Katy calls for junk food ad ban

GnT 13 December 2007 92

The ACT government has joined the call to ban “junk food” advertising to children, in a bid to curb the “major endemic problems of overweight and obesity”.

I have two problems with this. First of all, define “junk food”. There are many borderline foods which are nutritious in moderation. Who is going to decide which foods fit the “junk” category, and on what criteria? Secondly, where do parents’ responsibilities lie? Surely offereing a free toy with a food purchase is a legitimate promotion, and it’s up to parents to say “no” to the foods they don’t want their child consuming.

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johnboy johnboy 8:17 pm 20 Dec 07

Good food is whatever I approve of.

Junk is food I disaprove of.

Let’s face it, you can spend four hours making a hamburger that is both healthy and a work of culinary beauty.

On the other hand you can get a caesar salad that will clog your arteries just to look at it.

Food defies simple classifications.

If you want to ban food advertising in children’s TV hours I’d be OK with that.

Mælinar Mælinar 8:01 pm 20 Dec 07

Apologies for the frankness. A diet high in meat means your poo hole is processing chunkier poo. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to work out that when comparing somebodys poo hole that has processed golf balls to tennis balls, the poo hole that has been pushing out tennis balls is more likely to get cancers etc.

That said, a diet high in the appropriate fruits will completely screw your research, so try another angle.

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 5:20 pm 20 Dec 07

No idea, go ask Katy Gallagher what she means. We’re just a bunch of people with internet connections.

GnT GnT 5:15 pm 20 Dec 07

Okay, so we’ve established there is credible research showing a diet high in red meat and processed meats increases your risk of cancer. (There’s also this credible research showing a high protein moderate cabohydrate diet can help you lose weight and therefore reduce your risk of diabetes and heart disease, but anyway.)

What does this have to do with Chicken McNuggets?

And how does this get us any closer to a definition of “junk food”?

Mr Evil Mr Evil 4:45 pm 20 Dec 07

I feel so cheated now. If Sam Neil is a liar, then who is left to trust in this evil and heartless corporate world?

Katy Gallagher?

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 4:41 pm 20 Dec 07

He also said that it was possible to bring back dinosaurs by filling them with frog DNA.

Its entirely possible, if not likely, that he was paid to lie.

Mr Evil Mr Evil 4:31 pm 20 Dec 07

Sepi, are you saying that Sam Neil’s a liar?

Sam would never lie: if he says red meat is okay, then goddamn it, red meat IS okay! 🙂

sepi sepi 4:15 pm 20 Dec 07


i found one.

Probably the most surprising finding was that red meat and processed meat were convincingly linked to colorectal cancer. On average, if you eat large amounts of red or processed meat you have about a 30 per cent increased risk of colorectal cancer compared with someone who eats little or none. And the more meat you eat, the greater the risk. On average you shouldn’t eat more than 300 grams of red meat a week. But Australian men eat more than 700 grams of red and processed meat a week, and Australian women almost 500 grams.

sepi sepi 4:12 pm 20 Dec 07

I get most of my research from newspapers. And now they make you pay to search the archives, which makes citing a bit harder.

justbands justbands 3:03 pm 20 Dec 07



& here…


& here…


& if I still had access to my ex-employers medical databases, I could link up hundreds of studies showing the link.

Cited. 🙂

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 2:40 pm 20 Dec 07

My research has found that 35% of all uncited research is absolute bollocks, with a further 15-25% being misrepresented.

Thumper Thumper 2:35 pm 20 Dec 07

Researchers have found that being born leads to dying.

sepi sepi 2:06 pm 20 Dec 07

Research has found that processed meats contribute to cancer…but anyway.

Mælinar Mælinar 1:42 pm 20 Dec 07

I consider bread and corn to be on the list of ‘healthy’ products – just saying is all…

GnT disclaimed – in moderation. Eat sufficient amounts of anything* and you’ll turn into something.

** Disclaimer **
Except tofu, tofu was created by the Devil for a specific purpose.

justbands justbands 12:44 pm 20 Dec 07

Haha…& you’ve come up with an equal amount of credible evidence GnT. Do 5 minutes of research & you’ll find what’s contained in McNuggets…I reckon the only place you’ll find that claims they are actually healthy will be Maccas themselves. If the internet as a whole doesn’t convince you then talk to a nutritionist, naturapath or even your GP. In the end…you can choose to eat them/feed them to your kids, I’ll choose not to…easy! I bet I know who’ll be healthier.

GnT GnT 12:31 pm 20 Dec 07

Chicken McNuggets contain “quality chicken breast meat (the best bits) from Ingham and Steggles”.

Sure, this information comes from McDonalds themselves, but I’m not a conspiracy theorist. Where’s your information from?

I still don’t know what your definition of “unhealthy” is. Is it the amount of processing? Is it how much bread and corn it contains? Is it the amount of preservatives?

So far the only evidence you’ve come up with is “They’re just not”.

justbands justbands 10:08 am 20 Dec 07

> Healthy? – yeah, in moderation

Sure….it won’t actually kill you (in a hurry) if you eat the odd McNugget, but it’s not “healthy”..not even at a stretch.

Calling them “chicken” for a start, is an overstatement. Yes, there’s chicken in them…..but there’s a hell of a lot of fillers, fats, bread & corn in there too. They’re heavily processed, full of preservatives & fat & really, not much else.

Eat them..sure. But don’t try & call them healthy. They’re just not.

GnT GnT 4:10 pm 19 Dec 07

Exactly. My problem is with your definition, or lack thereof.

Chicken nuggets are an excellent source of essential nutrients such as protein and vitamin B. Frying in vegetable oil limits the amount of saturated fat. Served with some fruit and dairy provides a balanced meal. Healthy? – yeah, in moderation.

justbands justbands 3:36 pm 19 Dec 07

You’ve totally confused me with that question Maelinar.

Mælinar Mælinar 3:14 pm 19 Dec 07

But justbands, you think it is reasonable that non smokes and beer companies have a marketing bonus during the childrens timeslot by the forced absence of a legitimate competitor. Or are you taking back what you said at 1:21pm ?

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