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Marist College a den of paedophilia?

By johnboy 11 July 2009 64

The Canberra Times has been crunching the numbers on all the sex abuse cases coming out of Canberra’s Marist College and are now speculating as to whether it represents a “paedophile ring”.

    Canberra Times investigation has found that five known child molesters, four of whom were convicted of child sex offences after leaving the school, taught at the school between 1976 and 1992.

    A further seven former staff members are the subject of civil allegations of child sex abuse.

And just for the record, the convicted teachers are: Kostka Chute, Gregory Sutton, Gregory Carter, and Peter Spratt.

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Chicka 8:28 am 09 Oct 09

I have discovered this thread late but have to comment (although normally I wouldn’t). I attended Marist Pearce from 1977 until 1983. From the youngest age the students were aware of the sexual abuse that happened there but were too ashamed or traumatised to mention it to anyone else. The fact that the children understood the problem all too well and the abuse continued for such a long time before the tragic suicides of a number of abused former pupils brought the whole squalid institution into the harsh light of judicial scrutiny, is testament to the strength of the taboo surrounding this subject.

If the children well understood the nature of the abuse, the men who lived side by side with the men who perpetrated the abuse and the lay teachers who worked so closely alongside them absolutely did. To the extent that, in the best case scenario, they closed their eyes to it, they are as culpable as if they had have directly participated. I know that the number of people prosecuted for crimes against children at marist Pearce in no way reflects the number of persons who participated in the abuse.

In many ways one of the most disturbing aspects of this is the willingness of apologists for paedophilia to defend the institution by claiming that it was a “small minority” or one or two bad eggs. Fact is everyone who worked or was educated there knew of the abuse and chose to ignore it. For the record, the school was atrocious. Very low educational standards dished out by the mentally challenged. Often the teachers at marist had no formal educational qualifications. At the very best students received a poor education, at the very worst – well we know the very worst. To read people on this site saying that they would send their children to this disgusting institution after all that has happened and as the institution is trying to screw its victims out of just compensation by arguing that they owed their underage charges no duty of care beggars belief. That it happened at all is bad enough. That current management would treat the victims in this manner is outrageous and disgusting. The people who apologise for these people in this and other fora should take a good look at themselves.

Benji1966 1:03 pm 14 Sep 09

Okay, so this is my last rant here at Riot act. I went to St. Edmund’s from 1978 to 1980. There were words spoken about teachers who were queer and letting it all hang out at the Kambah swimming area next to the river, a teacher who flashed a student, and a ped. But I never encountered anything. You have to remember, that catholics are the BAD guys. We never did the right thing. We were using porn at around 13 years old. It was the late Seventies, before aids and the religious right movement of the 80’s. Porn was sold on the schoolground. So if some old fellar got a bit horny around hot young bods, then that’s just the way it was. And so it is in the past… They WERE better days!
Antichrist benji

BerraBoy68 10:41 am 09 Aug 09

Anna Key said :

From the article

There have been police investigations and prosecutions, and we remain determined to leave no stone unturned to reach out and assist any current or former student who has been adversely affected

Unless if course it goes to court then we will deny liability and hush it up as quickly as possible. May the Lord be with you (and may the courts be with us)

The criminal investigation at Marist to date only looked at Kostka and there a whole bunch of questions left unanswered. For example, the school promised a full investigation when the article first appeared in the paper some 18 months ago. A few related questions now are: Where are the findings of this investigation? What was the process? Who was questioned and by whom? Was it an independent inquiry? and more importantly, Was this inquiry ever launched? All this, though, is secondary to asking why the church is allowed to run internal investigations at all, after all they’ve done such a stirling job in the past. Make no mistake, no detailed investigation has been made into Marist having several pedophiles working at the school at the same time. Spending a few weeks sporadically asking those with a vested interest in keeping this situation quite if they knew about over a coffee isn’t an investigation!

There are also a few old ‘n bold police in the ACT that were around in the 70’s though 90’s who say they knew of claims of sexual abuse of students at the school way back then but they could do nothing as no formal complaint had been made. Luckily for kids these days things have changes somewhat. Not so lucky, though, for the victims of Marist and Dara and the other ACT catholic schools in the past (we have had ex-students come to us from other catholic schools is the ACT claiming abuse at the hands of priests and Brother).

The really sad part is that the catholic church had a great chance here to wipe the slate clean in the ACT once and for all, and this is slowly but surely slipping away from them. All they had to do is let the matter go to court, face the consequences and move on. They talk about protecting current and future students from ridicule and teasing etc. from other kids but how can they argue this when their own action prevent these wounds being healed publically. Without this transparency there won’t ever be closure and the schools future and current student will, unfortunately, continue to be at risk.

The key question is what are the Marists and the Catholic Church so afraid of that they fight so hard to avoid the courts? If they were as clean as they claim to be you’d think they’d welcome the chance to be found as such in court. Their problem is that if it goes to court, their financial liability to the victims will likely be significantly higher than if they can make the victims feel desperate enough for closure and settle the matter out of court, either through Jason Parkinson or the very dubious and incredibly one sided ‘Towards Healing’ process.

Make no mistake about where we are in this process, though. Victims being paid out behind closed doors and without the schools/Orders accepting responsibility makes no difference to the fight for justice for the victims. There are still victims out there too damages to seek help and we can keep this going for years, if we need to to help these guys. Also,the issue of ex-student suicides is also shortly to be addressed as we believe these guys also deserve recognition for their pain and suffering. I have been advised that on average, for every victim of sexual abuse that comes forward there are at least 5 that remain silent. Do the math and you can feel confident we’re only at the top of a very nasty and very scary ice-burg here in the ACT.

Anna Key 11:23 pm 08 Aug 09

From the article

There have been police investigations and prosecutions, and we remain determined to leave no stone unturned to reach out and assist any current or former student who has been adversely affected

Unless if course it goes to court then we will deny liability and hush it up as quickly as possible. May the Lord be with you (and may the courts be with us)

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