13 February 2012

Ingrish at the ailing computer fair

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Found this at the computer markets.

Wonder what term of endearment we apply to indian (ex India) english.

Otherwise looks like the computer markets could be out of business in a year or so.

Both traders and patronage way down from its hey day.

Maybe a change in technology, iPhones and tablets instead of computers.

Also I guess the online stores have helped make the markets redundant.

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Eppo11:06 am 14 Feb 12

Disinformation said :

Seems there are still a lot of people who like to spread FUD about the Computer Fairs. While I like the convenience of MSY as most other people do, occasionally you just have to cruise the fair. Considering that I worked there with a friend who used to have a table in the late 90’s and early noughties and can still go and see some of the vendors like May and Eve, it tends to suggest that you can see the same people if you have issues. That receipt that you get has their contact numbers and addresses too. Sure, there have been a couple of short lived dodgy vendors turn up over the years, but that happens with any sort of fair.

People were still telling me “They sell crap and never come back here” five years after the same vendors came back every two to three weeks. Unfortunately, the fair organisers have turned it into their own moneyspinner. I’m just so glad that I never have to endure summer in the Rex hotel and clientele who’ve yet to discover deoderant any more.

And don’t dis MSY. They’ve never been sitting around doing nothing when I’ve been in there. It’s not their fault that their management wants to keep prices down. It’s for your benefit. Price online, drive in, queue, pay, go home, return if required. It’s how commerce is changing because the demand is there.

It doesn’t matter if the same people turn up. The fact of the matter is you still have to wait 2-3 weeks for them to come back, to return your item. Then 2-3 weeks whilst they ‘test’ it to make sure it is broken and another 2-3 weeks for them to come back. Why would anyone wait 8+ weeks, when you can take it to a local shop, who have a physical presence (MSY) in Canberra (or are extremely well known and responsive, like PCCaseGear) to do a simple thing like an RMA? It’s a pain in the ass that I could do without.

I don’t see anyone dissing MSY either. Everyone knows they have 0 customer service, but that’s because they don’t employ enough staff, which keeps prices down. MSY is a known quantity. I think most geeks in Canberra thew parties when it was revealed MSY were coming to town!

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cross10:48 am 14 Feb 12

Spitfire3 said :

cross said :

“there a some gems”

Now that’s funny. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

A cunning and deliberate ruse, got a couple

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geetee10:16 am 14 Feb 12

Dunno why anyone’s complaining. Written Ind-rish is soooooo much easier to understand than call centre Ind-rish…

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Disinformation10:06 am 14 Feb 12

Seems there are still a lot of people who like to spread FUD about the Computer Fairs. While I like the convenience of MSY as most other people do, occasionally you just have to cruise the fair. Considering that I worked there with a friend who used to have a table in the late 90’s and early noughties and can still go and see some of the vendors like May and Eve, it tends to suggest that you can see the same people if you have issues. That receipt that you get has their contact numbers and addresses too. Sure, there have been a couple of short lived dodgy vendors turn up over the years, but that happens with any sort of fair.

People were still telling me “They sell crap and never come back here” five years after the same vendors came back every two to three weeks. Unfortunately, the fair organisers have turned it into their own moneyspinner. I’m just so glad that I never have to endure summer in the Rex hotel and clientele who’ve yet to discover deoderant any more.

And don’t dis MSY. They’ve never been sitting around doing nothing when I’ve been in there. It’s not their fault that their management wants to keep prices down. It’s for your benefit. Price online, drive in, queue, pay, go home, return if required. It’s how commerce is changing because the demand is there.

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dpm9:42 am 14 Feb 12

Was at MSY yesterday at lunch. Seriously, it looks like a bomb went off inside there! They really should clean up a bit. Hahahaha!
But anyway, good prices and you can go get stuff when you need it – without waiting weeks (let’s face it, we’re an instant-gratification society nowadays!) 🙂

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thy_dungeonman9:07 am 14 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Mothy said :

Had the choice on Saturday – Scorptech or Computer Fair. Scorptech it was.

johnboy said :

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

Never tried playing Battlefield 3 then?

Gaming on the desktop is for a dwindling band IMHO, upgrade treadmill or just get an xbox?

The Xbox 360 is like the apple of gaming. Even if you are upgrading your PC frequently your getting better graphics than the xbox and the next xbox upgrade cycle is bound to be quite expensive (if it comes). Besides if you factor in the cost of games (whether you pirate or buy off steam) you might actually be saving, also if your going to buy a PC for other functions anyway its cheaper to just upgrade it for gaming.

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Deref7:26 am 14 Feb 12

Myles Peterson said :

“…and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet…”

And pay you will. Apple is for the non-techies with lots of cash who don’t mind giving up all their privacy.

Met very few Apple users who even know what a UDID is.

+1

All your everything are belong to Apple.

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MWF11:14 pm 13 Feb 12

cross said :

Have a look at http://engrishfunny.failblog.org/ there a some gems

There sure a!

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dungfungus10:58 pm 13 Feb 12

planeguy said :

The multicultural festival was good for Engrish. Best effort was the dumpling stall…

“3 dumplings with Source – $5
6 dumplings with Source – $8
For $1 get a FREE drink”

The headline banner on that stall was “DUMPLINGS” in very large letters printed on two separate sheets which were joined too far apart for comfort so it read DUMP LINGS.
Neither a dump or a ling was on my mind at the time so I passed that stall without stopping.

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Spitfire310:09 pm 13 Feb 12

cross said :

“there a some gems”

Now that’s funny. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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gazket9:56 pm 13 Feb 12

you get ripped of at the computer fair. usually overpriced 2nds

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astrojax9:55 pm 13 Feb 12

planeguy said :

The multicultural festival was good for Engrish. Best effort was the dumpling stall…

“3 dumplings with Source – $5
6 dumplings with Source – $8
For $1 get a FREE drink”

inghrish? deh was only ensuring you had genuine yangtse river water with the meal to make sure you had the authentic dish, from the sauce…

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planeguy8:33 pm 13 Feb 12

The multicultural festival was good for Engrish. Best effort was the dumpling stall…

“3 dumplings with Source – $5
6 dumplings with Source – $8
For $1 get a FREE drink”

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Thoroughly Smashed1:04 pm 13 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

I never considered paying way over the odds for reduced functionality and performance to be the winning bet, but I’m funny that way.

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cross12:49 pm 13 Feb 12

Have a look at http://engrishfunny.failblog.org/ there a some gems

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arescarti4212:48 pm 13 Feb 12

noma said :

+1 on MSY. Everything sold at Canberra computer fairs is a rip off

I haven’t been to the computer fair since MSY opened. The real attraction for me is that computer hardware actually fails more often than you would think, I had the ethernet port on a motherboard I bought from MSY fail on me about 10 months after I bought. After demonstrating the problem to the MSY folks, I had it swapped out for another one on the spot, and the problem was resolved. That’s a convenience you just don’t have with the computer fair.

johnboy said :

Gaming on the desktop is for a dwindling band IMHO, upgrade treadmill or just get an xbox?

When an xbox can out output a video game to 3 HD LCDs at the same time, I might consider one.

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cross12:44 pm 13 Feb 12

A computer thread ! great troll wish I’d thought of it, can we have some more mac v pc posts and some linux posts as well .love it

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Mysteryman11:55 am 13 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Well let’s face it, an entry level phone these days is a more powerful platform than the computers we were building in the computer fair glory days.

what we’re paying for now is design and integration which slapping components into an ATX case before praying windows would recognise them had little to do with.

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

As someone who does media creation for a living, my opinion is that paying for an Apple is not necessarily the winning bet. It’s the expensive bet. There are other options (both cheaper and similarly priced) that do an equal or better job (especially since the disappointment of Final Cut Pro X

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phototext11:55 am 13 Feb 12

“Gaming on the desktop is for a dwindling band IMHO, upgrade treadmill or just get an xbox?”

I think Steam/ Gabe would beg to differ.

Something like Skyrim, you get tseveral games in one, the one on release and then the many the mods create. Don’t get that on a console (yet).

“I really hope this doesn’t turn into an “is PC gaming dead?” discussion.”

Too late for that.

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Erg011:30 am 13 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Gaming on the desktop is for a dwindling band IMHO, upgrade treadmill or just get an xbox?

I really hope this doesn’t turn into an “is PC gaming dead?” discussion.

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Mothy11:21 am 13 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Gaming on the desktop is for a dwindling band IMHO, upgrade treadmill or just get an xbox?

What makes you think I don’t already have one of those too 🙂

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johnboy11:18 am 13 Feb 12

Mothy said :

Had the choice on Saturday – Scorptech or Computer Fair. Scorptech it was.

johnboy said :

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

Never tried playing Battlefield 3 then?

Gaming on the desktop is for a dwindling band IMHO, upgrade treadmill or just get an xbox?

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Mothy11:16 am 13 Feb 12

Had the choice on Saturday – Scorptech or Computer Fair. Scorptech it was.

johnboy said :

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

Never tried playing Battlefield 3 then?

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qbngeek11:12 am 13 Feb 12

The biggest reason I gave up on the computer fair is that most the stuff there is either outdated or will be soon. I build gaming rigs so most the time I am only interested in the newest shiniest fastest parts and the fair can’t provide them.

besides, when I buy2 video cards at $800 a pop, I want a warranty that is actually worth something.

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noma11:09 am 13 Feb 12

Eppo said :

There are better options now.

Canberra has an MSY, and places like pccasegear.com.au can have components shipped to you in less than 2 days. The fair prices aren’t bad, but if you need to RMA something, it can be pretty difficult when the store is only ‘open’ every few weeks.

+1 on MSY. Everything sold at Canberra computer fairs is a rip off

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Jivrashia10:48 am 13 Feb 12

Brocken Engrish? Oh well…

Not as bad as some eateries/restaurants where staff members are unable to communicate in English. (Usually some other staff member steps in almost immediately so it’s okay I guess).

As for Computer Fair/Markets, as above posters have already said, there are cheaper and more convenient alternative.

Personally the only reason I would go to the fair is to try to procure things that are old and no longer available, or very odd (currently looking for a Sony-Erricson charger with AU socket).

Hell, if they call themselves “Computer Junkyard” they might actually get more patronage.

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thatsnotme10:15 am 13 Feb 12

Eppo said :

There are better options now.

Canberra has an MSY, and places like pccasegear.com.au can have components shipped to you in less than 2 days. The fair prices aren’t bad, but if you need to RMA something, it can be pretty difficult when the store is only ‘open’ every few weeks.

This. Why would I drive out to EPIC (or wherever it happens to be), pay to get in, and rub shoulders with sweaty geeks to buy a part, when for the same price (or less) I can use an online store such as PCCaseGear, and have the parts delivered in a day or two. It also means that if I decide I want a part early in the week, there’s no need to wait around for the weekend to get it.

Add to that the fact that if anything goes wrong, I can easily contact the store I bought it from, rather than having to wait until whoever I bought it from at the Computer Fair is back in town, and it makes online purchasing hugely more appealing.

To top it off, I’ve got more choice at a decent online store, and don’t have to show up hoping that the part I’m after is actually being sold (which can be more of a deal with things like decent PC cases, and larger items that take up more space).

Can’t see that I’ll be heading back to the fair any time soon.

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Primal10:14 am 13 Feb 12

Much as I like wandering and buying whatever takes my fancy, you’d be mad not to do your homework and compare prices with the raft of online sellers that are around these days.

And so long as I have a gaming addiction, I am forever going to be caught in that endless upgrade cycle…

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Dilandach9:58 am 13 Feb 12

inglish?

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Dilandach9:51 am 13 Feb 12

I went to the computer fair a couple of months ago, it seemed somewhat less busy than in past times i’ve gone. Half as many stalls were there and half as many people.

Not many people bothering with the computer fair these days?

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Erg09:48 am 13 Feb 12

OverLord said :

johnboy said :

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

Or playing Skyrim.

+1,000,000

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housebound9:47 am 13 Feb 12

Apples have tended to dominate the publications sections, and no one argues with that. Haven’t seen too many in GIS sections, though.

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Eppo9:45 am 13 Feb 12

There are better options now.

Canberra has an MSY, and places like pccasegear.com.au can have components shipped to you in less than 2 days. The fair prices aren’t bad, but if you need to RMA something, it can be pretty difficult when the store is only ‘open’ every few weeks.

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Myles Peterson9:42 am 13 Feb 12

“…and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet…”

And pay you will. Apple is for the non-techies with lots of cash who don’t mind giving up all their privacy.

Met very few Apple users who even know what a UDID is.

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OverLord9:37 am 13 Feb 12

johnboy said :

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

Or playing Skyrim.

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johnboy9:31 am 13 Feb 12

Well let’s face it, an entry level phone these days is a more powerful platform than the computers we were building in the computer fair glory days.

what we’re paying for now is design and integration which slapping components into an ATX case before praying windows would recognise them had little to do with.

Realistically the grunt of a desktop is only needed for media creation, and if you’re doing that paying for an Apple is the winning bet.

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