one of the few properties that has a proper fence).

You would actually need a proper, child-proof fence around the pool – not just your yard. Small children can get over high fences – they are incredibly good at balancing things in stacks and then climbing them!

SpellingAndGrammar8:10 pm 27 Nov 09

Thoroughly Smashed said :

How dare the government attempt to prevent people from behaving irresponsibly!

Thoroughly Smashed – I was not suggesting that one should behave irresponsibly and definately not with a pool. What I was saying however, is that the requirements to get a pool approved by ACTPLA are extremely onerous and disproportionate. The regulations currently applied are definately aimed at those people with in-ground pools and are probably quite appropriate for such. However, if you want to erect an above ground pool, even a small one, the requirements are unbelievable, to the point where it makes it so hard to comply that it most likely deters people from attempting to comply at all.

@imarty – I congratulate you for doing the sensible, safe, and right thing in erecting a pool fence, in cases like yours if you don’t think they look tacky then I applaud you using one of those and doing it safely.

@bimbogeek – I am disgusted by your attitude to safety, the fact you have a high townhouse fence is irrelevant. If you get a large pool then get a bloody proper fence for it, otherwise I hope one of your neighbours reports you and you do get fined, you should be ashamed of yourself for being willing to risk a friends child drowning on a visit for example by not doing the safe thing anfd building a fence, which is required by law no less.

Hells_Bells742:52 pm 27 Nov 09

I don’t think that one would be very deep, judging by the picture, the adult lady is kneeling and the toddler is standing and it’s only to the top of her legs. The man is squatting. I won one same size but not inflatable years ago at a raffle and if you stood up it wasn’t much past one knees (They’re just good for sitting in).

It was good for one summer (main problem for the next year, the next two years of sun ate my filter hoses and I didn’t keep the chlorine up when it was cold or I should of emptied it better, the bit that remained went to staining sludge, damn slopey backyard and didn’t think enough where to put the drain, oops).

Enjoy and I found a super chlorinate occasionally and a floater with chlorine tablets kept it good for swimming.

🙂

Please never make the assumption that children will never be in your house. Children do visit (invited or uninvited) and having easy access to the pool is a recipe for disaster. Many accidents happen to children who do not live where the pool is.

if its over 3foot deep you’ll need a fence, house fence isnt considered good enough, has to be proper pool fence.

Dont set it up uphill from your house. If the sun kills the cheap plastic and it splits, think about where the water is going to go.

Other than that, have fun.

BimboGeek said :

In response to all your very thoughtful concerns,

We also already have a really safe fence (it’s a townhouse so we’re one of the few properties that has a proper fence).

But anyway thanks for the feedback on the quality of these pools (or lack thereof) and letting me know that we should probably look at limiting the size so that it doesn’t technically qualify as a pool (or waste a lot of water!)

I think it will be fun but I won’t expect it to last forever.

Bimbo I have a 10 foot pool it cost me $100, came with a filter and everything i needed to get it going except the water… the tank sorted that out and it’s awesome to cool off in… we have partys at our house and we have had 5 adults in there at one time no worries at all… put it on sand or the grass and enjoy the coolness…

In response to all your very thoughtful concerns,

We don’t have any children so no risk of child urine. We also already have a really safe fence (it’s a townhouse so we’re one of the few properties that has a proper fence).

Yeah it would be safe and all that – and not an eyesore since nobody would be able to see it…

But anyway thanks for the feedback on the quality of these pools (or lack thereof) and letting me know that we should probably look at limiting the size so that it doesn’t technically qualify as a pool (or waste a lot of water!)

I think it will be fun but I won’t expect it to last forever. Or necessarily be a good idea. Yup just because something’s not a good idea, doesn’t mean it won’t be fun!

Sorry #19 Chop71… I am a tree climber but we don’t have any! Let’s put a saucer of water under your tree for me to practice diving into instead.

I bought one (2.4m diameter) yesterday from toys r us – only cost $80 (plus $10 for cover and $9 for tarp for ground from reject shop) – I figure that’s pretty good value if it lasts a couple of years…although I havn’t actually assembled or used it yet so we’ll see how it goes…

Thoroughly Smashed8:43 am 27 Nov 09

SpellingAndGrammar said :

Yes, you would need a child-proof fence, but good luck with getting it all approved. The fun police in the ACT (ACTPLA) want you to support the local building community and you will have to get the thing authorised by a proper pool builder, ensure the plumbing is connected to the waste (including compliance certificate) and also have a certifier check that it is all OK. And that is AFTER you pay the money for a Development Approval and pay tax on the value of the addition to your property. Ooh, and be careful where you site in on your property.

How dare the government attempt to prevent people from behaving irresponsibly!

Up The Duffy1:39 am 27 Nov 09

Get a new Boyfriend, Its only all downhill from here.

If you have a tree, climb to the highest branch and practice your belly flops in it. Make sure the water is only 1 foot deep to qualify for the world record.

georgesgenitals said :

You do realise that after a few uses you’ll be bathing in diluted child urine, right?

No different from using a public swimming pool then?

georgesgenitals9:37 pm 26 Nov 09

You do realise that after a few uses you’ll be bathing in diluted child urine, right?

We have a 366cm diameter 90cm deep Intex brand with a filter and have just erected it for the 2nd year. Cost about $260 from memory.
I prepared & levelled an area for it with washed sand and got a proper pool fence erected. Our 3yo absolutely loves it and for cooling off on a hot day it’s great. I can sit down with my arms over the edge with a stubbie in one hand whilst my boy has a great time splashing about and practicing his swimming.
I throw some chlorine in it & turn the filter on every second day & cover it when not in use, just like a real pool actually.
We’ve not had a problem and I would actually recommend it.

Psst, they don’t really look like that. Just like in the Fantastic Furniture print ads, they use really miniature people or bad photoshop to make the thing look normal sized.

Ditch the pool idea. However you may be better off with an inflatable boyfriend.

YES…. buy it and invite all kids to use it – so i can have the public pools to myself !!!

We really are an over-privileged bunch of wankers in Canberra aren’t we? All we’re concerned about is “beating/cheating” water restrictions (designed to ensure fair usage of our water) and rules on pool fencing etc.. (designed to keep our children alive), and even with an median or average income higher than other capital cities in austrlia, we’re still the ultimate cheapskates on top of all that. Ugly as anythign and dangerous as anything if you ask me, im sure you can tell the ACTEW inspectors that “everyone else on RiotACT said I can ignore water restrictions so why are you fining me?”.

SpellingAndGrammar7:34 pm 26 Nov 09

Yes, you would need a child-proof fence, but good luck with getting it all approved. The fun police in the ACT (ACTPLA) want you to support the local building community and you will have to get the thing authorised by a proper pool builder, ensure the plumbing is connected to the waste (including compliance certificate) and also have a certifier check that it is all OK. And that is AFTER you pay the money for a Development Approval and pay tax on the value of the addition to your property. Ooh, and be careful where you site in on your property.

I-filed said :

I’d say not – and I guess you’d have to install child-proof fencing around it …

+1 And you’d be an irresponsible arsehole if you didn’t

Its just a large bath isnt it?

Looks like an absolute piece of garbage. Those little kids inflatable pools generally last a fortnight at most before dying. This would do the same but cost much, much more

I’d say not – and I guess you’d have to install child-proof fencing around it …

so awful, so bad. please don’t, if not for you, your neighbors and god forbid if you put it in your front yard. yikes

It depends on the size..
At a certain Litre-age the pool needs (A) a permit and then (b) a fence!

If so .. u need to have it inspected before you fill it..

This is if you do it properly tho.. I’m sure most dont!

grunge_hippy5:00 pm 26 Nov 09

we have one, and it worked a treat for cooling off on a stinking hot day. we haven’t used it for a while, cos we have a/c now but it was great when we did use it. you still need to chlorinate it, and some come with a pump, ours didn’t and we didn’t really need it. but you do need a cover, to keep all the crap (leaves etc) out of it. it was pretty cheap too from memory, under $100.

as for it being allowed under water restrictions…. *cough*

to be honest, I don’t know and frankly didn’t care. its filling that up once vs. having shower and or bath ad nauseum to escape the heat.

Gungahlin Al4:59 pm 26 Nov 09

If you are filling it from your own tank, you can do as you wish. From the tap? Don’t think so.

We purchased one a couple of years ago… Depending on the size the answer is yes and no… Certain sizes fall below the minimum size considered a pool and thus are not subject to water restrictions. The larger sizes are subject to water restrictions, and are sometimes sold even though they can’t be used so work out the size you want and check against the ACTEW website is my piece of advice…

They are cheap, but don’t go to too much effort in preparing the area. Provided the ground is somewhat flat you should be ok… Accept the fact that your grass will look dead for a couple of months once you take the thing down.

Also don’t expect it to be a long term purchase. Ours was great the first year we used it, but the second and third years it just didn’t sit right (it was at a strange angle which we just couldn’t fix). Also the sun had destroyed the plastic in the inflatable outside ring which meant that we had to throw it out.

Worst pool ever.

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