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Job vacancy: Asylum seeker turnaround project

By John Hargreaves 15 June 2015 110

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JOB VACANCY – ASYLUM SEEKER TURNAROUND PROJECT

The Commonwealth Government is inviting expressions of interest for multiple positions in its Border Protection Force.

Job description

  • Identify boat load of asylum seekers by boat manifest or physical evidence
  • Advise to Royal Australian Navy and Customs vessels that applicant has the required number of asylum seekers
  • Advise to RAN and Customs that asylum seekers intention is to cross into Australian jurisdiction to achieve a landing on Australian soil to seek protection from persecution
  • Show evidence of sufficient fuel supplies to exit Australian waters
  • Show evidence of how much fuel is needed to achieve landfall in another receiving jurisdiction, in order that RAN and Customs can deliver sufficient fuel supplies or zodiacs to achieve that landfall
  • Command of English sufficient to engage in financial transaction
  • Upon finalisation of financial transaction, vessels should sail to any jurisdiction and not proceed any further to Australia

Qualifications

  • Ownership of vessel or evidence of rental of same, wooden and leaky option preferred
  • Captain’s qualifications obtained in any nation other than Australia
  • Previous experience in people smuggling, desirable
  • Demonstrated lack of empathy to plight of passengers and demonstrated ignorance of basic human rights
  • Ability to count, in Australian dollars, up to $50,000

References

References are not required. However, previous experience will be rewarded by additional payments if it can be established that regular deliveries can be arranged.

Additional information

This is an unconscionable position to take in people smuggling and applicants need to acknowledge that they are participating in a new dimension in people smuggling and transitioning.

Applicants need to be aware that they will attract the condemnation of the Australian public but the approval of the Prime Minister of Australia, and the Minister for Immigration (affectionately called the Minster for Preventing Immigration).

Payments made by RAN or Customs officials on behalf of the Australian Government will be Australian tax free but will be denied by Australian officials as they will be deemed to never have taken place.

Applicants may co-operate with Indonesian police on the condition that they freely deliver the fee negotiated at sea to that police force without any caveats. Receipts from the Indonesian police will not be recognised by the Australian government.

Applicants will be required to declare on the Koran, Bible or Hindu Holy Book that they know nothing, and attest that they abide by the principle of non-recollection.

Expressions of interest need to be forwarded by vessel at time on encounter with RAN or Customs vessels.

EOIs need not be in English but can be conveyed in Indonesian, Sri Lankan or any other Asian language, including sign language. Interpreters can be provided on request.

Applications can be submitted to the Captain of any RAN or Customs vessel at any time outside Australian waters.

Authorised by Mr P.M. Abbotoir, PH Canberra 2600

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dungfungus 12:21 pm 23 Jun 15

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Integrate into what? The Vietnamese in Cabramatta, The Greeks/Turks/Italians in Coburg and Brunswick, The Slavs in Perth, The South Americans in Footscray? Our society in Oz is multi coloured, multicultured, multi-racial, multi-religious and has been for most of the last century and into this one.

What you mean, I reckon is that the people (who you probably haven’t met) wont integrate into your little piece of all of this.

People in my immediate family (including me, the son of a pommy migrant) have married or have partners from every ethnic background you have named John so I don’t need you to lecture me as if you are the only one who has the authority on this issue.
I have met some people that I have referred to who won’t integrate and they have confirmed to me that they have no wish to do so no does their culture/religion/ideology permit them to.
The members of my family from diverse ethnic backgrounds have had exactly the same experiences.

Let’s not pussyfoot around. I know a number of Muslims that have integrated really well into our community. Where does that leave your proposition?

Being a “good neighbour” is not what I am talking about.

I’m a pommy boat person who came here aged 3 in 1952. I count among my friends Italians, Greeks, Turks, Vietnamese, Chinese, Mon, Lao, Philippino, Kiribati, Tongan, Samoan, Fijian, New Zealanders, French, American, English, Sudanese, Kenyan, Ghanaian, South African, Botswanan, Swedish, Chilean, Argentinian, Peruvian, Scottish, Irish, Dutch, German, Sri Lankan, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and of course native born Australian and (I differentiate deliberately) indigenous Australians.

I also count among my friends, Catholics, Anglicans, United Church people, Seventh Day Adventists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Mormons, Buddhists, Muslims, Atheists, Greek Orthodox, Jews and possibly others if I push my mind to recall them.

That is a lot of people who all “integrate” to make the place I call home welcoming and unique. I don’t impose my values on them and they don’t try to impose them on me, with the exception of the close minded short sighted Anglo Celts sons and daughters of those who invaded the place in the first place. Or those people who are borne of those from the Motherland.

John, you are lots of things but you are not a “boat person” in the context this thread is about.
And Australia wasn’t “invaded” by anyone.
Where do you get all these crazy ideas from?

John Hargreaves 12:10 pm 23 Jun 15

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Integrate into what? The Vietnamese in Cabramatta, The Greeks/Turks/Italians in Coburg and Brunswick, The Slavs in Perth, The South Americans in Footscray? Our society in Oz is multi coloured, multicultured, multi-racial, multi-religious and has been for most of the last century and into this one.

What you mean, I reckon is that the people (who you probably haven’t met) wont integrate into your little piece of all of this.

People in my immediate family (including me, the son of a pommy migrant) have married or have partners from every ethnic background you have named John so I don’t need you to lecture me as if you are the only one who has the authority on this issue.
I have met some people that I have referred to who won’t integrate and they have confirmed to me that they have no wish to do so no does their culture/religion/ideology permit them to.
The members of my family from diverse ethnic backgrounds have had exactly the same experiences.

Let’s not pussyfoot around. I know a number of Muslims that have integrated really well into our community. Where does that leave your proposition?

Being a “good neighbour” is not what I am talking about.

I’m a pommy boat person who came here aged 3 in 1952. I count among my friends Italians, Greeks, Turks, Vietnamese, Chinese, Mon, Lao, Philippino, Kiribati, Tongan, Samoan, Fijian, New Zealanders, French, American, English, Sudanese, Kenyan, Ghanaian, South African, Botswanan, Swedish, Chilean, Argentinian, Peruvian, Scottish, Irish, Dutch, German, Sri Lankan, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi and of course native born Australian and (I differentiate deliberately) indigenous Australians.

I also count among my friends, Catholics, Anglicans, United Church people, Seventh Day Adventists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Mormons, Buddhists, Muslims, Atheists, Greek Orthodox, Jews and possibly others if I push my mind to recall them.

That is a lot of people who all “integrate” to make the place I call home welcoming and unique. I don’t impose my values on them and they don’t try to impose them on me, with the exception of the close minded short sighted Anglo Celts sons and daughters of those who invaded the place in the first place. Or those people who are borne of those from the Motherland.

dungfungus 9:55 am 23 Jun 15

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Integrate into what? The Vietnamese in Cabramatta, The Greeks/Turks/Italians in Coburg and Brunswick, The Slavs in Perth, The South Americans in Footscray? Our society in Oz is multi coloured, multicultured, multi-racial, multi-religious and has been for most of the last century and into this one.

What you mean, I reckon is that the people (who you probably haven’t met) wont integrate into your little piece of all of this.

People in my immediate family (including me, the son of a pommy migrant) have married or have partners from every ethnic background you have named John so I don’t need you to lecture me as if you are the only one who has the authority on this issue.
I have met some people that I have referred to who won’t integrate and they have confirmed to me that they have no wish to do so no does their culture/religion/ideology permit them to.
The members of my family from diverse ethnic backgrounds have had exactly the same experiences.

Let’s not pussyfoot around. I know a number of Muslims that have integrated really well into our community. Where does that leave your proposition?

Being a “good neighbour” is not what I am talking about.

bryansworld 9:42 am 23 Jun 15

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Integrate into what? The Vietnamese in Cabramatta, The Greeks/Turks/Italians in Coburg and Brunswick, The Slavs in Perth, The South Americans in Footscray? Our society in Oz is multi coloured, multicultured, multi-racial, multi-religious and has been for most of the last century and into this one.

What you mean, I reckon is that the people (who you probably haven’t met) wont integrate into your little piece of all of this.

People in my immediate family (including me, the son of a pommy migrant) have married or have partners from every ethnic background you have named John so I don’t need you to lecture me as if you are the only one who has the authority on this issue.
I have met some people that I have referred to who won’t integrate and they have confirmed to me that they have no wish to do so no does their culture/religion/ideology permit them to.
The members of my family from diverse ethnic backgrounds have had exactly the same experiences.

Let’s not pussyfoot around. I know a number of Muslims that have integrated really well into our community. Where does that leave your proposition?

dungfungus 9:15 am 23 Jun 15

John Hargreaves said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Integrate into what? The Vietnamese in Cabramatta, The Greeks/Turks/Italians in Coburg and Brunswick, The Slavs in Perth, The South Americans in Footscray? Our society in Oz is multi coloured, multicultured, multi-racial, multi-religious and has been for most of the last century and into this one.

What you mean, I reckon is that the people (who you probably haven’t met) wont integrate into your little piece of all of this.

People in my immediate family (including me, the son of a pommy migrant) have married or have partners from every ethnic background you have named John so I don’t need you to lecture me as if you are the only one who has the authority on this issue.
I have met some people that I have referred to who won’t integrate and they have confirmed to me that they have no wish to do so no does their culture/religion/ideology permit them to.
The members of my family from diverse ethnic backgrounds have had exactly the same experiences.

dungfungus 10:43 pm 22 Jun 15

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Yes, I do and you can get it as well on the internet.

rubaiyat 8:02 pm 22 Jun 15

dungfungus said :

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

My family represents 5 different nationalities, I am guilty of 4. My sons, nieces and nephews have had no problems with “integrating” with whomever they meet. I grew up with as multi-cultural a group as you could imagine, and beyond the occassional good natured ribbing, the only ones who ever had a problem were the “Australians”, not that we weren’t also Australians, just that there was an attitude that we weren’t as much as them. The ten pound Poms had the biggest problem with it all.

The Anglo-American world cultural dominance leads to an inability often to even accept anything different as acceptable or even mildly interesting.

We had dinner with a 10 pound pom on Saturday and were surprised that despite being married to a non-European wife for a very long time, he doesn’t like anything outside meat and 3 veg. Dinner conversation also revealed an equal parochial ignorance on world, and even English, history.

Does it come from thinking your own culture is the norm and everybody else has got it wrong?

In January I met an American who has lived in Mexico City for almost 12 years. He bemoaned his fellow American community in Mexico, who refuse to learn any Spanish despite mostly being long term residents, and who hang out almost exclusively in their own American ghetto. The same with all the British retirees in Spain and Portugal.

Some can take what is on offer, we are so lucky in Australia in having so many different nationalities, and some can’t. The only sad thing is after a couple of generations the kids lose touch with what is best in their own cultures.

John Hargreaves 6:22 pm 22 Jun 15

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

Integrate into what? The Vietnamese in Cabramatta, The Greeks/Turks/Italians in Coburg and Brunswick, The Slavs in Perth, The South Americans in Footscray? Our society in Oz is multi coloured, multicultured, multi-racial, multi-religious and has been for most of the last century and into this one.

What you mean, I reckon is that the people (who you probably haven’t met) wont integrate into your little piece of all of this.

bryansworld 3:06 pm 22 Jun 15

dungfungus said :

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

“Most are takers and refuse to integrate” – this is a big call. Do you have any evidence for this claim?

dungfungus 3:28 pm 21 Jun 15

John Hargreaves said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

dungfungus said :

bryansworld said :

MERC600 said :

Interesting that some of these seekers were from Sri Lanka. You would think that if things are so crook in Lanka you need to seek asylum , you would make a beeline for the nearest joint you could find. And thats India.
India is just 41 kms away. You can catch a ferry.

This link, which is a bit dated, addresses your question. Some of the response is still relevant,

http://www.amnesty.org.au/refugees/comments/22280/

The link is a bit dated as you suggest however as Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by a Tamil suicide bomber can you blame India for not being welcoming to other Tamils, whatever their circumstances?

I’d blame them. It’s not very nice to judge people on the basis of their ethnicity. Not every Tamil is a suicide bomber, or they weren’t the last time I checked.

Do you really want Australia to take a risk in re-settling these people?
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1193862,00.html

No, I want them rigorously assessed, and a decision made on that basis. I don’t want a policy that writes off a whole ethnic group on the basis of the behaviour of a small of group of individuals. Guess what? That’s racist.

That’s a big call considering the number of people involved are not “small” but of course, this is how the system is abused.
The process of “rigorous assessment” is also abused as identity documents a deliberately destroyed to frustrate the process.
How often do we hear the same excuse from the Muslim leaders?
They say “it is only 1% of us that are jihadists”. That 1% equates globally to about 1,000,000.
I am not about racism – let’s get that straight. I also do not want to go in fear to shopping malls and public places in Australia.

Are you advocating an asylum or immigration policy based on race or religion?

I am saying all immigration should cease and that includes refugees.

Just as well you weren’t in charge when I came to Australia or when Tony Abbott came to Australia, or when the guys who built the Snowy all came here, etc etc. This place was built by people who came here and had their kids here – you are supposedly one of those – and the difference now is?

The difference is that we needed them then as they were willing to contribute and become culturally Australian.
Very few today are “in the same boat”. Most are takers and refuse to integrate. That puts a lot of pressure on everyone else.

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