No Parking along the Monaro Highway

cranky 7 June 2013 30

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Govco are really sinking the boot into those nasty Liberal voting Tuggeranongites. They have now banned parking on this length of the Monaro. Initially the signs stated it was no standing, but changed to no parking after about three days.

So no more pulling over to answer the phone, and of course this means the snow traffic driver-reviver stations will be no more.

But WHY? There has never appeared to be any problems on this stretch of road.

Eight of these signs have been installed, at a cost of about $2K per sign. I”m sure Pegussus could have done with that money.


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dungfungus dungfungus 11:53 am 08 Jul 13

Grrrr said :

dungfungus said :

Imagine how easy it would be to stop on the Monaro Highway now and fire an RPG into the back of the Sheppard Street data centre?
..
Anyone read “One Second After”?

I’m imagining it’s 1) pretty hard to get an RPG, and 2) that some No Parking signs will prove much of a detterant.

Also, not sure how a work of Fiction is relevant to these street signs. Particularly one whose key tenant is an attack so unachievable. I think your Tin Foil Hat is too tight.

Next thing you will be saying 9/11 didn’t happen.

Grrrr Grrrr 11:28 am 08 Jul 13

dungfungus said :

Imagine how easy it would be to stop on the Monaro Highway now and fire an RPG into the back of the Sheppard Street data centre?
..
Anyone read “One Second After”?

I’m imagining it’s 1) pretty hard to get an RPG, and 2) that some No Parking signs will prove much of a detterant.

Also, not sure how a work of Fiction is relevant to these street signs. Particularly one whose key tenant is an attack so unachievable. I think your Tin Foil Hat is too tight.

dungfungus dungfungus 9:19 am 08 Jul 13

Holden Caulfield said :

dungfungus said :

Primal said :

Well considering there were at least two trucks out there advertising on Saturday, I’m gonna say these aren’t quite working.

You don’t expect the PS enforcers to work weekends do you?

One would like to think that, but many years ago when I worked in Civic I was doing some overtime on a Sunday afternoon and parked near the building I worked in. It was a dead end street near Hobart Place. I was clearly in a no parking zone, red kerbs and all, so I can’t really complain, aside from the fact that the parking inspector and myself were likely the only two people to have noticed my car that day.

You probably got pinged by a copper from the police station across the road. All the parking inspectors now work out of Macarthur House at Lyneham I believe and they are ‘bussed” to the areas they are assigned to.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 9:12 am 08 Jul 13

dungfungus said :

Primal said :

Well considering there were at least two trucks out there advertising on Saturday, I’m gonna say these aren’t quite working.

You don’t expect the PS enforcers to work weekends do you?

One would like to think that, but many years ago when I worked in Civic I was doing some overtime on a Sunday afternoon and parked near the building I worked in. It was a dead end street near Hobart Place. I was clearly in a no parking zone, red kerbs and all, so I can’t really complain, aside from the fact that the parking inspector and myself were likely the only two people to have noticed my car that day.

cranky cranky 6:14 pm 07 Jul 13

And still no explanation as to WHY these restrictions have been introduced.

Have the Tuggers Liberals been given a TS briefing, to stop them from asking questions?

c_c™ c_c™ 4:11 pm 07 Jul 13

dungfungus said :

Primal said :

Well considering there were at least two trucks out there advertising on Saturday, I’m gonna say these aren’t quite working.

You don’t expect the PS enforcers to work weekends do you?

There’s been a couple of advertising vehicles parked there on weekdays long after these signs were put up just opposite Hume so they obviously have taken no notice. And yesterday a flower seller was set up in what I pointed out in a previous post was a grey area, the truck rest area which is technically insider the No Parking Zone.

All that sign litter for absolutely no gain.

dungfungus dungfungus 1:39 pm 07 Jul 13

Primal said :

Well considering there were at least two trucks out there advertising on Saturday, I’m gonna say these aren’t quite working.

You don’t expect the PS enforcers to work weekends do you?

Primal Primal 1:19 pm 07 Jul 13

Well considering there were at least two trucks out there advertising on Saturday, I’m gonna say these aren’t quite working.

JC JC 7:27 am 11 Jun 13

BimboGeek said :

Why is it still allowed to park on anzac pde? This road is 3 lanes each way with a service road each side. Anyone trying to do the right thing and keep to the left runs the risk of running up the back of some parked moron. The whole mess leads to a desperate merge-unmerge.

Anyone doing any official event at one of the memorials manages to park in the service road. Yesterday driving past there was a bus in the service road and some single solitary noob parked on the big road.

So if they want to put up a no parking sign, this has got to be the spot!

They are hardly morons when it is 100% legal to park there. Though do note what you mean about merging etc, what they should have done when they did the recent intersection works (heading towards the memorial) is swung the left two lanes, noting the right is right turn only to meet with the middle two lanes, then people can park in the left and cars can use the two lanes on the right. Afterall it isn’t like Anzac Parade is 3 lanes due to traffic volume, it is 3 lanes for the ceremonial aspect.

Anna Key Anna Key 9:19 pm 10 Jun 13

dungfungus said :

Imagine how easy it would be to stop on the Monaro Highway now and fire an RPG into the back of the Sheppard Street data centre? Any of you work at Russell Offices while the blast walls were installed behind R1 and R2?
We are really living in a fool’s paradise aren’t we. Anyone read “One Second After”?

I get it now. Someone planning to launch an RPG would have second thoughts once they realise it violates parking laws.

cranky cranky 8:56 pm 10 Jun 13

OK, I can see your arguement.

But why the stretch from the servo south to Rose Cottage? And why can you park accross the road from another data centre in Hume without restriction?

And why are we still not told WHY these parking restrictions are now in place?

dungfungus dungfungus 6:28 pm 10 Jun 13

cranky said :

My question is WHY a 3.5k straight, unremarkable piece of rural highway has suddenly (well, without any notice given) been decreed a no parking zone?

Apparently done with little aforethought, as demonstrated by the revision in the message after only a couple of days. And the enforcement of this zone meaning the Driver Reviver station would be illegal, in both directions.

Well, I tried to tell you all why in comment # 15 but all that ensues is an argument about the subtle differences of “no parking” and “no standing” and the possible closure of the driver reviver stop.
Some people on this blog can’t see the wood for the trees.
I’ll spell it out for you all again with some guidelines concerning physical security from a typical data centre handbook:
The following factors need to be reviewed when making your location decision:
1. Where is the corporate headquarters located?
2. What are the demographics of the area?
3. What modes of transportation are nearby?
4. What climate risks exist (earthquake, flooding, tornado, hurricanes, wildfires)?
5. Has your company received threats or harassment in the past?
6. Does your existing data center meet what is required for current data center security construction practices (proper property line set-back, site hardening, controlled access to site or proper blast mitigation components such as laminated windows, hardened wall construction and so on)? If not, what will it cost to bring your current data center up to speed? Will it be cheaper to factor in these items into the design of the new data center?
7. What type of security staff coverage will be required if the data center is separate from headquarters? Have you factored in the cost of additional security staff if your data center is separate? Is this within your budget?
8. Can existing security at the headquarters building monitor a separate data center with technology (security system, digital video) and then provide remote response if an event occurs?

And so on.
Imagine how easy it would be to stop on the Monaro Highway now and fire an RPG into the back of the Sheppard Street data centre? Any of you work at Russell Offices while the blast walls were installed behind R1 and R2?
We are really living in a fool’s paradise aren’t we. Anyone read “One Second After”?

cranky cranky 5:02 pm 10 Jun 13

My question is WHY a 3.5k straight, unremarkable piece of rural highway has suddenly (well, without any notice given) been decreed a no parking zone?

Apparently done with little aforethought, as demonstrated by the revision in the message after only a couple of days. And the enforcement of this zone meaning the Driver Reviver station would be illegal, in both directions.

m_ratt m_ratt 4:06 pm 10 Jun 13

Ceej1973 said :

Oh but you can. Parking is defined as your car being turned off and no one in the car. Stopping is defined as someone in the car with it in idle momentarily. That would be why they changed it from no- stopping to parking.

bainbridge said :

cranky, this no parking sign does not prohibit you from pulling over to answer your phone. The no standing sign would have made it illegal.

You both might want to check your road rules:
The driver of a vehicle (except an emergency vehicle or police vehicle) must not use a mobile phone that the driver is holding in his or her hand while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked, unless the driver is exempt from this rule under another law of this jurisdiction.

IE – stopping does not allow you to use your phone. Parking does. No stopping/parking on this stretch of road prevents you from using your phone.

bainbridge bainbridge 1:10 pm 10 Jun 13

cranky, this no parking sign does not prohibit you from pulling over to answer your phone. The no standing sign would have made it illegal.

So you are complaining that they made a mistake (making it no standing) then corrected that mistake (made it no parking)?

No parking sign is “better” or “more relaxed” than no standing.

dungfungus dungfungus 9:32 am 10 Jun 13

I think it is about the data centre in Sheppard Street Hume that backs onto the Monaro Highway and the data centres that are planned for the area on the Western side of the Monaro Highway.
The promoters of these cyber centres need a lot of security so the perimeters need to be free from latent threats such as EMR devices in parked vehicles, bombs and bus loads of cyber-hackers posing as Chinese tourists taking photos of the new Mugga Lane landfill.
As a rule, data centres cannot be built under flight paths near airports either.

miz miz 8:49 am 10 Jun 13

Perhaps wanting to prevent the tradies working on the new industrial park from clogging the Hwy shoulders? Or possibly to ensure access for emergency vehicles (noting that there is an emergency facility just up the road)?

However, it would be nice if the public was kept informed.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 11:26 am 08 Jun 13

BimboGeek said :

Why is it still allowed to park on anzac pde? This road is 3 lanes each way with a service road each side. Anyone trying to do the right thing and keep to the left runs the risk of running up the back of some parked moron. The whole mess leads to a desperate merge-unmerge.

Anyone doing any official event at one of the memorials manages to park in the service road. Yesterday driving past there was a bus in the service road and some single solitary noob parked on the big road.

So if they want to put up a no parking sign, this has got to be the spot!

It’s Anzac Parade

If morons can’t drive around someone paying their respects to the war dead, they should hand back their license.

Competent drivers scan hundreds of meters ahead looking for obstructions. If you can’t do that, drive in the middle lane. There’s three of them.

BimboGeek BimboGeek 10:20 am 08 Jun 13

Why is it still allowed to park on anzac pde? This road is 3 lanes each way with a service road each side. Anyone trying to do the right thing and keep to the left runs the risk of running up the back of some parked moron. The whole mess leads to a desperate merge-unmerge.

Anyone doing any official event at one of the memorials manages to park in the service road. Yesterday driving past there was a bus in the service road and some single solitary noob parked on the big road.

So if they want to put up a no parking sign, this has got to be the spot!

markbuzz markbuzz 11:21 pm 07 Jun 13

I wonder if they realised a ‘no stopping’ sign wouldn’t work in a zone with a set of traffic lights and some give way signs in it.

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