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Influenza A comes to Canberra

By GnT - 4 August 2007 31

Four kids are dead in Perth, a four-year-old died in Brisbane, and now a busload of kids from the Gold Coast are sick in Canberra Hospital, all due to an outbreak of the dangerous “Influenza A”.

I’ve had first hand experience of this, as I spent a couple of hours yesterday in hospital with my two-year-old, who had a fever which wouldn’t go down. The good news is after a rough night of high temperatures, and 24 hours of force feeding him paracetamol and ibuprofen, he appears to be on the mend. They are apparently dropping like flies at his day care centre.

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asp 6:59 pm 07 Aug 07

To claify my comment about flu shots in the public service, I do not believe the government would be paying for desk jockeys to have flu shots unless it provides some sought of gain for them.

asp 6:56 pm 07 Aug 07

correction: logical

asp 6:55 pm 07 Aug 07

Okay maeliner, allow me to put this issue to rest, using language that will suite your apparanelty limited logicac thought abilities.

Firstly, I have provided facts from independant sources as well as what I have been told by doctors.

Secondly, in rrsponce to you comment “The Fluvax does not vaccinate you against this years virus”
I ask you, WHY SHOULD IT??? “This years virus[s]” will are not widespread yet and may not be for some time. The shot covers what is predicted to be the most probable, widespread and dangerous strains of flu. It’s no good being pedantic about covering the newest strain if few people would get it anyway, all the while people are getting the much more prvalent strain that has existed for a while. YOUR LOGIC IF FLAWED AND YOU PROVIDE NO EVIDENCE!

Thridly, in responce to ““predict”, “may show”, “even if it didn’t”, and “likely” – these are not words you want to use to reinforce your point”. I use these terms because these are common medical terms. Nothing is certain, and I don’t claim that anything is certain. Much to do with medicine is based on probability. The flu vaccine is based probabilty, the probability that it will cover the right strains, the probability that the vaccine will provide adequate protection against those strains and the probability of the vaccine being readily accepted by the body. Listen to any doctor and they won’t be saying this medicine WILL CERTAINLY protect you, they say it WILL LIKELY protect you.

“This is because this years virus has not been identified yet”
-Out-f**king-standing… great reasoning. Who would have thought that the experts haven’t identified the new strains before they’ve occured. Two thumbs up. But in your favour, you are correct. We we can’t be completely certain what this year’s flu is going to be.

Also, I would like to point out that the Commonwealth Public service (at least in some departments) offers free flu shots.

Finally, I would like to say that I don’t blindly support the flu vaccine. I have had the flu, and have made a choice that I will take steps to help prevent it in the future. But I do not claim claim nor do I beleive that every person should get it, nor does every person need it. I get it, but I’m not in a risk group for the flu. It’s simply a conveinience. But for some, the young, the old, pregnant women, etc, those in the danger group, the flue can be serious. A close relative of mine died years ago. He didn’t have the flu shot. Today, the biggest problem in gaurding against the flu is getting people at risk to have the vaccine. And comments such as yours do not help the situation. That’s why I am defending the vaccine and rebutting your ill thought and unsunstantiated postings. And they are unsubstatiated. I on the otherhand have provided links to onlne material that supports my claims. You on the otherhand have not. In academic terms, the person’s work who cites sources is always considered stronger than the work of someone who makes claims without supporting sources.

I’ve never had a flu vaccine in my life, and am unlikely to start any time soon. So who cares?

Thumper 1:03 pm 07 Aug 07

Oh yeah, but it is fun reading…

🙂

caf 12:29 pm 07 Aug 07

Oh for crying out loud. Can’t you two put the big swinging dicks away and step back for a second? It’s obvious to everyone else that you’re both partially right – asp is right when he says that it’s not a vaccine against last year’s flu, it’s against what’s predicted to be this year’s flu; and Maelinar is right when he says that we can’t be completely certain what this year’s flu is going to be.

Maelinar 8:50 am 07 Aug 07

asp, in response to your questions, yes and yes.

As indicated by Thumper, I am also vaccinated against shit you’ve never even dreamed of. And yes they are current regardless of the fact I’m no longer in the military, on account of I was in PNG earlier this year and got updated.

So stick that in a needle and inject it.

A question in return. Why are you so vehemently protecting the medical industry’s guesswork project ?

You yourself in your rebuttals are using the following words when making up the fluvax “predict”, “may show”, “even if it didn’t”, and “likely” – these are not words you want to use to reinforce your point, as they reinforce mine.

What I have continued to say, and I’ll say this very slowly now: The Fluvax does not vaccinate you against this years virus.

This is because this years virus has not been identified yet.

Please, I continue welcoming your reinforcement of my above statement, as you continue to attempt to rebut my comment. Unless you want me to 3 character space you, it might pay to come up with some facts that support your point of view though.

Thumper 7:53 am 07 Aug 07

hehehe.. It just occured to me, Mael has vaccinations for stuff you couldn’t even dream of. However, I doubt the flu is one of them.

In fact, courtesy of our military, so do I 😉

Thumper 7:50 am 07 Aug 07

I was always under the impression that they provided a vaccine for what was thought to be the most possible strains that could emerge for that year given that the virus evolves so quickly.

asp 6:47 pm 06 Aug 07

correction: I know the flu vaccine is not part of the schedule and is more of a “luxury”, but the way you talk is like that of people who don’t beleive in vaccinations full stop.
For the record, I AM fully immunised as per the sechedule, as well as having two optional immunisations.

asp 6:46 pm 06 Aug 07

maeliner, May I ask you. Are you fully immunsied as per the Australian Immunisation Schedule? And if you have any kids, are they fully immunised as per that schedule?

I know the flu vaccine is not part of the schedule na dis more of a “luxury”, but thae way you talk I like that of people who don’t beleive in vaccinations full stop.
For the record, I AM fully immunised as per the sechedule, as well as having two optional immunisations.

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