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Majura Parkway planning fail

By johnboy 6 June 2013 30

Brendan Smyth is having some fun with Simon Corbell’s planning efforts with the Majura Parkway:

It was revealed that Simon Corbell as Planning Minister was asked by businesses at the Majura Park Shopping Precinct to provide on and off access from the Majura Parkway to the northern end of the Majura Park Shopping Precinct. He declined, so this access is not in the currently approved plans for Majura Parkway, nor is it budgeted for.

“That means that even before a single square meter of road has been laid the Government has had to modify its plans and devote additional funds to make up for

Simon Corbell’s failure. This is so typical of so many of the ACT Government’s capital works projects,” Mr Smyth said.

“Not to plan for northern access to the precinct is a complete disregard for proper planning processes, and a complete disregard for the viability of those businesses and the Canberrans they employ.

“Andrew Barr has now had to step in to make up for Simon Corbell’s shortfalls as the Planning Minister.

So remember folks, when Liberals talk about family values, they mean the Snow family’s values.

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Sandman 8:10 pm 07 Jun 13

Why should the CAG be expected to chip in for a northern access road? It’s not like Terry Snow is planning a mega transport hub that would greatly benefit from this road that’s capable of taking the new B-Triples with perfect access to both Sydney and Melbourne………..

Um, wait…….. Never mind, forget I said anything.

howeph 5:30 pm 07 Jun 13

bikhet said :

I agree that the competition is unfair, but there is a difference between unfair competition and theft. I don’t condone either or them, but one is illegal and the other is “only” unethical. Refer to the discussion elsewhere of Apple, Google, etc “not paying their fair share of taxes.”

Ok, maybe the use of the word “stole” is too harsh, but I’m not convinced. Certainly I am not implying that the law was broken, only that loop-holes in the law were exploited.

‘Stole’ doesn’t necessarily mean to break the law. It can mean “to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, subtly, or by chance” e.g. He stole my girlfriend.
[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stole]

JC 5:29 pm 07 Jun 13

HiddenDragon said :

I hope the ACT Government got some worthwhile revenue out of the Fyshwick DFO – at the time, I thought the decision to go ahead with that one was a mixture of wishful thinking and wilful, “we’ll show you” smartarsery.

The ACT government did make a lot out of DFO. Remember Mr Snow himself was bidding for the same land. The price paid in the end was about double what it should have been.

After he lost that’s when he decided to build Brand Depot (as a spoiler) but feel in the poop because most of the big names had already signed with DFO. He also put in legal objections to the DFO development further spoiling the party, despite of course him wanting the same land to do the SAME development.

And people wonder why the Snow family is disliked so much.

JC 5:24 pm 07 Jun 13

Mothy said :

This. At first I was like “there’s no off ramp?” But no, it’s just nothing at the “Northern End”.

Cry more noobs.

Actually there is. Near the AFP facility.

JC 5:21 pm 07 Jun 13

Sounds like another beat up from the Libs. Majura road as it is today will still go past Majura park. To get off the Majura parkway if coming from the south you exit at Fairbairn Ave by crossing Fairbarin Ave on a bridge then a left turn onto Fairbairn Ave. If coming from the North there will be an exit about halfway along the parkway at Tambaret Sreet or continue on down, go slightly past then double back.

So not exactly sure what Mr Smyth really wants in this case. What they are doing is logical, Majura Parkway is a bloody freeway, Majura Road is the feeder road. There are exits where they should be and people get happily get to Snowtown. In fact it should be easier as there will be only local traffic on Majura road.

Here is the map.

http://www.majuraparkway.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/229612/Majura_Parkway_Alignment.pdf

JC 5:11 pm 07 Jun 13

neanderthalsis said :

So Westfield has paid for the road infrastructure that feeds punters into their centres? How about the bus interchange at Belconnen, did Westfield pay for that too? Or the local strip shops pay for the roads and car parks that enable the general public to buy a loaf of bread and a bottle of milk on their way home form work?

Forget about Belconnen because that was in the past when the shopping centre was owned by the federal government.

Instead lets look at a hypothetical new development. The new development would be built in a location of the governments choosing (which wasn’t the case with Majura Park). The development would factor in roads public transport etc and part of the costs of providing these services would be meet by through the land sales, again which didn’t happen with Majura park. So in essence the answer to your question is yes.

But getting back to Belconnen for a second, when it was recently redeveloped Westfield did actually pay for the bus station!

bikhet 5:02 pm 07 Jun 13

howeph said :

Hi Bikhet,

I think that this is your comment directed at me, but the quoting has gotten a bit mixed up , so I have tried to fix it to make sense:

bikhet said :

howeph said :

And don’t forget the airport business park stole rentals and investment from the existing business rental areas such as Civic…

No it didn’t – it out-competed Civic and the rest of the ACT for those businesses in the business park.

But don’t you see that by being a unregulated development the business park had/has an unfair advantage, operating outside of the control of the ACT planning department that their competitors must comply with.

To be specific the ACT government controls/restricts the release of land for development to ensure that the value of the existing areas doesn’t go down and ensuring continual levels of investment in those areas. In this way the Government tries to avoid the “ghetto” areas that appear in many poorly regulated cities. The airport, because of quirks in the legal zoning of it, is outside of this regulation system and this was capitalised on by Mr Snow to the detriment of the larger community (in particular his competitors).

Yes, that’s what I meant – sorry for stuffing up the quotes.

I agree that the competition is unfair, but there is a difference between unfair competition and theft. I don’t condone either or them, but one is illegal and the other is “only” unethical. Refer to the discussion elsewhere of Apple, Google, etc “not paying their fair share of taxes.”

Madam Cholet 3:52 pm 07 Jun 13

EvanJames said :

HiddenDragon said :

Love neanderthalsis’ comment about the Costco customers with the trailer-load of toilet paper – so true!

I’m the only CostCo member on the face of the earth never to have bought toilet paper from them, they keep threatening to rescind my membership if I don’t comply and buy some ply. They even have trolleys designed with a special toilet paper shelf (the one underneath).

As for who’s badgering the government, it’s not the shops, it’s their benevolent overlord.

I have never bought any there for myself or my family, but I have had to do so for my mother in law who seems to get through reams of it (in Sydney). The other Costco item that people buy in large quantities is mince meat – 10 kilo packs. They must have the 101 things to do with mince meat cookbook at home. Maybe given out by the government pre-1985 or something?

howeph 3:03 pm 07 Jun 13

Hi Bikhet,

I think that this is your comment directed at me, but the quoting has gotten a bit mixed up , so I have tried to fix it to make sense:

bikhet said :

howeph said :

And don’t forget the airport business park stole rentals and investment from the existing business rental areas such as Civic…

No it didn’t – it out-competed Civic and the rest of the ACT for those businesses in the business park.

But don’t you see that by being a unregulated development the business park had/has an unfair advantage, operating outside of the control of the ACT planning department that their competitors must comply with.

To be specific the ACT government controls/restricts the release of land for development to ensure that the value of the existing areas doesn’t go down and ensuring continual levels of investment in those areas. In this way the Government tries to avoid the “ghetto” areas that appear in many poorly regulated cities. The airport, because of quirks in the legal zoning of it, is outside of this regulation system and this was capitalised on by Mr Snow to the detriment of the larger community (in particular his competitors).

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