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Never to see the office again – AFP get in-car computers

By johnboy 29 July 2009 61

The ABC brings word that ACT Policing is installing networked computers in its patrol cars.

    ACT Police Minister Simon Corbell says the computers will mean more police on the road, more often.

    “It means less time back at the station, it means less time dealing with paperwork at the end of the the shift, and instead being able to do more of it on the road while the police are working with the community tackling jobs,” he said.

Let’s hope they still manage to meet the basic human desires to interact with colleagues. A lot of so called inefficiencies often turn out to be important safety valves.


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mutley 11:22 am 30 Jul 09

I am quite partial to a Krispy Kreme, but there is nothing in the whole world like a cinnamon donut!

Nope, jam doughnuts FTW. Not sure how they’d go in the mooted in-car holders though. I was envisaging some sort of spike.

peterh 10:48 am 30 Jul 09

perhaps the afp will look at using voice recognition for lookups whilst moving. a speaker based readback system overcomes the need to look at the screen. just a simple idea to keep a mobile unit mobile, especially when there is only one occupant in the car.

and caf, I agree. not the place to discuss this at all.

caf 10:41 am 30 Jul 09

peterh, this really isn’t the place to go into it, but “2DES” is a nonsense. Double-encryption is vulnerable to a meet-in-the-middle attack which makes it only fractionally more secure than single encryption. To get an improvement you have to go straight to encrypting three times – hence 3DES.

Skidbladnir 9:59 am 30 Jul 09

I think this is a good thing so long as there’s read audit logging on records, and this isn’t going to be used as a “They have a computer, any paperwork that can be done at a station can be done in the car.” justification.

peterh 9:38 am 30 Jul 09

caf said :

eyeLikeCarrots: That tells you how much a certain salesman knows about crypto.

if you are referring to me, I know a bit.

2DES and 3DES are not dead, they are used in a whole raft of devices and environs. Just because the dept you work in isn’t using them doesn’t mean they aren’t in use.

AES is the new standard. If you want any info on the new standards, go to: http://www.truecrypt.org/ this is a collaboration to create a free encryption system for storage.

bergamot 9:20 am 30 Jul 09

a couple of days ago you were all sooking and whinging that police cars should be trackable, have gps etc, and now that it is happening, that isn’t good enough for you either. Sooks.

Special G 8:52 am 30 Jul 09

Granny said :

And furthermore, who will hold the donuts? Are they installing donut holders?

Donut holders – you’re a genius Granny – we will have to start a lobby group. Maybe as a job creation scheme they could put a work for the dole person in the back to hold donuts, coffee, steer if needed and shine boots. There are endless possibilities.

Granny 10:56 pm 29 Jul 09

And furthermore, who will hold the donuts? Are they installing donut holders?

Granny 10:55 pm 29 Jul 09

I am quite partial to a Krispy Kreme, but there is nothing in the whole world like a cinnamon donut!

Having the offsider take care of the controls is all well and good, but who will take care of the texting? Riddle me that, eh?!

*lol*

Deckard 9:30 pm 29 Jul 09

TAD said :

For very important checks, the offsider will be required to sit on the driver’s lap and control the accelerator and brake as well.

Another option here is to put the car in cruise control. This will enable both police officers to view the computer screen at the same time.

vg 9:23 pm 29 Jul 09

What have the Police done to you that ails you so dvaey? You are like a broken record.

TAD 8:15 pm 29 Jul 09

I think you’ll find dvaey that it will be ok for the driver to use the computer as long as his offsider controls the steering wheel and indicators for him.

For very important checks, the offsider will be required to sit on the driver’s lap and control the accelerator and brake as well.

fabforty 8:09 pm 29 Jul 09

Dvaey, the idea behind this is for police to be able to run vehicle and person checks out on the streets without a time consuming wait for someone at Comms to do the check for them. They wont be driving around with their computers in their laps checking their Twitter account like some people would if not for the laws you mention.

Most patrols have at least two members. I think logic would suggest that if they need to do a check whilst mobile they may actually prefer to let the non-driver do it.

If it is a one person patrol I would think that they would have enough to do in driving, operating the police radio and avoiding drivers distracted by their dash-mounted DVD to try to use their computers.

dvaey 7:51 pm 29 Jul 09

So, will officers of the law pull over to the side of the road anytime they wish to use their new-fangled computers? Or will they just use that exception to the law, that police dont have to abide by the ‘no mobile devices while moving’ rule?

By law, if a private citizen was to have a computer system installed in the car, it must be wired to only have power when the handbrake is applied, at least, thats what we had to do to pass dickson inspection with a dash-mounted dvd player. No doubt, someone will pass some specific laws to make not only the screen display legal, but the officers interaction with the system while driving, legal also.

Special G 7:34 pm 29 Jul 09

Krispy Kremes taste like crap. Give me a hot cinnamon donut with my coffee any day.

caf 7:22 pm 29 Jul 09

eyeLikeCarrots: That tells you how much a certain salesman knows about crypto.

Wraith 7:03 pm 29 Jul 09

I’ll be impressed when someone does break it then.

Hack into the roaming police car whilst following it without getting noticed, I think there is the first problem to overcome, forget worrying about the encryption issues, which you won’t break.

eyeLikeCarrots 6:47 pm 29 Jul 09

Everyone who used the works:

Quantum
Algorithm
AES
Carrots

In this thread needs to get sex!

Also, who the feck ever used 2DES ?

Addison 6:22 pm 29 Jul 09

caf I think you’ll find the assymetric algorithms used for session key exchange use those same algorithm types.

Rawhide Kid No 2 5:49 pm 29 Jul 09

Hugh Lews said :

Are you a cop? Or just an idiot?

yes, I know, you can be both

No and probably yes.

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