NBN coming to Civic

Mothy said :

Al,

I appreciate your enthusiasm and campaigning for Gungahlin’s internet, but your faith in what they tell you is a little too strong.

Construction commencing within a year is not the same as connections done. Commencing within a year can still be rolled back within an electoral cycle.

Some areas of Gungahlin have only had ropes pulled, no fibre. Some work is quick, other work is slow – take a drive along Wellesley Street in Amaroo (in particular, number 44 or 46 – driveway), or Wanganeen in Ngunnawal, particularly near the primary school. Pit works all over the shop. Yes, due to Telstra under build in the first place. But still a delay. A pre-fibre delay.

On Standard of work – see this post from Whirlpool and watch as the contractors that connect up homes (some, NOT ALL) will make it all too easy for the Opposition to point the finger at what could easily be portrayed as, if not become, another “pink batts” style scandal of people doing things on the cheap while billing the Govt.

I pray you are right on the work being committed before Abbott and Co torpedo it back to a FTTN network. In the interim, I desperately hope for the removal of obstacles to my connection, the speeding up of works in my suburb, and the removal of distractions and theatre like starting a rollout in more densely populated areas that are already served by ADSL2+ so they can claim success on a “construction completed or commenced” basis.

Understand what you are saying, and many are justifably concerned about the potential damage of an Abbott govt to NBN as a national scheme, which is far more important than a patchwork upgrade.

The key words from my previous post though were “may have work committed” – meaning contracts signed and locked in, even if the work is yet to come. Although I’m not certain, I would have thought that the timetable NBN Co have published indicates just that? If so, then that would be good for a big chunk of the north side. West Belco and the southside would still be sweating on the election outcome though…

Gungahlin Al said :

If you look beyond maps, NBN Co is stating that Queanbeyan, all of the inner north, and through Acton to Belconnen are all down for construction to commence within one year:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/rollout/about-the-rollout/communities-in-the-rollout.html#act

All of our streets here have been cabled, so the household connections won’t be far off. There are teams working 7 days a week all over Gungahlin. They move in, get a task done, and get out, often within a day or two, and with very little sign of their work left behind. Contrast that to what we are so used to from ACT Government infrastructure works, with unfinished stuff left lying around for weeks or months, and pig sties left before for residents or no-one to clean up.

Sure we are yet to see how low impact the to-the-house installations will be, but I’m liking the standard of work to date as a track record.

There were many doubters when we relayed the NBN promise that once they got Gungahlin done, they’d roll on right through the rest of Canberra, but already it’s happening…

And at the rate they are going, there’s a good chance that all of Canberra not already on cable may have work committed before Tony Abbott et al have a chance to pull the rug out…

Al,

I appreciate your enthusiasm and campaigning for Gungahlin’s internet, but your faith in what they tell you is a little too strong.

Construction commencing within a year is not the same as connections done. Commencing within a year can still be rolled back within an electoral cycle.

Some areas of Gungahlin have only had ropes pulled, no fibre. Some work is quick, other work is slow – take a drive along Wellesley Street in Amaroo (in particular, number 44 or 46 – driveway), or Wanganeen in Ngunnawal, particularly near the primary school. Pit works all over the shop. Yes, due to Telstra under build in the first place. But still a delay. A pre-fibre delay.

On Standard of work – see this post from Whirlpool and watch as the contractors that connect up homes (some, NOT ALL) will make it all too easy for the Opposition to point the finger at what could easily be portrayed as, if not become, another “pink batts” style scandal of people doing things on the cheap while billing the Govt.

I pray you are right on the work being committed before Abbott and Co torpedo it back to a FTTN network. In the interim, I desperately hope for the removal of obstacles to my connection, the speeding up of works in my suburb, and the removal of distractions and theatre like starting a rollout in more densely populated areas that are already served by ADSL2+ so they can claim success on a “construction completed or commenced” basis.

Nothing surer that when the Orcs get in at the end of the year that along with the mass public servant sackings they’ll pull the NBN to fund their own election promises.

At least we’ll have reliable fast internet, pity about the rest of the country

yoyo23 said :

What I hate is that I got consistently 7Mb out of ADSL in the centre of Gungahlin (after many many years of crap speeds), moved to Turner and now get 1Mb out of ADSL 2+ at 8pm every night (up to 13Mb at other times, and yes, I have logged a service ticket). Then this comes out and I have to move 50 metres to get it!!!! One day… One day I’ll get good Internet and I’ll be happy to pay for it.

And I imagine the weird shape of the design plan is to accommodate existing infrastructure. You can’t see the cable work under the roads, so you might just have to trust that these people know what they are doing.

I wonder if any Government housing tenants are interested in setting up a massive microwave link and becoming an ISP 😉

Read my post #10. Moving not required.

What I hate is that I got consistently 7Mb out of ADSL in the centre of Gungahlin (after many many years of crap speeds), moved to Turner and now get 1Mb out of ADSL 2+ at 8pm every night (up to 13Mb at other times, and yes, I have logged a service ticket). Then this comes out and I have to move 50 metres to get it!!!! One day… One day I’ll get good Internet and I’ll be happy to pay for it.

And I imagine the weird shape of the design plan is to accommodate existing infrastructure. You can’t see the cable work under the roads, so you might just have to trust that these people know what they are doing.

I wonder if any Government housing tenants are interested in setting up a massive microwave link and becoming an ISP 😉

Keijidosha said :

Mothy said :

That is the oddest design plan.

Indeed. Odd that the rollout excludes a quarter of the ANU (and CSIRO, which would already have superior internet tubes).

A quarter? I wouldn’t trust that map. It shows a green belts where there’s now Unilodges and ANU Exchange.

Also you’ve got to remember that ANU is cabled up with a LAN, ANU Secure and EduRoam which in turn plug into AARNet, a dedicated internet service provider with their own local and international backhaul. I’m not sure how quick ANU would be to get connected at all given that.

Gungahlin Al said :

If you look beyond maps, NBN Co is stating that Queanbeyan, all of the inner north, and through Acton to Belconnen are all down for construction to commence within one year:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/rollout/about-the-rollout/communities-in-the-rollout.html#act

All of our streets here have been cabled, so the household connections won’t be far off. There are teams working 7 days a week all over Gungahlin. They move in, get a task done, and get out, often within a day or two, and with very little sign of their work left behind. Contrast that to what we are so used to from ACT Government infrastructure works, with unfinished stuff left lying around for weeks or months, and pig sties left before for residents or no-one to clean up.

Sure we are yet to see how low impact the to-the-house installations will be, but I’m liking the standard of work to date as a track record.

There were many doubters when we relayed the NBN promise that once they got Gungahlin done, they’d roll on right through the rest of Canberra, but already it’s happening.

And at the rate they are going, there’s a good chance that all of Canberra not already on cable may have work committed before Tony Abbott et al have a chance to pull the rug out.

Yet still there are people like Gooterz and Masquara are quick to toss around the doubt. Sure there were some early delays – due to 1/ Telstra delaying the handover decision and 2/ the sorry state of the underground Telstra infrastructure (they started letting everything go once the NBN was announced, so hardly surprising but typical of Telstra and disappointing nonetheless).

It’s the biggest infrastructure project in Australia’s history, and with much of the actual work that would be required hidden away underground. There were bound to be some stumbles along the way, and anyone who says it should have been otherwise is either deluded or deliberately spinning.

Sorry I must be one of the lucky ones that live in the south. Waiting 3 years for work to ‘start’.
Won’t be long before the prices catch up

WOW. Government releases Media Release that says there is a map made by NBN Co. that shows that sometime after the next election construction will start on the NBN in Civic.

gooterz said :

MrPC said :

Alright! NBN at Floriade! This should be interesting…

Nbn at captain cook jet is more interesting

Maybe it’s to stop having problems with the value.

Great to see they have included the Northbourne flats in the civic roll out

The most area here are for education and business. It’s kinda interesting why ANU is desperate for NBN as I assume they have great internet

Mothy said :

That is the oddest design plan. No NBN for you on the West side of Northbourne between Barry Drive and Haig Park.

But oh look, the new Northbourne flats will get the NBN, how nice, that ought to help sales along.

Mothy: NBN Co reps have told us several times at GCC meetings that it all comes down to the engineering requirements of the gear they are working with in the exchanges. How it looks on a map doesn’t enter their consideration. And see my previous comment about all of North Canberra following on its heels, making it a moot point anyway…

If you look beyond maps, NBN Co is stating that Queanbeyan, all of the inner north, and through Acton to Belconnen are all down for construction to commence within one year:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/rollout/about-the-rollout/communities-in-the-rollout.html#act

All of our streets here have been cabled, so the household connections won’t be far off. There are teams working 7 days a week all over Gungahlin. They move in, get a task done, and get out, often within a day or two, and with very little sign of their work left behind. Contrast that to what we are so used to from ACT Government infrastructure works, with unfinished stuff left lying around for weeks or months, and pig sties left before for residents or no-one to clean up.

Sure we are yet to see how low impact the to-the-house installations will be, but I’m liking the standard of work to date as a track record.

There were many doubters when we relayed the NBN promise that once they got Gungahlin done, they’d roll on right through the rest of Canberra, but already it’s happening.

And at the rate they are going, there’s a good chance that all of Canberra not already on cable may have work committed before Tony Abbott et al have a chance to pull the rug out.

Yet still there are people like Gooterz and Masquara are quick to toss around the doubt. Sure there were some early delays – due to 1/ Telstra delaying the handover decision and 2/ the sorry state of the underground Telstra infrastructure (they started letting everything go once the NBN was announced, so hardly surprising but typical of Telstra and disappointing nonetheless).

It’s the biggest infrastructure project in Australia’s history, and with much of the actual work that would be required hidden away underground. There were bound to be some stumbles along the way, and anyone who says it should have been otherwise is either deluded or deliberately spinning.

MrPC said :

Alright! NBN at Floriade! This should be interesting…

Nbn at captain cook jet is more interesting

Alright! NBN at Floriade! This should be interesting…

How does this “about twelve months” fit with the NBN promises?

Is this actual update, or is this the fads that is the NBN schedule? No numbers were released for last quarter to say how many active connections. People have started to FOI request the numbers and NBN is saying it will take 2 months to work it out.

NBN is a national GDE, expect massive delays and massive budget blowout.

Most of Canberra will be last to get the NBN anyway because all the poles are out the back, NBNco has to get entry to property to run the cable. Rest of the country its running along the front of the street.

Those apartments in Watson have been told to expect NBN in march or a few months later

And still no connection at all for 12 units in Watson. http://the-riotact.com/nbn-woes-for-watson-residents/93171

OK, I can understand new developements there getting NBN. Every one of them from today onwards should. Every new development anywhere suburban should.

However, everything else on that map? Civic has all got ADSL2+ from Civic exchange on short lines so at high sync rates. There’s probably TransACT VDSL2 available in some of the area as well. Then there’s Telstra 4G and whatnot.. The area is well served.

Any residence on a non-tophatted RIM should get NBN before Civic.

Mothy said :

That is the oddest design plan.

Indeed. Odd that the rollout excludes a quarter of the ANU (and CSIRO, which would already have superior internet tubes).

I did spot the inclusion of Currong Apartments, which hopefully means that they must be slated for immanent rubble conversion.

So how does it work getting a connection into all the apartments in the New Acton area?

That is the oddest design plan. No NBN for you on the West side of Northbourne between Barry Drive and Haig Park.

But oh look, the new Northbourne flats will get the NBN, how nice, that ought to help sales along.