Isaacs woman busted twice for drink driving in one night

rubaiyat said :

Tooks said :

Pork Hunt said :

Tooks said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

It’s really not difficult to understand. They have no legislative power to confiscate keys. End of story.

What about the legislative power to detain someone for their own protection and in cases like this, the protection of the public?

That relates to intoxication. Nowhere does it state she was intoxicated. To use I&P detention powers, a person would generally be blind drunk to the point they literally can’t protect themselves from harm (eg. stumbling out into traffic, passing out in the street etc). Remember, a breath analysis doesn’t tell you if a person is intoxicated. I’ve seen people blow well over what this lady blew and they appeared normal (normal speech, completely steady on feet, lucid etc).

And driving when told by the police not to.

Huh??

Tooks said :

Pork Hunt said :

Tooks said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

It’s really not difficult to understand. They have no legislative power to confiscate keys. End of story.

What about the legislative power to detain someone for their own protection and in cases like this, the protection of the public?

That relates to intoxication. Nowhere does it state she was intoxicated. To use I&P detention powers, a person would generally be blind drunk to the point they literally can’t protect themselves from harm (eg. stumbling out into traffic, passing out in the street etc). Remember, a breath analysis doesn’t tell you if a person is intoxicated. I’ve seen people blow well over what this lady blew and they appeared normal (normal speech, completely steady on feet, lucid etc).

And driving when told by the police not to.

Pork Hunt said :

Tooks said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

It’s really not difficult to understand. They have no legislative power to confiscate keys. End of story.

What about the legislative power to detain someone for their own protection and in cases like this, the protection of the public?

That relates to intoxication. Nowhere does it state she was intoxicated. To use I&P detention powers, a person would generally be blind drunk to the point they literally can’t protect themselves from harm (eg. stumbling out into traffic, passing out in the street etc). Remember, a breath analysis doesn’t tell you if a person is intoxicated. I’ve seen people blow well over what this lady blew and they appeared normal (normal speech, completely steady on feet, lucid etc).

Tooks said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

It’s really not difficult to understand. They have no legislative power to confiscate keys. End of story.

What about the legislative power to detain someone for their own protection and in cases like this, the protection of the public?

tim_c said :

Antagonist said :

Evilomlap said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

They use their judgement. On a Saturday night in the city they probably had better things to do than maintain surveillance on a middle aged lady to make sure she didn’t try to drive again, and in their defense the chances of anyone doing so ON THE SAME NIGHT after being busted are very low. Thankfully they got the moron the second time around. I’d say they deserve a thank you for that.

You would be surprised at how often morons do choose to drive again on the same night, and at how often people are caught. I know some of them. If the police had the resources available to them, the cops would bust a heap more people doing it too. Has anyone mentioned those morons who drive themselves home from court after having their licences suspended/cancelled yet?

Well who’d have thought? Obviously they have a blatant disregard for the law, which is why they get fined and/or suspended, so why would anyone expect them to suddenly stop disregarding the laws just because their licence is suspended?

At least with a keyboard you only have to punch the information in once. Some people, on the other hand …

Antagonist said :

Evilomlap said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

They use their judgement. On a Saturday night in the city they probably had better things to do than maintain surveillance on a middle aged lady to make sure she didn’t try to drive again, and in their defense the chances of anyone doing so ON THE SAME NIGHT after being busted are very low. Thankfully they got the moron the second time around. I’d say they deserve a thank you for that.

You would be surprised at how often morons do choose to drive again on the same night, and at how often people are caught. I know some of them. If the police had the resources available to them, the cops would bust a heap more people doing it too. Has anyone mentioned those morons who drive themselves home from court after having their licences suspended/cancelled yet?

Well who’d have thought? Obviously they have a blatant disregard for the law, which is why they get fined and/or suspended, so why would anyone expect them to suddenly stop disregarding the laws just because their licence is suspended?

rubaiyat said :

dungfungus said :

At least she stopped drinking between the first booking and the second.
That will get her points when she fronts up in Court.
I can hear the defence barrister now:
“Your Honour, my client made a personal pledge after the first offence to stop drinking and evidence before the Court proves that. I demand a lenient sentence”.

Thank God she wasn’t ¡Fare Evading!, and instead was driving around in a drunken stupor in the middle of the City!

I have no idea what you are alluding to as evading can’t be done on a “one entry/one exit” Action bus.
But it is very common on today’s “modern” trams that have all doors opening.

Evilomlap said :

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

They use their judgement. On a Saturday night in the city they probably had better things to do than maintain surveillance on a middle aged lady to make sure she didn’t try to drive again, and in their defense the chances of anyone doing so ON THE SAME NIGHT after being busted are very low. Thankfully they got the moron the second time around. I’d say they deserve a thank you for that.

You would be surprised at how often morons do choose to drive again on the same night, and at how often people are caught. I know some of them. If the police had the resources available to them, the cops would bust a heap more people doing it too. Has anyone mentioned those morons who drive themselves home from court after having their licences suspended/cancelled yet?

Sandman said :

I don’t understand why they let these people keep their keys when pulled over the first time. Their licence has been taken off them so they need someone else to drive the car home anyway. Surely that other person can pick up the keys from the nearest cop shop.

It’s really not difficult to understand. They have no legislative power to confiscate keys. End of story.

dungfungus said :

At least she stopped drinking between the first booking and the second.
That will get her points when she fronts up in Court.
I can hear the defence barrister now:
“Your Honour, my client made a personal pledge after the first offence to stop drinking and evidence before the Court proves that. I demand a lenient sentence”.

Thank God she wasn’t ¡Fare Evading!, and instead was driving around in a drunken stupor in the middle of the City!